Jefferey Epstein found dead in jail cell

[K-town Vol Fan]

nice .....putting words in my mouth now and more avoidance.....children were sexually abused due to biden's corrupt open border policy.



how many unaccompanied kids that crossed the border have died?

GROK:
Data on unaccompanied minors who died while crossing the U.S.-Mexico border is limited and inconsistent, as no comprehensive, up-to-date public record tracks these specific deaths. Available information primarily comes from government reports, NGOs, and media, but these often focus on broader migrant deaths or lack precise figures for unaccompanied children.The International Organization for Migration (IOM) reported that between 2014 and August 29, 2024, at least 3,696 children died or went missing globally during migration journeys, but this includes various routes, not just the U.S.-Mexico border. For the U.S. specifically, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and other sources do not provide a clear count of unaccompanied minor deaths during border crossings. A 2019 report noted seven migrant children died in U.S. custody or shortly after apprehension, but this includes both accompanied and unaccompanied minors and is not recent.


Challenges include:

• Underreporting: Many deaths occur in remote areas, and bodies may not be found or identified as unaccompanied minors.
• Data Gaps: CBP focuses on "encounters" (apprehensions) rather than deaths. The Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) tracks minors in custody but not those who die en route.
  
  
  
• Mixed Categories: Statistics often combine accompanied and unaccompanied minors or focus on broader migrant deaths.

Without specific, recent data, an exact number cannot be confirmed. Estimates suggest hundreds of minors may have died over decades, but this is speculative based on broader migrant death trends (e.g., 8,000+ total migrant deaths from 1998–2020 per some studies). For a precise answer, more detailed reporting from CBP or IOM would be needed, but such data is not currently public. If you want, I can dig deeper into specific years or sources for partial insights.

You're accusing me of avoidance while hitting me with a whataboutism. You're comparing apples to oranges. It's not close.

 

[MurphyVol]

I'm just pointing out the gross double-standard. Trump did not cause children to be abused by Epstein, but Biden is DIRECTLY responsible for hurting children..... but let's not talk about that because the Epstein files are more important.

What ai there to say? He (essentially) lost the election and we all realize he was too senile to know what was going on.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Trump is not pardoning Maxwell.

He didn't say that today. He said it was an option. He could have easily said she wouldn't get a pardon but he left it as an option.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Making a deal with one of the worst child sex traffickers in history; to cover up for Trump.

Don’t you Republicans ever dare act like you give a flying eff about protecting children.

 

[lawgator1]

You didn't give a **** for the last four years.

That's because I did not realize until the last month or so that Trump would figure so prominently in the Epstein records.

 

[sonofUT62]

That's because I did not realize until the last month or so that Trump would figure so prominently in the Epstein records.

I believe you. I believe that you didn’t care about exploited children until the opportunity arose for Trump to be embarrassed.

 

[lawgator1]

Sounds like Trump is going to provide a list. He's essentially admitting that they were lying previously when they said that Epstein and Maxwell acted alone.

Also, this had better lead to prosecutions.

The MAGA world, which is so dependent on conspiracy theories and the notion that elites protect elites, is about to be tested when it is their golden boy who is the focus.

Do they stick to their principles and promote the notion that Trump is being protected by the institutions. Or do they go off on a tangent and just decide that there's a conspiracy to hurt their man.

Pretty simple, pretty obvious pretty pathetic that we know what the MAGA people will do which is protect Trump even though he doesn't deserve it

 

[lawgator1]

I believe you. I believe that you didn’t care about exploited children until the opportunity arose for Trump to be embarrassed.

The irony is that it was the MAGA .Republicans who were all over this and who were so concerned about it... and now want to turn a blind eye to it

 

[sonofUT62]

The irony is that it was the MAGA .Republicans who were all over this and who were so concerned about it... and now want to turn a blind eye to it

There are sadly 1-2 on here who have exposed themselves as being that way. They are the worst possible sort.

 

[Sandman 423]

There are sadly 1-2 on here who have exposed themselves as being that way. They are the worst possible sort.

Which ones?

 

[MontyPython]

Sounds like Trump is going to provide a list. He's essentially admitting that they were lying previously when they said that Epstein and Maxwell acted alone.

Also, this had better lead to prosecutions.

Does Donald Trump lie often?

Yes, Donald Trump has been documented to make a high number of false or misleading statements. Fact-checking organizations like PolitiFact and The Washington Post have tracked his claims extensively. The Washington Post reported that Trump made 30,573 false or misleading statements over his four-year presidency, averaging about 21 per day. These range from exaggerations (e.g., claiming the "biggest tax cuts ever" when they weren’t) to outright falsehoods (e.g., asserting widespread voter fraud in 2020, which was debunked by courts and election officials).

PolitiFact’s database rates many of Trump’s statements as "False" or "Pants on Fire," particularly on topics like the economy, immigration, and elections. For example, his repeated claim that the 2020 election was "stolen" lacks evidence, as confirmed by multiple audits and legal rulings. However, supporters often argue that his statements reflect broader truths or are misinterpreted by critics, as seen in X posts where users call fact-checks biased or frame his rhetoric as hyperbole for effect.

While "lie" implies intent to deceive, which is harder to prove definitively, the volume and consistency of Trump’s inaccuracies suggest a pattern of disregard for factual precision. Whether this constitutes "often" depends on interpretation, but the data shows a significant frequency of falsehoods compared to typical political discourse.

 

[rekinhavoc]

Expose the scumbags and get them out of power in our country.

 

[lawgator1]

He didn't say that today. He said it was an option. He could have easily said she wouldn't get a pardon but he left it as an option.

He needs her to implicate political enemies and, ideally, also agree to lie to help him. So he's dangling the possibility of s pardon to get her to help him.

 

[Majors]

So because the Democrats are corrupt liars means we should excuse Trump and the Republicans from also doing the same?

You excused the left being corrupt until recently. What changed, TDS and MSM telling you to be mad.

The fake rage is a nice touch.

 

[Orangeslice13]

He’s not wrong

 

[rekinhavoc]

He needs her to implicate political enemies and, ideally, also agree to lie to help him. So he's dangling the possibility of s pardon to get her to help him.

Of course there may be more D's than R's. They are all scumbags and we should be glad they get exposed. Eff the politics of this crap.

 

[MemphisVol77]

He’s not wrong View attachment 758560

The absurdity of partisan hacks on each side has reached a level of surrealism I didn't know was possible.

Unless 100% of the files/evidence get released (not gonna happen), each side is going to doubt the veracity of what gets released.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

You excused the left being corrupt until recently. What changed, TDS and MSM telling you to be mad.

The fake rage is a nice touch.

When have I ever excused the left? Just because I've started posting on politics recently on this site doesn't mean I have been sanctioning what the left has been doing in past years. In fact the last time I supported liberal policies was probably in 2004 as a silly high school kid. I voted for Obama twice cause he was black. In 2016 I supported Bernie cause he was the only honest politician. In 2020 I supported Kanye cause he was a true outsider. And in 2024 I supported RFK Jr cause he was anti-vax.

In fact I was fine with Trump winning this time cause Biden was the worst President ever and the Democrats had gone insane in recent years with the whole trans movement.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

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Of course there may be more D's than R's. They are all scumbags and we should be glad they get exposed. Eff the politics of this crap.

Couldn't the same be said about Trump back then. Wasn't he also a Democrat?

The elites jump back and forth from both parties cause they know both are corrupt and will do their bidding.

 

[CobbVol]

He needs her to implicate political enemies and, ideally, also agree to lie to help him. So he's dangling the possibility of s pardon to get her to help him.

Do you agree that Maxwell's trial was based on the testimony of 4 women during the 1994-2004 timeframe?
Do you agree that nothing beyond 2004 was included in the trial?

 

[lawgator1]

Do you agree that Maxwell's trial was based on the testimony of 4 women during the 1994-2004 timeframe?
Do you agree that nothing beyond 2004 was included in the trial?

I don't know. Sounds like you are preparing to defend a pardon for her.

 

[rekinhavoc]

The only thing that Trump has going for him on this is David Schoen.

Trump appears in Epstein flight logs 7 times, lawyer says no damaging info exists

Former Epstein attorney David Schoen contradicts Musk's claims about unreleased files as the relationship between Trump and the tech billionaire deteriorates.

www.cleveland.com

“I was hired to lead Jeffrey Epstein’s defense as his criminal lawyer 9 days before he died,” Schoen wrote. “He sought my advice for months before that. I can say authoritatively, unequivocally, and definitely that he had no information to hurt President Trump. I specifically asked that!”

 

[CobbVol]

I don't know. Sounds like you are preparing to defend a pardon for her.

I thought you would be up on this with you post count on this subject. I picked a CNN article among the others for your appeal.

Now, given that the trial's scope did not go beyond 2004 why was she not interviewed by any DOJ until last week on this subject?
Being a potential witness beyond 2004 do you not think that she should have been interviewed?
If credible information is brought forth through an interview situation like this, is a pardon or reduced sentence normal?

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/26/us/ghislaine-maxwell-charges/

 

[lawgator1]

I thought you would be up on this with you post count on this subject. I picked a CNN article among the others for your appeal.

Now, given that the trial's scope did not go beyond 2004 why was she not interviewed by any DOJ until last week on this subject?
Being a potential witness beyond 2004 do you not think that she should have been interviewed?
If credible information is brought forth through an interview situation like this, is a pardon or reduced sentence normal?

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/26/us/ghislaine-maxwell-charges/

A pardon isn't dependent on a DOJ interview. In this case, it would be a bribe, pure and simple.

 

[CobbVol]

A pardon isn't dependent on a DOJ interview. In this case, it would be a bribe, pure and simple.

Ohh Kay, continue on with your emotionally based posting "counselor".