Jefferey Epstein found dead in jail cell

[Peradox1K]

I think Epstein was killed because he was playing hard ball. Attempting to hold dirt over the heads of the people he worked with/for, likely including intelligence agencies.

I think Maxwell agreed to play ball. Now what's left is mitigating fallout. It will be interesting to see what is released and about who. Remember this is multinational, even though we know people like Prince Andrew are involved releasing info is damaging to Britain, and our possible involvement further complicates things. this is a huge mess, and why the info hasn't been released.

This or Epstein being Mossad I could see being true if it's all declassified.

 

[Vol8188]

Boebert? Massey?

And the problem now is tons of MAGAs have committed to this. Trump has said let it all out.

If that stalls and is traced to Bondi, per Trump's direction to do a criminal invest of others, I don't see people looking the other way.

Massey has been a major critic of involvement in Israel.

Outside of memes mocking her, I don’t keep up with Boebert. Nor should anyone else.

 

[whodeycin85]

The question is, how far would he go to block it if he is in fact in there? Given the frailty of his ego it sure seems like he'd stop at basically nothing.

You really have nothing do you..I feel sorry for people like you who make up scenarios to justify you believes while ignoring actual factual data..

 

[KB5252]

This or Epstein being Mossad I could see being true if it's all declassified.

This is covered in a later post, I think he was an asset fir the US, but as many do are intertwined and working with/for multiple governments and agencies.

 

[KB5252]

The question is, how far would he go to block it if he is in fact in there? Given the frailty of his ego it sure seems like he'd stop at basically nothing.

Now turn that argument completely around, if he is in there, with any real damning evidence, why hasn't it been leaked or released by the left. The party that went so far as to manufacture evidence would sit on real evidence of wrongdoing?

It defies logic! Your thoughts on this are completely illogical. Trump derangement syndrome gets thrown around like a cheap insult but honestly in cases like this I have a hard time coming up with a better definition.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Now turn that argument completely around, if he is in there, with any real damning evidence, why hasn't it been leaked or released by the left. The party that went so far as to manufacture evidence would sit on real evidence of wrongdoing?

It defies logic! Your thoughts on this are completely illogical. Trump derangement syndrome gets thrown around like a cheap insult but honestly in cases like this I have a hard time coming up with a better definition.

Maxwell's deposition is actually pretty tame, meaning she actually doesn't throw anyone really under the bus or have any real dirt or what she thinks is dirt. She mentions Trump in a positive way, but she was also friends with the Clintons up till the end. She was involved in the whole Clinton Global Initiative, she also speaks about Epstein giving money to them.

She appears to be standing her ground whether its the truth or not.

 

[Sudden Impact]

You really have nothing do you..I feel sorry for people like you who make up scenarios to justify you believes while ignoring actual factual data..

Pot calling Kettle Black. Which could be racism. JK

 

[CobbVol]

You really have nothing do you..I feel sorry for people like you who make up scenarios to justify you believes while ignoring actual factual data..

All the straw in fields across our country are gone and used up after his postings in this thread regarding Trump.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Pot calling Kettle Black. Which could be racism. JK

Find some new material bc that's old & ineffective.
You're the first in here to say racism.

 

[Sandman 423]

Waste of time and money, imo. How about we fix the ACA or make better immigration laws.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Waste of time and money, imo. How about we fix the ACA or make better immigration laws.

Yeah, how about it? Waste of time & money doing that too.

 

[Sudden Impact]

Get over it, invitations and subpoena threats are just for show.
Straight up gamesmanship.
One could say the 2 Impeachments fall into the same category.
Gamesmanship and tail wagging the dog.
Nothing does better than riling up the crowd than a little bit of Psyops and misdirection.
Dems do it but Reps do it better.
Sad part is that you think it is newsworthy and the reality is that it is normal day to day ops.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[Sudden Impact]

Everybody knows exactly what Bill Clinton was. He was a hound dog, nothing new here.
Quite telling when he needed the definition of "sex"

 

[Sin City Vol]

In an e-mail, Epstein said he was Trump's best friend for ten years.

The mental gymnastics we’re currently witnessing from the MAGA pedo party is ridiculous

 

[LSU-SIU]

Waste of time and money, imo. How about we fix the ACA or make better immigration laws.

There really isn't much to fix with either one of those. Immigration law is basically fine, enforcement was generally the problem.

 

[FLVOL_79]

If adult women are pimping themselves out, I wouldn't classify that as a "victim". If there were under-aged girls involved, that is a different matter. I would suggest reading the Maxwell deposition. (I am not saying Maxwell is 100% being honest but she is painting a different picture of the events in the 90s and early 00s at least)

Technically all women pimp themselves out..

 

[FLVOL_79]

In an e-mail, Epstein said he was Trump's best friend for ten years.

Reminds of a queen song..

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

The mental gymnastics we’re currently witnessing from the MAGA pedo party is ridiculous

 

[whodeycin85]

Pot calling Kettle Black. Which could be racism. JK

What data am I ignoring???

 

[Sandman 423]

There really isn't much to fix with either one of those. Immigration law is basically fine, enforcement was generally the problem.

The number of green cards we allow hasn't changed since 1990. May want to revisit that #.

 

[volfan102455]

There are real issues within our country that needs to be the focus. This is NOT one of them. SMH.

 

[LouderVol]

If adult women are pimping themselves out, I wouldn't classify that as a "victim". If there were under-aged girls involved, that is a different matter. I would suggest reading the Maxwell deposition. (I am not saying Maxwell is 100% being honest but she is painting a different picture of the events in the 90s and early 00s at least)

I have read parts of it, and at best for her, I think she is telling partial truths. I don't doubt that there were actual 18+ whores involved with Epstein and Maxwell at various points. which yes, that would absolve those two of any guilty, on the assumption that that is all that were there.

but that's a real big, and bad, assumption imo. we know some of the victims started out as children. regardless of what Maxwell claims.

imo the whores (I am designating these as any 18+ women who actually chose to be there and participate knowingly and willingly) were cover/plausible deniability. also expands the demographics willing to participate with Epstein. I am willing to bet those two used the mix to their advantage in honey trapping some of the people there. give them a couple legal women to get their guard down, then oops that 4th one was 16, now you cant turn on us without outing yourself as a pedo.

From Virginia's testimony we know they used a similar strategy for recruiting the underage girls. get them involved on something legal, then keep drip feeding their exposure to the illegal stuff where its hard for them to tell the difference, and then they are stuck in a bad situation. and then using some of the victims to recruit new ones

 

[LouderVol]

The number of green cards we allow hasn't changed since 1990. May want to revisit that #.

fill the open judge seats dealing with immigration, and remove any other government choke points. provided the information is there it shouldn't take 6+ years to get thru the process.