Jerry Falwell dies.............

#26
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tvolsfan said:
Now where does it say the gays will be annihilated and heaven will celebrate in the bible?

This coming from someone against gay marriage.
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I don't recall anything in the Bible talking about gays being annihilated and there being celebration in heaven.


I think the problem many have is that they don't know what the Bible really says and they believe ridiculous stuff like the above.
 
#30
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tvolsfan said:
That is what Falwell said, "speaking God's word" as you claimed.
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Don't interject logic. That would be like saying that evolution is established science and "intelligent design" belongs in Sunday school, not the classroom.
 
#32
#32
God's servants through the ages who have stood up and preached His Word have been mocked and ridiculed by people throughout history.

Jerry was a great man of God and is receiving his rewards in heaven as we speak.

The hateful will continue to hate just as they have throughout the course of time.
 
#33
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OrangeUTopia said:
Please show me where Jerry said that gays will be annihilated and heaven will celebrate it.


I'll wait....
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Falwell was on both sides of libel cases. In 1984, he was ordered to pay gay activist Jerry Sloan $5,000 after losing a court battle. During a TV debate in Sacramento, California, Falwell denied calling the gay-oriented Metropolitan Community Churches "brute beasts" and "a vile and Satanic system" that will "one day be utterly annihilated and there will be a celebration in heaven."
When Sloan insisted he had a tape, Falwell promised $5,000 if he could produce it. Sloan did, Falwell refused to pay, and Sloan successfully sued. Falwell appealed, with his attorney charging that the judge in the case was prejudiced. He lost again and was made to pay an additional $2,875 in sanctions and court fees.
 
#34
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Falwell, very simply, was a fundraising machine. Unfortunately, he preyed upon a bunch a scared loons who lacked the ability to reason.
 
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Jasongivm6 said:
Falwell was on both sides of libel cases. In 1984, he was ordered to pay gay activist Jerry Sloan $5,000 after losing a court battle. During a TV debate in Sacramento, California, Falwell denied calling the gay-oriented Metropolitan Community Churches "brute beasts" and "a vile and Satanic system" that will "one day be utterly annihilated and there will be a celebration in heaven."
When Sloan insisted he had a tape, Falwell promised $5,000 if he could produce it. Sloan did, Falwell refused to pay, and Sloan successfully sued. Falwell appealed, with his attorney charging that the judge in the case was prejudiced. He lost again and was made to pay an additional $2,875 in sanctions and court fees.
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Again, why must you people bring forth facts? That's like believing that Katrina was a meteorological event and not the act of a vengeful God.
 
#39
#39
I believe in God. I go to Church. I have no problem with sharing God's word.

Jerry was strange.
 
#41
#41
Hey freak, here in the pub there is a sub forum for politics. It appears, due to the results of this thread, a religion sub forum may be a decent idea.
 
#42
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Jasongivm6 said:
Falwell was on both sides of libel cases. In 1984, he was ordered to pay gay activist Jerry Sloan $5,000 after losing a court battle. During a TV debate in Sacramento, California, Falwell denied calling the gay-oriented Metropolitan Community Churches "brute beasts" and "a vile and Satanic system" that will "one day be utterly annihilated and there will be a celebration in heaven."
When Sloan insisted he had a tape, Falwell promised $5,000 if he could produce it. Sloan did, Falwell refused to pay, and Sloan successfully sued. Falwell appealed, with his attorney charging that the judge in the case was prejudiced. He lost again and was made to pay an additional $2,875 in sanctions and court fees.
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You're hanging your hat on a 20+ year old quote of Jerry saying a "Satanic system" will one day be annihilated and there will be celebrating in heaven?

Guess what? There will be celebrating in heaven when Satan and his system is annihilated.

Jerry never said gays should be annihilated. In fact, he said hundreds of times that homosexuality was a sin and that he hated the sin but loved the sinner.
 
#44
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hatvol96 said:
That's balderdash. We all know Katrina was the retribution for people in New Orleans drinking, having sex, and generally enjoying life.
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Work with me Utopia. There must be 3 or 4 verses you can quote regarding this malicious drinking and sex stuff of which he speaks.
 
#46
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BigPapaVol said:
Work with me Utopia. There must be 3 or 4 verses you can quote regarding this malicious drinking and sex stuff of which he speaks.
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One, who claimed Katrina was a result of drinking and sex?

Two, maybe you can look those verses up yourself...it might do you some good to read the Bible.
 
#47
#47
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Grown men should not be having sex with prostitutes unless they are married to them.
Jerry Falwell, on CNN's Crossfire, May 17, 1997[/FONT]
 
#48
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OrangeUTopia said:
One, who claimed Katrina was a result of drinking and sex?

Two, maybe you can look those verses up yourself...it might do you some good to read the Bible.
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You might not believe in the prescience of Hat, but using your backwards logic regarding spouting Bible verses to support your argument, I'm quoting him to make the assertion true. Maybe that only works for Bible verses.

Look, I'm relatively versed in the Bible and am very comfortable where I stand vis a vis same.
 
#49
#49
And, I know that I'll hear from them for this. But, throwing God out successfully with the help of the federal court system, throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools. The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way -- all of them who have tried to secularize America -- I point the finger in their face and say, "You helped this happen."
-- Rev Jerry Falwell, blaming civil libertarians, feminists, homosexuals, and abortion rights supporters for the terrorist attacks of Tuesday, September 11, 2001, quoted from John F Harris, "God Gave US 'What We Deserve,' Falwell Says," The Washington Post (September 14, 2001)
 
#50
#50
OrangeUTopia said:
Two, maybe you can look those verses up yourself...it might do you some good to read the Bible.
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This statement is simply disrespectful. It is little more than an attempt to belittle any beliefs other than your own. It is neither an effective way to argue, or an effective tool in representing your beliefs in a positive light.
 
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