Jeremy Pruitt inherited a broken culture

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Eddie Vol Halen

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CJP inherited a toxic, broken culture. The Lead Trumpet recruited and built a team ready to dominate the Sun Belt. When he ran into the SEC without Dobbs, Barnett, and Kamara it was back to Band Camp. The team literally had all the fun coached out of them and they were not mentally prepared or ready for SEC football.

I saw the orange shoots of recovery through the South Carolina game with CJP. If we manage to hold on in that game, I think things might have been different yesterday. I think KY had their worst game of football against us (much like we lay an egg every year against Florida) and the team actually had some fun playing that day. When we ran into teams ready to hunker down late in the season though, it's clear half the team had mailed it in. Now, the whispers of all the friction and cultural malaise is being reported. All the good work up to the second half of the South Carolina game now has big question marks and the coaching staff has to own that.

CJP is not an elite coach yet but he has the potential. I've seen good things this year. It's National Signing Day that's an unknown and where he has to prove it. CJP has to do what it takes to fix the culture now. Maybe missing the bowl game is the best thing for the team in the long term IF Pruitt can fix the culture. I don't know if he needs to revamp his staff yet but I hope he has had a plan in the works. I can live with a Signing Day outside the Top 10 this year IF he's bringing SEC calibre football players and not just athletes who want the SEC life but want to play in Sun Belt games. The one thing about great coaches, they fix things and it shows in Year 2.

Year 2 starts today.
 
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This staff was sold as a bunch of super recruiters and we've had it pounded into us all season that they need the kind of talent that they had at their former employers in order to execute their system. If they can't deliver a top class 10 this cycle, we will hear the same whiny excuses about them not having the horses three years from now. These jackwagons need to show us that they're more than clipboard toters for great coaches. Maybe start with getting rid of the stupid barber's smocks and put on a grown man's shirt with a collar.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
This staff was sold as a bunch of super recruiters and we've had it pounded into us all season that they need the kind of talent that they had at their former employers in order to execute their system. If they can't deliver a top class 10 this cycle, we will hear the same whiny excuses about them not having the horses three years from now. These jackwagons need to show us that they're more than clipboard toters for great coaches. Maybe start with getting rid of the stupid barber's smocks and put on a grown man's shirt with a collar.
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Man, we have been through 3 coaches (not counting CJP) all have said the exact same thing. Look UT isn't an elite program and hasn't been for some time. Everybody can't be wrong. UT has lived with signing project players and the blue-chip players we do sign seem to never develop past high school. We will be in the bottom half of the SEC next year as well so either come to peace with that or become a passive fan. I don't say this to be negative I say this because I'm sure like me there are better things you can worry about because this situation won't fix itself anytime soon.
 
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UTK said:
And he’s had all year to fix it. Year 2 needs drastic progress. At least 8 wins, no blowout losses period. And beat Vandy by 50. Those are my checklists for year 2.
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I see some fans like to punish themselves. You might as well just be upset bro because that's a pipe dream. This team will be FreshmanU next year. 6-6 buddy.
 
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All of you want it now people have a rude wake up call. I said 4 years and that leaves us with 3 more years. I'm willing to wait. What concerns is that you have idiots that go off on how a man is dressed on the side line. This thinking will keep us replacing and rebuilding forever.
 
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Eddie Vol Halen said:
CJP inherited a toxic, broken culture. The Lead Trumpet recruited and built a team ready to dominate the Sun Belt. When he ran into the SEC without Dobbs, Barnett, and Kamara it was back to Band Camp. The team literally had all the fun coached out of them and they were not mentally prepared or ready for SEC football.

I saw the orange shoots of recovery through the South Carolina game with CJP. If we manage to hold on in that game, I think things might have been different yesterday. I think KY had their worst game of football against us (much like we lay an egg every year against Florida) and the team actually had some fun playing that day. When we ran into teams ready to hunker down late in the season though, it's clear half the team had mailed it in. Now, the whispers of all the friction and cultural malaise is being reported. All the good work up to the second half of the South Carolina game now has big question marks and the coaching staff has to own that.

CJP is not an elite coach yet but he has the potential. I've seen good things this year. It's National Signing Day that's an unknown and where he has to prove it. CJP has to do what it takes to fix the culture now. Maybe missing the bowl game is the best thing for the team in the long term IF Pruitt can fix the culture. I don't know if he needs to revamp his staff yet but I hope he has had a plan in the works. I can live with a Signing Day outside the Top 10 this year IF he's bringing SEC calibre football players and not just athletes who want the SEC life but want to play in Sun Belt games. The one thing about great coaches, they fix things and it shows in Year 2.

Year 2 starts today.
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I think this is the single biggest challenge. It’s not x/o system or recruiting rankings. We have drifted so far where 8-4 is a great season. We still haven’t beaten a top 10 team since 2006, and haven’t been ranked in the top 10 since 2001. In short, we are irrelevant.

A major reason is that our leadership thought we were immune to rock bottom. Pre-Dooley it had been about 100 years since back to back losing seasons. Now we’ve had streaks of 4 years, and now a 2 year stretch where we are looking up at entire SEC. The traditions we love -including the support of the Vol Nation - are meaningless. The tradition of WINNING is the only one that will get us out of this mess. And right now we have a program and players used to losing. This game reminded me of the 2011 game at Kentucky, except Vandy was a whole lot better. We have no team leaders holding each other accountable. Pruitt has to be the heavy, and until he upgrades the talent, guys that loaf will still play. Hopefully yesterday is the end of it.

Since I mentioned UK and Vandy, neither of them will win a championship. But they’ve at least changed the culture where they no longer expect to lose. Vandy was much more competitive vs Fla, vs Mizz, and vs major non conference (ND). They clowned around at the end of the games last year and yesteday because they fully expect to kick our ass next year. Given our cultural problem, we have to give Pruitt long enough to flush guys out that don’t practice, lift, or study film well enough to win at this level.
 
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At the beginning of this season, I was hoping Pruitt could fix this mess in 2 -3 years. After watching the game yesterday where we had almost an entire team play with no heart ,I think it will take at least until the current freshman class is Seniors before this culture is changed. Pruitt has his work cut out for him that's for sure. He need some of recruit more leaders like Jeremy Banks who have the moxy to get in teammates faces like Al Wilson did. A team without leaders will not succeed.
 
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UTK said:
And he’s had all year to fix it. Year 2 needs drastic progress. At least 8 wins, no blowout losses period. And beat Vandy by 50. Those are my checklists for year 2.
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Then you might as well just trash your list now. 8 wins? Blow Vandy out by 50? I see you are just setting yourself up for major disappointment.
 
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I could see next year going about the way this one did. This is another slow rebuild again. Not likely that he signs a top 5 class so slow is what it will be . Maybe 4 years from now we can think back on these days.... on second thought why think back at all, scratch that.
 
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37L1 said:
Need to revamp both defensive and offensive lines. The problems all start there.

No protection for the QB, no holes for the running backs and no pressure on the opposition QB. All were the major sources of this team's failures.
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Agree, they were big liabilities this season. CJP and staff were largely left holding that bag.
 
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Eddie Vol Halen said:
CJP inherited a toxic, broken culture. The Lead Trumpet recruited and built a team ready to dominate the Sun Belt. When he ran into the SEC without Dobbs, Barnett, and Kamara it was back to Band Camp. The team literally had all the fun coached out of them and they were not mentally prepared or ready for SEC football.

I saw the orange shoots of recovery through the South Carolina game with CJP. If we manage to hold on in that game, I think things might have been different yesterday. I think KY had their worst game of football against us (much like we lay an egg every year against Florida) and the team actually had some fun playing that day. When we ran into teams ready to hunker down late in the season though, it's clear half the team had mailed it in. Now, the whispers of all the friction and cultural malaise is being reported. All the good work up to the second half of the South Carolina game now has big question marks and the coaching staff has to own that.

CJP is not an elite coach yet but he has the potential. I've seen good things this year. It's National Signing Day that's an unknown and where he has to prove it. CJP has to do what it takes to fix the culture now. Maybe missing the bowl game is the best thing for the team in the long term IF Pruitt can fix the culture. I don't know if he needs to revamp his staff yet but I hope he has had a plan in the works. I can live with a Signing Day outside the Top 10 this year IF he's bringing SEC calibre football players and not just athletes who want the SEC life but want to play in Sun Belt games. The one thing about great coaches, they fix things and it shows in Year 2.

Year 2 starts today.
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Please stop
 
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It's clear after this game that there were some "quitters" on this team. Not all of them. Not even the majority, but enough of them to sabotage the efforts of the rest of the team. You can't have 60% of the team giving their all, while 30% - 40% don't care and expect to win.

It's Year 1. We won't know much about this coaching staff till the end of next season and Year 3. All we really know is that the players that don't care need to be released.
 
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VOLnMiami said:
Dan Mullen and Tom Herman both inherited broken programs and yet they are both ranked in the top 20 in the 1st two years...Mullen in his first year and they had the same record as us last year...So I'm not buying it
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Exactly.
 
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Eddie Vol Halen said:
CJP inherited a toxic, broken culture. The Lead Trumpet recruited and built a team ready to dominate the Sun Belt. When he ran into the SEC without Dobbs, Barnett, and Kamara it was back to Band Camp. The team literally had all the fun coached out of them and they were not mentally prepared or ready for SEC football.

I saw the orange shoots of recovery through the South Carolina game with CJP. If we manage to hold on in that game, I think things might have been different yesterday. I think KY had their worst game of football against us (much like we lay an egg every year against Florida) and the team actually had some fun playing that day. When we ran into teams ready to hunker down late in the season though, it's clear half the team had mailed it in. Now, the whispers of all the friction and cultural malaise is being reported. All the good work up to the second half of the South Carolina game now has big question marks and the coaching staff has to own that.

CJP is not an elite coach yet but he has the potential. I've seen good things this year. It's National Signing Day that's an unknown and where he has to prove it. CJP has to do what it takes to fix the culture now. Maybe missing the bowl game is the best thing for the team in the long term IF Pruitt can fix the culture. I don't know if he needs to revamp his staff yet but I hope he has had a plan in the works. I can live with a Signing Day outside the Top 10 this year IF he's bringing SEC calibre football players and not just athletes who want the SEC life but want to play in Sun Belt games. The one thing about great coaches, they fix things and it shows in Year 2.

Year 2 starts today.
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This is on point, Eddie. Also one more year removed from old ways’ pied pipers will allow for exponential improvement
 
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A different coach probably would have gotten more out of this roster,which probably would've made the difference against SC and VU and made the blowouts bit more respectable. The lack of effort is directly tied to the coaching. CJP is not going to sign a class full of elite prospects after this shizshow of a season. He will not win without elite talent. Only question now is whether Fulmer falls on the sword in a couple of years to try and buy CJP one more season, or does Fulmer get another chance to hire a hfc?
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
A different coach probably would have gotten more out of this roster,which probably would've made the difference against SC and VU and made the blowouts bit more respectable. The lack of effort is directly tied to the coaching. CJP is not going to sign a class full of elite prospects after this shizshow of a season. He will not win without elite talent. Only question now is whether Fulmer falls on the sword in a couple of years to try and buy CJP one more season, or does Fulmer get another chance to hire a hfc?
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Haslam will probably fire Phil as soon as he can and bring in Schiano like he wanted. They will have to rent out Neyland to concerts and other events to make up for the stadium being half empty every game..
 
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Cartervol said:
Haslam will probably fire Phil as soon as he can and bring in Schiano like he wanted. They will have to rent out Neyland to concerts and other events to make up for the stadium being half empty every game..
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Fulmer better drop the season tix prices next season or I have a feeling they are going to set an all-time low for season ticket sales in 2019. $65/ ticket forETSU and Charlotte and $135/ticket for FL and Bama games makes me feel like I was robbed
 
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Haslam will probably fire Phil as soon as he can and bring in Schiano like he wanted. They will have to rent out Neyland to concerts and other events to make up for the stadium being half empty every game..
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I'm thinking a llama polo Winter league. Give those pack animals at Mt. LeConte something to do besides loaf through the cold weather months.
 
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