JG’s Growth at QB

[1vol8]

Couldn't watch whole game but in my opinion
Mauer had better control of the game granted he threw into traffic but freshman's make mistakes overall I think he did better and that's just a layman's opinion.

You’re not alone if you listen to the commentators. Iirc they disagreed with putting JG back in

 

[1vol8]

He is a better fit as evidenced by the results. You can speculate and make up theoretical strengths all day about BM. We all saw hw doesn't have them now.

So you are pretty much admitting that you will sacrifice UT wins for his development. You aren't a UT fan.

Why wast development time on a probable career backup or transfer? JG is still a better choice than BM. HB may be as well.

Jg isn't perfect. He is currently way better than BM.

I missed responding to this.

Are you suggesting that Maurer hasn’t shown better pocket awareness? Yes or no.

Are you suggesting that he hasn’t shown quicker decisions? Yes or no.

Are you suggesting that he hasn’t shown the speed to out run a defense? Yes or no.

Are you suggesting that he hasn’t shown escape ability? Yes or no.

We won’t get into the accuracy because I know how you are. You think if it doesn’t show on a stat sheet it was an inaccurate pass. But we can get into accuracy on the run. Are you suggesting that he hasn’t shown to be more accurate on the run? Yes or no.

Nothing about what I posted was made up. This kid will not be a career backup and I’ll stick to my original opinion that IF he were to transfer, he’s the one that we will regret the most because no other QB on our roster possesses the skill set of a legitimate pocket passer AS WELL AS a very capable duel threat when needed. Just remember, even great o lines break down at times and there’s another thing called coverage sacks. Those are the times you’ll find yourself wishing that BM wasn’t someone else’s qb.

 

[BeecherVol]

So now BM dragged down the numbers for 2019, that's your new defense of JG's poor play?

You want me to give you a breakdown of JG's playing time VS Maur's playing time in 2019 for you?

You really believe that a RS JR who was anointed starter without a competition, and given the majority of first team reps and development in the spring and summer, should have the same standards and expectations, as a true freshman, who didn't even get trash time prior to starting because that RS JR couldn't play well enough to get off of the field?

Exactly.
If JG is a solid (nevermind good) QB as a RS JR hes not getting yanked 4 games into a season for a TR FR. He rebounded thru the middle portion of the season and then stumbled again down the stretch against Vandy and IU getting pulled again in the bowl game.

It's not a question of whether JG is better than BM or JT. Its whether either of those guys (BM and JT) should even be on the map for playing time. They didnt get there last year because they are really good albeit young QBs. They got it because the 4th year guy in front of them played poorly enough to give them a chance.

UT has to be a lot better at QB than they have been. Whether that's JG, BM, or another FR.
JG is running out of time to do that himself.

 

[overseasorange2]

Exactly.
If JG is a solid (nevermind good) QB as a RS JR hes not getting yanked 4 games into a season for a TR FR. He rebounded thru the middle portion of the season and then stumbled again down the stretch against Vandy and IU getting pulled again in the bowl game.

It's not a question of whether JG is better than BM or JT. Its whether either of those guys (BM and JT) should even be on the map for playing time. They didnt get there last year because they are really good albeit young QBs. They got it because the 4th year guy in front of them played poorly enough to give them a chance.

UT has to be a lot better at QB than they have been. Whether that's JG, BM, or another FR.
JG is running out of time to do that himself.

Sounds like he just possibly got another year..............

 

[BeecherVol]

Sounds like he just possibly got another year..............

Either way. UT needs the QB position to be a lot better if they are going to take the next step. They are ready for him to take the job and run with it (for the rest of his time here) or move on to the future whoever that is and start building on that.

 

[DustyRockSolid]

JG is the best qb. So he is best for the team.

You are a BM fan, not a UT fan. You want what is best for BM damn the team. You would rather go 5-7 with BM than 8-4 with JG if that makes BM better in two or three years. I'm not willing to sacrifice the team for the guy who probably isn't even next in line after JG.



The rest of you I don't have the time or energy to respond to. There is no need to debate the same things you all keep being wrong about.

These are facts that can't be debated. JG was the best qb on the roster last year. JG was a top half of the SEC qb last year. No need to debate people with an agenda and no data to back up their arguments.

JG was the best qb on our roster last year. I agree that maurer probably isnt even next in line once JG is gone.

 

[DustyRockSolid]

I missed responding to this.

Are you suggesting that Maurer hasn’t shown better pocket awareness? Yes or no.

Are you suggesting that he hasn’t shown quicker decisions? Yes or no.

Are you suggesting that he hasn’t shown the speed to out run a defense? Yes or no.

Are you suggesting that he hasn’t shown escape ability? Yes or no.

We won’t get into the accuracy because I know how you are. You think if it doesn’t show on a stat sheet it was an inaccurate pass. But we can get into accuracy on the run. Are you suggesting that he hasn’t shown to be more accurate on the run? Yes or no.

Nothing about what I posted was made up. This kid will not be a career backup and I’ll stick to my original opinion that IF he were to transfer, he’s the one that we will regret the most because no other QB on our roster possesses the skill set of a legitimate pocket passer AS WELL AS a very capable duel threat when needed. Just remember, even great o lines break down at times and there’s another thing called coverage sacks. Those are the times you’ll find yourself wishing that BM wasn’t someone else’s qb.

My dude. We have bailey and next year salter. If maurer transfers, we will be just fine.

 

[1vol8]

My dude. We have bailey and next year salter. If maurer transfers, we will be just fine.

Maybe. IF the recruiting services got it right with them and with a 70% miss rate, I’d be hesitant to put money on it.

 

[BeardedVol]

Maybe. IF the recruiting services got it right with them and with a 70% miss rate, I’d be hesitant to put money on it.

Not to mention that we've yet to see this coaching staff have a freshman QB ready to play, even under the best of circumstances, and with no spring or summer camp, I'd put the chances of Bailey starting at zero for the moment.

 

[1vol8]

Not to mention that we've yet to see this coaching staff have a freshman QB ready to play, even under the best of circumstances, and with no spring or summer camp, I'd put the chances of Bailey starting at zero for the moment.

Most people assume Bailey is better regardless than what we have simply because of rank from a bunch of self proclaimed experts that don’t actually DO evaluations. These guys miss terribly every year, especially with qbs, and yet somehow still have trust from the public. I don’t get it. The most dominant qbs in the league for the last decade have been 3* qbs out of Hs. Pat Mahommes, Aaron Rodgers, Russel Wilson, Lamar Jackson.... I can go on and on. Bailey is good but I have trouble believing he’s above the rest simply from what “those guys” say until proven otherwise.

 

[k-town_king]

I missed responding to this.

Are you suggesting that Maurer hasn’t shown better pocket awareness? Yes or no.

Are you suggesting that he hasn’t shown quicker decisions? Yes or no.

Are you suggesting that he hasn’t shown the speed to out run a defense? Yes or no.

Are you suggesting that he hasn’t shown escape ability? Yes or no.

We won’t get into the accuracy because I know how you are. You think if it doesn’t show on a stat sheet it was an inaccurate pass. But we can get into accuracy on the run. Are you suggesting that he hasn’t shown to be more accurate on the run? Yes or no.

Nothing about what I posted was made up. This kid will not be a career backup and I’ll stick to my original opinion that IF he were to transfer, he’s the one that we will regret the most because no other QB on our roster possesses the skill set of a legitimate pocket passer AS WELL AS a very capable duel threat when needed. Just remember, even great o lines break down at times and there’s another thing called coverage sacks. Those are the times you’ll find yourself wishing that BM wasn’t someone else’s qb.

Better pocket awareness? Are you acting like this is a question?
You must be joking right? Mr sack fumb td or int himself has no pocket awareness at all. Definitely not better than JG.

Quicker right decisions no. Throwing up incomplete passes and ints because you panic isn't making a quick decision.

He had a couple of decent runs. BM is no great scramble threat though. He is a decent athlete. Jg has a better recorded 40 and had a higher SPARQ rating.

Accuracy? Lets not even mention that. lol

Jg is better. You want to play the worse guy to help him develop into MAYBE being better than JG in two or three years. You aren't a UT fan.

 

[PandamoniumReigns]

Better pocket awareness? Are you acting like this is a question?
You must be joking right? Mr sack fumb td or int himself has no pocket awareness at all. Definitely not better than JG.

Quicker right decisions no. Throwing up incomplete passes and ints because you panic isn't making a quick decision.

He had a couple of decent runs. BM is no great scramble threat though. He is a decent athlete. Jg has a better recorded 40 and had a higher SPARQ rating.

Accuracy? Lets not even mention that. lol

Jg is better. You want to play the worse guy to help him develop into MAYBE being better than JG in two or three years. You aren't a UT fan.

Do you even watch games? JG can't figure out what the heck a blindside blitz is. He got blown up and fumbled more than any QB I can remember. Go look at nearly any game for an example.

Stop trolling.

 

[k-town_king]

Do you even watch games? JG can't figure out what the heck a blindside blitz is. He got blown up and fumbled more than any QB I can remember. Go look at nearly any game for an example.

Stop trolling.

Better than Maurer. I believe that is the comparison we are making. Also the only one that matters.

Was he the best on the UT roster? Yes. All that matters.

 

[PandamoniumReigns]

Better than Maurer. I believe that is the comparison we are making. Also the only one that matters.

Was he the best on the UT roster? Yes. All that matters.

Please explain how he is better than Maurer in regards to pocket presence. Please explain without using your own absurdly idiotic and biased opinions.

I'm gonna go make some popcorn, sit back and watch. This should be good. You are either going to disappear again, get Pulaski involved or post some foolishness that will take everyone's already low opinion of your posts and drive it even lower.(if that's possible)

 

[1vol8]

Better pocket awareness? Are you acting like this is a question?
You must be joking right? Mr sack fumb td or int himself has no pocket awareness at all. Definitely not better than JG.

Quicker right decisions no. Throwing up incomplete passes and ints because you panic isn't making a quick decision.

He had a couple of decent runs. BM is no great scramble threat though. He is a decent athlete. Jg has a better recorded 40 and had a higher SPARQ rating.

Accuracy? Lets not even mention that. lol

Jg is better. You want to play the worse guy to help him develop into MAYBE being better than JG in two or three years. You aren't a UT fan.

Awareness:
Hundreds of thousands of fans have been watching JG for the past three years. My biggest complaint of him all that time is that he holds his spot at the back of his drop as if he’s entitled to it. That flaw alone has caused A LOT of those big hits he’s taken over that time. Yes Maurer took the same kind of hit.......ONCE...... but it came from a surprise blitz from a corner off the edge. Earlier in the same game he stepped up on a hitch so the L tackle could regain leverage on the D end and launched a perfect deep ball to Calloway. He did the same thing in the spring game as well. He also doesn’t hesitate and finds running lanes. So yes.... he’s a step ahead regardless of your bias. Which brings me to my next point.

Accuracy:
Once again, as I’ve explained before, accuracy is where the ball finishes in relation to a qbs target. Not the result of said pass. I’m sorry to inform you that stats don’t tell that story. Go back and watch the games. Watch Maurers ints. What you’ll find is his ball finished right where he intended it finish regardless of outcome.

Decision speed:
I bet if you looked up from snap to delivery of the two they are not even in the same galaxy. I’m not doing it. I know what I see.

Speed:
You can literally SEE the difference in speed when they both run. No need for SPARC ratings. JG isn’t in the 4.5 range and it’s not debatable.

And btw..... there are a lot of people that are not fans of Maurer. But I bet you’d struggle to find ANYONE outside of your biased buddies to agree that they EVER seen him panic.


Houdini time!

 

[Vol423]

Not going to lie, this is pretty funny to watch

Unfortunately, JG at QB isn’t. I watched the bowl game against Indiana again last night. It’s hilarious that the JG supporters point to that performance as him leading the team to victory. His performance in that game provides all the evidence anyone should need as to why JG should never see the field again except from the bench. Of course, that’s just another game for JG. He’s horrific in every game.

 

[Chippo]

Unfortunately, JG at QB is in’t. I watched the bowl game against Indiana again last night. It’s hilarious that the JG supporters point to that performance as him leading the team to victory. His performance in that game provides all the evidence anyone should need as to why JG should never see the field again except from the bench. Of course, that’s just another game for JG. He’s horrific in every game.

Saw first 3 quarters, replay yesterday. You
are correct in your observations.

 

[PandamoniumReigns]

Unfortunately, JG at QB is in’t. I watched the bowl game against Indiana again last night. It’s hilarious that the JG supporters point to that performance as him leading the team to victory. His performance in that game provides all the evidence anyone should need as to why JG should never see the field again except from the bench. Of course, that’s just another game for JG. He’s horrific in every game.

I went back and watched the Ga St game since the JG Fan Club states he played well enough to win. It's frustrating. Bad defensive game plan. But JG had a solid pass for TNs first TD. He also had a decent pass to DWA down the sideline, although DWA had to slow down to get it. But overall, he was wildly inconsistent. Poor reads, balls thrown late or high. Red zone sucked. Receivers had to battle for balls. Two terrible Interceptions, although on was called back. But simply terrible. Stevie Wonder could have intercepted those with how badly they were telegraphed and thrown.

And can someone explain why he throws short swing and dump passes at a velocity faster than a meteor entering the atmosphere? That contributed to the turnover on the first pass of the day that led to Ga St first TD.

 

[ainge10heisman]

Shoot I hope we see some real 'growth' or by all means please insert Bailey!

 

[SGMVols]

Shoot I hope we see some real 'growth' or by all means please insert Bailey!

Bailey is almost certainly going to redshirt due to the loss of spring practice. That means he can only appear in 4 games this year tops. And he will likely only appear in garbage time, if he plays. If JG can’t hold the starter role, or gets injured, you’d see Maurer and/or Shrout before you’d see Bailey.

 

[1vol8]

Bailey is almost certainly going to redshirt due to the loss of spring practice. That means he can only appear in 4 games this year tops. And he will likely only appear in garbage time, if he plays. If JG can’t hold the starter role, or gets injured, you’d see Maurer and/or Shrout before you’d see Bailey.

I think that’s the only “logical” expectation. I expect to see the depth chart start the exact way it ended last year.

Qb1- JG
Qb2- Maurer
Qb3- Shrout
Qb4- Bailey/Hill

If JG struggles early I can see Maurer taking over on a short leash. Maybe Bailey at that point has proven in practice to be a better option than Shrout and Hill so the depth chart could easily end

Qb1- Maurer
Qb-2- JG
Qb3- Bailey
Qb4- Shrout/Hill

I just don’t see Pruitt anointing Bailey due to Hs rank like most of the fan base has. Hill has the most experience outside of JG but isn’t on scholarship which leaves Maurer with the most returning experience. And if he’s improved on his decision making and is able to stay healthy, 2021s depth chart may look more different than any of us expect at this point.

 

[Chippo]

JMO but I think JG will be streaky. Up and
down. It would be nice if he could start hot
and give these other guys some playing time.
If we don't get a full schedule and only get
conference games I don't see coach JP able
to keep him in there if he isn't productive.

 

[Chippo]

Just out of curiosity this supposedly is JG'S
last year unless it's like the movie ground hog
day and we have him over and over. How many games would he have to play where he
would be ineligible to play for TN any more??

 

[GAVol]

Just out of curiosity this supposedly is JG'S
last year unless it's like the movie ground hog
day and we have him over and over. How many games would he have to play where he
would be ineligible to play for TN any more??

His Redshirt was already used. This year is it for him.

 

[Chippo]

His Redshirt was already used. This year is it for him.

Thanks for the update GAVol.