Jefferey Epstein found dead in jail cell

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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Use the money we're giving to Israel every year to provide them free housing. There problem solved.

For some reason we enjoy giving Israel free hand out but not our own people.
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you missed the by choice part.

You can force them to live there, i guess. but the place would be condemned within a year
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Use the money we're giving to Israel every year to provide them free housing. There problem solved.

For some reason we enjoy giving Israel free hand out but not our own people.
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I appreciate the sentiment. But there will still be homeless even if there is a provided residence for everyone in America.

Some people are nomads or vagabonds by nature. Some are mentally / emotionally unhealthy and drift in and out of health based on their med compliance.
 
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hog88 said:
It wouldn't matter what the "average American" thinks or would welcome. It would only matter what the average Minnesotan or Dearborn resident welomes/thinks.

Return to local rule. As long as what MN or Dearborn is doing doesn't violate the BoRs the average American not living in either shouldn't GAF.
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I love how sanctimonious people get when you challenge the special exceptions they give Israel that no other nation gets. Maybe you live in a fantasy world but here in the real world I see the likes of Matt Walsh and other conservative commentators rail every other day against immigrant groups accruing political power in certain cities. A recent favorite of his has been the mayoral race in Minnesota featuring a guy of Somalian descent:



Now you might be the exception that enjoys foreigners turning America into a vessel state to advance their own nation's interests. But most Americans don't like that for good reason. We want America to work for Americans first and foremost. Not the sentimental foreign interests of people with dual loyalty to other countries.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I love how sanctimonious people get when you challenge the special exceptions they give Israel that no other nation gets. Maybe you live in a fantasy world but here in the real world I see the likes of Matt Walsh and other conservative commentators rail every other day against immigrant groups accruing political power in certain cities. A recent favorite of his has been the mayoral race in Minnesota featuring a guy of Somalian descent:



Now you might be the exception that enjoys foreigners turning America into a vessel state to advance their own nation's interests. But most Americans don't like that for good reason. We want America to work for Americans first and foremost. Not the sentimental foreign interests of people with dual loyalty to other countries.
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A lot of people call or consider themselves "conservative" while being far from it. I'm talking about the label as it's used now.

I want the US government to go back to the size and scope that the founders intended. If MN or MI want to become immigrant havens then so be it, no skin off my azz.
 
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U.S. District Judge Richard Berman ruled that there is “clear precedent and sound purpose” for keeping grand jury records under seal, saying the government failed to show the Epstein papers demonstrate any “special circumstance” justifying their release.

He also noted that the government is already in possession of vast details about the case.

“The information contained in the Epstein grand jury transcripts pales in comparison to the Epstein investigation information and materials in the hands of the Department of Justice,” the judge wrote in a 14-page ruling.

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MontyPython said:
U.S. District Judge Richard Berman ruled that there is “clear precedent and sound purpose” for keeping grand jury records under seal, saying the government failed to show the Epstein papers demonstrate any “special circumstance” justifying their release.

He also noted that the government is already in possession of vast details about the case.

“The information contained in the Epstein grand jury transcripts pales in comparison to the Epstein investigation information and materials in the hands of the Department of Justice,” the judge wrote in a 14-page ruling.

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Not only that but he correctly pointed out the attempted fraud going on here. In the name of transparency the Bondi DOJ seeks release of 70 pages of over 100,000 documents when it could simply release the entirety.

Why doesn't it? There is only one viable answer. Trump is in there and is blocking it. Shame on Bondi for playing a role in this.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Not only that but he correctly pointed out the attempted fraud going on here. In the name of transparency the Bondi DOJ seeks release of 70 pages of over 100,000 documents when it could simply release the entirety.

Why doesn't it? There is only one viable answer. Trump is in there and is blocking it. Shame on Bondi for playing a role in this.
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You are an attorney.

You know better than this.
 
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Judge Richard Berman said the Justice Department did not overcome long-standing precedent to keep grand jury materials sealed and noted that the information contained in the sealed materials is small relative to the entire investigation file already in DOJ’s hands.

“The information contained in the Epstein grand jury transcripts pales in comparison to the Epstein investigation information and materials in the hand of the Department of Justice,” the judge wrote.
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MontyPython said:
What's another viable answer other than Trump is blocking the release of the files?
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He's blocking them.

Its poor logic to think there is anything overly incriminating in them. Otherwise Biden and the Dems would have released them.

So why is Trump blocking it? His sensitive ass ego. I'm sure there is something that discusses Trump and Epsteins relationship. Maybe even some stuff on the anonymous person who accused him of rape that later dropped her suit. But if it were big enough to sway large opinions Biden is releasing that news.
 
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volfanhill said:
He's blocking them.

Its poor logic to think there is anything overly incriminating in them. Otherwise Biden and the Dems would have released them.

So why is Trump blocking it? His sensitive ass ego. I'm sure there is something that discusses Trump and Epsteins relationship. Maybe even some stuff on the anonymous person who accused him of rape that later dropped here suit. But if it were big enough to sway large opinions Biden is releasing that news.
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All of it stinks to high heaven.
 
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MontyPython said:
What's another viable answer other than Trump is blocking the release of the files?
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There are plenty of other viable answers than that Trump is blocking the release of the files only because he is in them, as was asserted.
 
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MontyPython said:
What's another viable answer other than Trump is blocking the release of the files?
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What legals steps has Trump taken to block the release??? He has committed to releasing it..just not on your timeframe..the only one legally blocking info now are Dems judges who could and have discretion per the law but refuse and are playing politics. As long as Trump releases them before his term he has fulfilled his promise.
 
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