Jefferey Epstein found dead in jail cell

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volfanhill said:
You: Pee tapes hookers and Russia has him

Not true


Now you: He was a pedo


Only new evidence a birthday card. Your a clown
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The other evidence is Trump's panicked reaction to demands it be released. The changing stories. The lies about their friendship. The contradictory statements. The efforts to shield the materials that include him. The hesitation. The orders to release selected parts. The qualifiers on what to release. The name calling at his own supporters who want it released. The effort to interfere with Congressional demands to release it....

And on and on.

I cannot recall anyone ever acting so guilty.
 
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The GOP and Trump continue to try to dance on the head of a pin. When will they learn ? The ONLY acceptable outcome is release of EVERYTHING.

Not piecemeal, not in dribs or drabs, not with qualifiers. If Trump is in there and its bad, if Clinton is in there and its bad, the chips will fall where they may.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Do you think Trump was involved? And by that I mean did he participate? Did he provide Epstein new girls at the 1992 Calendar Girls party where Epstein and Trump were the ONLY men present with all the teenage models??? The party Trump himself set up ?

That may turn out to be the link. That party. Very, very suspicious.
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No I don't believe Trump participated. I believe he knew much like we know..something is going on, but there isn't solid proof till there was. Got a link to this party???

As a lawyer what evidence admissable to court is there that shows Trump involvement???
 
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whodeycin85 said:
No I don't believe Trump participated. I believe he knew much like we know..something is going on, but there isn't solid proof till there was. Got a link to this party???

As a lawyer what evidence admissable to court is there that shows Trump involvement???
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www.yahoo.com

Trump once hosted party for ‘young women’ where Epstein was the only guest, says report

President under pressure to release all files related to his former friend Epstein
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com


The court that matters now is the court of public opinion, and the opinion I'd say at this point shared by an overwhelming majority of people is that there is something rotten going on and Trump and his team are coming up with all sorts of schemes to prevent disclosure of information which will be bad for him.

What that turns out to be, exactly, remains to be seen.

But its bad enough that you've got these Trump officials contradicting each other and contradicting themselves and, in the end, refusing to release whatever material is in there that in some form or fashion implicates Trump in something so bad he is willing to corrupt everyone around him to prevents its release.
 
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So the House is subpoenaing the files, but also subpoenaing for deposition:

Merrick Garland
Loretta Lynch
Eric Holder
Alberto Gonzalez
Jeff Sessions
William Barr
James Comey
Robert Mueller
Bill Clinton
Hillary Clinton



Will the MAGA and GOP folks here admit what is obviously going on here? The circus they intend to invent to continue to protect Trump?

"Oh gosh, we have to wait on the Epstein files, and we will get them and review them and decide what needs to be released (to avoid releasing documents about Trump). But first we are going to embarrass some of these folks by implying they were involved with Epstein, and from others we are going to conjure up reasons to justify our withholding of some of the documents (to avoid releasing documents about Trump)."

This is more gamesmanship. Just release it all.
 
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lawgator1 said:
www.yahoo.com

Trump once hosted party for ‘young women’ where Epstein was the only guest, says report

President under pressure to release all files related to his former friend Epstein
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com


The court that matters now is the court of public opinion, and the opinion I'd say at this point shared by an overwhelming majority of people is that there is something rotten going on and Trump and his team are coming up with all sorts of schemes to prevent disclosure of information which will be bad for him.

What that turns out to be, exactly, remains to be seen.

But its bad enough that you've got these Trump officials contradicting each other and contradicting themselves and, in the end, refusing to release whatever material is in there that in some form or fashion implicates Trump in something so bad he is willing to corrupt everyone around him to prevents its release.
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I'm pretty sure it's unanimous that Trump fd the release...I wouldn't be surprised to see happen before his term is up....but think of this..we all know Trump is in files ..never been denied..hes never been to the island..the esptiens himself said there was nothing on Trump....even think Trump turned him in. I think he is tired of the constant base less accusations that he has had levied against him for the last decade plus...it'll be released but it will not matter what is released to folk like yourself who have an irrational hate for a man because MsM told you too because as long as you think it'll paint him in a bad light regardless of proof you'll harp on it and distract from the real issues.

And FTR that article says young girls...not underage...how many muliti-millionaires party with old ugly women??
 
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whodeycin85 said:
I'm pretty sure it's unanimous that Trump fd the release...I wouldn't be surprised to see happen before his term is up....but think of this..we all know Trump is in files ..never been denied..hes never been to the island..the esptiens himself said there was nothing on Trump....even think Trump turned him in. I think he is tired of the constant base less accusations that he has had levied against him for the last decade plus...it'll be released but it will not matter what is released to folk like yourself who have an irrational hate for a man because MsM told you too because as long as you think it'll paint him in a bad light regardless of proof you'll harp on it and distract from the real issues.

And FTR that article says young girls...not underage...how many muliti-millionaires party with old ugly women??
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Oh please. He's tired of the baseless accusations and THAT'S why he and the people around him are conjuring up excuse after excuse not to releae it???

Come on. If there was nothing there about him of any significance he'd have released it a long time ago to protect his image. Which is the single most important thing to him in life.

Every day this goes on should convince everyone of the fact that hes in there and its bad enough that he has everyone jumping through hoops to keep it under wraps.

Theres a list, there is no list

Release only whats pertinent

Release only the grand jury testimony

And now this lame and obvious gimmick with the House committee which is going to screen it for everyone before deciding what to release.


Its blatantly obvious to anyone with a semblance of experience in human life that he's lying his arse off about this. No small feat.
 
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26 Lolita Express Flights. 17 White House Visits. And THAT Painting. Bill Clinton's Sordid History With Epstein Is Better Documented Than Any. Here's Why The Game May Finally Be Up​


They schmoozed, flew on private jets together and grinned for photos in the White House.

But for years Bill Clinton has insisted he had 'no knowledge' of Jeffrey Epstein's dark web of child sex crimes.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Bill Clinton's real links with Epstein may finally be exposed

For years the 42nd President has insisted he had 'no knowledge' of Jeffrey Epstein's dark web of child sex crimes.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
 
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Ghislaine Maxwell Says She Never Saw Trump Do Anything That Would Have 'caused concern' During Secret Interview​


Jeffrey Epstein's former lover Ghislaine Maxwell said she never saw Donald Trump do anything that would have 'caused concern' during a secret interview with DOJ attorneys.

The details come as Attorney General Pam Bondi is weighing whether to release an audio recording of the interviews her deputy conducted with Maxwell last month.

Amid pressure to be more transparent about the Jeffrey Epstein case, Trump's administration is considering if the recordings should be made public.

And Maxwell did not disclose anything 'harmful' about Trump during the closed-door meeting, sources told ABC News.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Pam Bondi deliberates releasing secret Ghislaine Maxwell interview

Jeffrey Epstein's former lover Ghislaine Maxwell said she never saw Donald Trump do anything that would have 'caused concern' during a secret interview with DOJ attorneys.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
 
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Franklin Pierce said:

Ghislaine Maxwell Says She Never Saw Trump Do Anything That Would Have 'caused concern' During Secret Interview​


Jeffrey Epstein's former lover Ghislaine Maxwell said she never saw Donald Trump do anything that would have 'caused concern' during a secret interview with DOJ attorneys.

The details come as Attorney General Pam Bondi is weighing whether to release an audio recording of the interviews her deputy conducted with Maxwell last month.

Amid pressure to be more transparent about the Jeffrey Epstein case, Trump's administration is considering if the recordings should be made public.

And Maxwell did not disclose anything 'harmful' about Trump during the closed-door meeting, sources told ABC News.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Pam Bondi deliberates releasing secret Ghislaine Maxwell interview

Jeffrey Epstein's former lover Ghislaine Maxwell said she never saw Donald Trump do anything that would have 'caused concern' during a secret interview with DOJ attorneys.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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If you were seeking a pardon from trump what would you say? Surely this human trafficer wouldn't lie
 
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the only thing I know for sure about all this is that if the DOJ had anything tying Trump to Epstein activities it would have been released leading up to the 2024 election - it's absolutely the only thing they didn't try to derail him.

that said, the Trump administration handling of this has been pathetic
 
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volinbham said:
the only thing I know for sure about all this is that if the DOJ had anything tying Trump to Epstein activities it would have been released leading up to the 2024 election - it's absolutely the only thing they didn't try to derail him.

that said, the Trump administration handling of this has been pathetic
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Opponents couldn't have asked for a better outcome.

Muddied the water so much everyone has an out...

"Trump did it too"

"Biden admin doctored the list"

"Trump admin doctored the list"

"I did not have sex with that girl (the old fellatio is not really sex argument)"

"What does it matter now (statute of limitations argument)?"

"Alabama and Georgia suck( not germane to the current topic but can't be said enough)"
 
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Franklin Pierce said:

Ghislaine Maxwell Says She Never Saw Trump Do Anything That Would Have 'caused concern' During Secret Interview​


Jeffrey Epstein's former lover Ghislaine Maxwell said she never saw Donald Trump do anything that would have 'caused concern' during a secret interview with DOJ attorneys.

The details come as Attorney General Pam Bondi is weighing whether to release an audio recording of the interviews her deputy conducted with Maxwell last month.

Amid pressure to be more transparent about the Jeffrey Epstein case, Trump's administration is considering if the recordings should be made public.

And Maxwell did not disclose anything 'harmful' about Trump during the closed-door meeting, sources told ABC News.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Pam Bondi deliberates releasing secret Ghislaine Maxwell interview

Jeffrey Epstein's former lover Ghislaine Maxwell said she never saw Donald Trump do anything that would have 'caused concern' during a secret interview with DOJ attorneys.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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He also has Epstein's lawyer on record saying Epstein stated he had nothing on Trump.

Add them both up and Trump screwed the pooch on this.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The GOP and Trump continue to try to dance on the head of a pin. When will they learn ? The ONLY acceptable outcome is release of EVERYTHING.

Not piecemeal, not in dribs or drabs, not with qualifiers. If Trump is in there and its bad, if Clinton is in there and its bad, the chips will fall where they may.
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I do love your new found rage for this subject. It’s keeping your TDS on high and post count up.
 
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volinbham said:
the only thing I know for sure about all this is that if the DOJ had anything tying Trump to Epstein activities it would have been released leading up to the 2024 election - it's absolutely the only thing they didn't try to derail him.
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The obvious part the left can’t comprehend.
 
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rekinhavoc said:
www.breitbart.com

Newsom, Eyeing Presidential Run, Repeals Own Law Decriminalizing Loitering, Which Had Led to Sex Trafficking

Gavin Newsom signed a law Wednesday that repealed a law he signed in 2022 that decriminalized loitering and had enabled sex trafficking.
www.breitbart.com www.breitbart.com

www.breitbart.com

Report: Street Prostitution Explodes in L.A. After Newsom Restricts Arrests for 'Loitering'

Street prostitution has exploded in L.A. in the wake of a new law signed by Gov. Gavin Newsom to ban arrests for loitering for solicitation.
www.breitbart.com www.breitbart.com
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Will LA be ready for the Olympics? It just seems like a city in chaos that is in a state losing citizens and businesses to other states.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Yep. I'm the only one bothered by this.
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Many have been bothered for a long time. Those on the left like yourself are hanging their hope that this is the new “we got him now”. Everything else hasn’t worked but the media has you convinced somehow after 30+ years of weaving this is it.
 
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Majors said:
Many have been bothered for a long time. Those on the left like yourself are hanging their hope that this is the new “we got him now”. Everything else hasn’t worked but the media has you convinced somehow after 30+ years of weaving this is it.
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I take a broader view. The "got him" is the level of recognition that he lies at a nearly incomprehensible rate. About everything. Shamelessly. But you are right in the sense that my hope is that enough people come to grips with it and truly see it that his grip on MAGA is lessened to the point he just can't get away with it anymore.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I take a broader view. The "got him" is the level of recognition that he lies at a nearly incomprehensible rate. About everything. Shamelessly. But you are right in the sense that my hope is that enough people come to grips with it and truly see it that his grip on MAGA is lessened to the point he just can't get away with it anymore.
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Is that why you became an “independent”?

Did you come to grips with the Dems basically destroy everything they touch?
 
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