Jefferey Epstein found dead in jail cell

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MOOOOONEY said:
Release the files.

Let the chips fall.

If you’re on the list.

You can take the penis in jail with a smile.
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Okay, so, the flip side of this is - if everything we suspect is somewhat true, say foreign and domestic bribery or entrapment at scale is true. Well, not only are people going to jail, they'll probably be executed in other jurisdictions... furthermore, you can probably put a wrap on the West. (again, kind of talking in theory here)

I agree, it should be released, but we are also making something look easy as well.
 
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GroverCleveland said:
Shocked! Shocked I say! To find out some disparaging news does include the full context is shocking to say the least.

Well. They have him now.
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Look at you guys trying so hard to play devil's advocate for a guy who is fighting tooth and nail politically to suppress the truth. FFS
 
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lawgator1 said:
Yup, there is one way, and one way only, to put this to rest.

Yet, Team Trump continues to resist that one path to settle it once and for all.
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apparently the Dems feel the same way.

They have 23,000 pages. and released 3 of them, after editing the emails themselves.
 
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KB5252 said:
For the record I really don't care what happens to Trump, if he did abuse women or even worse kids, or him under the jail I don't care.

But I don't think there's anything of substance here, mainly because the info we have has been in our possession for multiple administrations. I simply can't envision a scenario where an administration(s) that had this evidence would bypass damning low hanging fruit like that.

It makes zero sense. If there's anything of substance I'd be very surprised.
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Also in the "makes zero sense" category :

In the immediate aftermath of her interview with DOJ officials, Ghislaine Maxwell was transferred to a minimum security "camp," where she is being provided numerous perks with posh accommodations. Ghislaine Maxwell is a convicted sex trafficker. She facilitated the molestation of underage girls.

This is suspicious .... It sure seems like the Trump Administration thinks Ghislaine Maxwell has potentially damaging information that they don't want shared with Democrats or with the media. I suspect that Ghislaine Maxwell will receive a full pardon in the early morning hours of January 20, 2029.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Also in the "makes zero sense" category :

In the immediate aftermath of her interview with DOJ officials, Ghislaine Maxwell was transferred to a minimum security "camp," where she is being provided numerous perks with posh accommodations. Ghislaine Maxwell is a convicted sex trafficker. She facilitated the molestation of underage girls.

This is suspicious .... It sure seems like the Trump Administration thinks Ghislaine Maxwell has potentially damaging information that they don't want shared to Democrats or with the media. I suspect that Ghislaine Maxwell will receive a full pardon in the early morning hours of January 20, 2029.
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Damaging to "whom" would be the most relevant question.

I don't know what you mean by "democrats", this has been going on a lot longer than Trump has been in the political arena. This is like saying the "democrats" didn't know what the Bush/CIA were doing in central America.... most of the key dems knew buddy.

Its funny how that just vanished like a fart in the wind.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Okay, so, the flip side of this is - if everything we suspect is somewhat true, say foreign and domestic bribery or entrapment at scale is true. Well, not only are people going to jail, they'll probably be executed in other jurisdictions... furthermore, you can probably put a wrap on the West. (again, kind of talking in theory here)

I agree, it should be released, but we are also making something look easy as well.
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Sounds like you’re on some tin foil pizzagate conspiracy.

It could be that they are some sick perverted people in this world that need to face justice.

The files need to be released today.
 
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MOOOOONEY said:
Sounds like you’re on some tin foil pizzagate conspiracy.

It could be that they are some sick perverted people in this world that need to face justice.

The files need to be released today.
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Okay, so you think this was just a few guys and gals that got a few underage girls for Epstein/Trump?

If that was the case, logically speaking if that were the case - all of this would have been released years ago. What other theory you got?

What exactly I am saying that is so outlandish in the context of what has happened here? How exactly did Epstein get his fairly good sized wealth?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Also in the "makes zero sense" category :

In the immediate aftermath of her interview with DOJ officials, Ghislaine Maxwell was transferred to a minimum security "camp," where she is being provided numerous perks with posh accommodations. Ghislaine Maxwell is a convicted sex trafficker. She facilitated the molestation of underage girls.

This is suspicious .... It sure seems like the Trump Administration thinks Ghislaine Maxwell has potentially damaging information that they don't want shared with Democrats or with the media. I suspect that Ghislaine Maxwell will receive a full pardon in the early morning hours of January 20, 2029.
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Possible

But you are just assuming this is happening to her for Trump's benefit. When the insurance policies have been in effect long before Trump was in office, I think there are numerous powerful and rich people involved with videos of their exploits.

I just don't see how trump is one since the Democrats seem to have been rolling to do anything they could to keep Trump from winning office, but they avoid the lowest hanging fruit?

That doesn't make sense.

Here's the another thing that doesn't make sense (one of many) the Democrats keep on pushing for Trump to release it. It's obvious the Dems have access to it......... If they care about true transparency and owing truth to people they shouldn't wait for trump. Release it in full, not some redacted pieces and portions. Give to us or you're just playing the same game.

I'm pretty sure I know the reason why. I just didn't think it's because there is any meaningful dirt on Trump
 
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KB5252 said:
Possible

But you are just assuming this is happening to her for Trump's benefit. When the insurance policies have been in effect long before Trump was in office, I think there are numerous powerful and rich people involved with videos of their exploits.

I just don't see how trump is one since the Democrats seem to have been rolling to do anything they could to keep Trump from winning office, but they avoid the lowest hanging fruit?

That doesn't make sense.

Here's the another thing that doesn't make sense (one of many) the Democrats keep on pushing for Trump to release it. It's obvious the Dems have access to it......... If they care about true transparency and owing truth to people they shouldn't wait for trump. Release it in full, not some redacted pieces and portions. Give to us or you're just playing the same game.

I'm pretty sure I know the reason why. I just didn't think it's because there is any meaningful dirt on Trump
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Trump could in theory be involved, logically speaking the only way its not released is if releasing all the information damages others as well.

The government has had information on all this for decades.
 
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MOOOOONEY said:
Sounds like you’re on some tin foil pizzagate conspiracy.

It could be that they are some sick perverted people in this world that need to face justice.

The files need to be released today.
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Except it's not tin foil, we know there was a multinational group that conspired to exploit women and even underage girls for sexual pleasure. By some of the most powerful and wealthy people in the world.

I'm not sure we'd like what happens if the files are released, but I agree this has to come to light. There are some rabbit holes so around this story. And a few of them are bound to lead places that powerful people would want to avoid.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Trump could in theory be involved, logically speaking the only way its not released is if releasing all the information damages others as well.

The government has had information on all this for decades.
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I agree, I think Trump had knowledge of what was going on at the very least. What in getting at is Trump isn't even the biggest name or worst offender on the docket. We're all but certain Clinton, we know Prince Andrew. But the rabbit hole apparently goes much deeper.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Look at you guys trying so hard to play devil's advocate for a guy who is fighting tooth and nail politically to suppress the truth. FFS
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One. Was it the full context? If so, it may be the first time anything negative from you guys was truthful

Two. I said you guys have him this time. What is it you're wanting?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Also in the "makes zero sense" category :

In the immediate aftermath of her interview with DOJ officials, Ghislaine Maxwell was transferred to a minimum security "camp," where she is being provided numerous perks with posh accommodations. Ghislaine Maxwell is a convicted sex trafficker. She facilitated the molestation of underage girls.

This is suspicious .... It sure seems like the Trump Administration thinks Ghislaine Maxwell has potentially damaging information that they don't want shared with Democrats or with the media. I suspect that Ghislaine Maxwell will receive a full pardon in the early morning hours of January 20, 2029.
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All of this stinks to high heaven.

Folks are right to bash Biden for not releasing it.

But also, obviously, Trump is looking guilty as sin.

I mean such a stretch that he'd be a child molester. GRAB THEM BY THE PU... RIGHT DONALD?
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Okay, so you think this was just a few guys and gals that got a few underage girls for Epstein/Trump?

If that was the case, logically speaking if that were the case - all of this would have been released years ago. What other theory you got?

What exactly I am saying that is so outlandish in the context of what has happened here? How exactly did Epstein get his fairly good sized wealth?
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1. I’ve never claimed Trump was on the list. If he is and had sex with children then his azz should be in prison.

2. I’ve always stated that the files will never be released due to toooooo many rich and powerful individuals on it.

3. It’s that you’re implying some conspiracy that Epstein was an international spy. A double not agent. I’m assuming that Epstein got his riches by sex trafficking young girls.
 
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MOOOOONEY said:
1. I’ve never claimed Trump was on the list. If he is and had sex with children then his azz should be in prison.

2. I’ve always stated that the files will never be released due to toooooo many rich and powerful individuals on it.

3. It’s that you’re implying some conspiracy that Epstein was international spy. A double not agent. I’m assuming that Epstein got his riches by sex trafficking young girls.
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Okay, I would say we generally agree on most things, which is why I was confused about the "conspiracy" part of your post to me.

Most likely this wasn't a couple of people getting to bang teens, the U.S. government officials have already said there are 200+ victims. All the information we have generally moves us in one direction -> a State or State(s) operation.
 
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