Jefferey Epstein found dead in jail cell

[NEO]

Jeffery was going to sing and we saw what happened to him.

If you think Bondi made the unilateral decision to not release the (now nonexistent) files, then I've got some ocean front property to sell you in Wyoming.

Why did Biden not release it then if it included z trump? Doesn’t than seem to suggest it would have crippled the Democrats just as bad?

I fall under belief that it exist and it takes both parties down.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Man this thread appears to have been lit all day. Hadn’t checked into why but watching the nightly news and hearing about the WSJ report on Bondi I’m guessing I know why now!

 

[MontyPython]

Laying the groundwork and minimizing it in advance ....

"Epstein painted a complicated portrait of Trump. He called him “charming,” and “always fun,” capable of extraordinary salesmanship, and suggested he was personally in favor of Trump’s policies on“the transgender stuff.” But he alleged Trump was a serial cheat in his marriages and loved to “f--- the wives of his best friends.”

He also claimed that while Trump has friends, he was at heart a friendless man incapable of kindness. And he alleged that Trump had undergone scalp reduction surgery for baldness and called himself “The Trumpster.”

The new tapes shed light on a barely explored part of Trump's past, his long-term friendship with a man who would become one of America's most notorious sexual predators.

Asked by Wolff, “How do you know all this?” Epstein replied, “I was Donald’s closest friend for 10 years.”

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Birds of a feather.

Here's your boy MAGA backers. Stripped bare.

Grab em by the P#$@&! President Trump. You can have anyone you want because you're rich. Don't forget, they want you even when they say NO.

By all means, tell me how morals and ethics are unnecessary for our President. The gaslighting of the right is absolutely epic in proportions.

Whataboutisms incoming in 3... 2...

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

See any proof to contrary if your bias will not be accepted.... Can you name another associated with Epstein that willing assisted LE??? Per the victims lawyer.... Those that accused him never provided the evidence they said they had..

All that could mean is Trump is a very smart and shrewd man. Better to negotiate with the enemy than fight them. I don't think this article proves what you want it to prove. All it gives me is more questions than answers. The biggest one being why would the Epstein victims even name Trump in the first place if he's totally innocent? What other innocent people were named by Epstein victims? And why exactly was the case dropped? The attorney answers none of these questions.

All this does is tie Trump to Epstein even more.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Any reasonable person would come to that conclusion

Yes. When articles like this are coming out every other day:

Trump was told by Bondi his name appeared multiple times in Epstein files: Report

According to a report in the Wall Street Journal, Pam Bondi informed President Trump in May that his name appeared multiple times in the Epstein files.

abcnews.go.com

Why would Epstein's victims file a lawsuit against Trump if he's totally innocent? At some point where there's smoke there's fire.

 

[Sandman 423]

Yes. When articles like this are coming out every other day:

Trump was told by Bondi his name appeared multiple times in Epstein files: Report

According to a report in the Wall Street Journal, Pam Bondi informed President Trump in May that his name appeared multiple times in the Epstein files.

abcnews.go.com

Why would Epstein's victims file a lawsuit against Trump if he's totally innocent? At some point where there's smoke there's fire.

Money.

There seems to be an awful lot of smoke coming out about the origins of the investigation into Russian collusion, is there a fire there?

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

its been enough for you claim, with no qualifications, that he had sex with 13 year olds. or at least wants to.

Nope. All I said is it proves he's a sexual deviant. From those quotes to having sex with porn stars. To his other questionable behavior. Its about the totality of his character. That statement alone wouldn't have implicated someone else in my eyes. But when you look at it in combination with everything else we know about Trump it leads me to believe it's totally POSSIBLE he was involved in crimes with Epstein.

All I've said is it's possible he at the very least knew what Epstein was doing and did nothing.

 

[apevol]

this is starting to feel an awful lot like Trump is flailing

the wsj piece came out 15 minutes after Gabbards announcement

if Trump was in on this horror show, i hope the American people won't be conned into letting him go down alone

 

[Smokey123]

America has some very serious partisanship issues

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

I've asked this before but never received a satisfactory answer. If some Tier 1 intelligence agencies were really involved wouldn't it make much more sense to have them scrubbed themselves off everything way back at the beginning when Epstein was exposed? Hell, why would they have ever had themselves in the official (meaning anything that would be available to "regular" government) in the first place? To have themselves exposed in some file that's been sitting around all this time seems more like The Goonies than the CIA/Mossad.

If they were blackmailing politicians then it's very hard to hide such a fact. For example, one of the allegations is that Israel wanted Bill Clinton to release an Israeli spy we had captured that committed espionage and as leverage they told him they would give him tapes they recorded of his encounters with Monica Lewinsky. That sort of blackmail can't be scrubbed clean. Everyone knows only the highest levels of a foreign government would want the release of a spy.

The argument is the Epstein situation was this and then some. If the files include interviews with those being blackmailed then they would obviously know who is blackmailing and the why. This wasn't just guys touching little kids and then going on their merry way. It was an intricate web of deceit and blackmail where based on the objective makes who the culprits are very obvious.

 

[volbound1700]

America has some very serious partisanship issues

Leadership issues. We need new billionaires and millionaires running our society. Not necessarily a fan of wealth distribution but the current super rich are not helping us.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Money.

There seems to be an awful lot of smoke coming out about the origins of the investigation into Russian collusion, is there a fire there?

If it's just about money why not name some other rich guy? Why was Trump the go to guy for these two Epstein victims if they just wanted money? What was it about Trump that he was the one who got the false accusation thrown at him?

The Russia stuff was obviously a hoax. I could have told you that back then. And if you want to know I would support prosecuting Obama and everyone involved AFTER WE GET THE EPSTEIN FILES and prosecute those criminals. What I'm not gonna do is fall for this trick where they try to distract us with some other crime. Last I checked child rapists are worse than political criminals. Lets first prosecute the child rapists rather than hiding their crimes and protecting them.

 

[lawgator1]

Does a name appearing in files mean he took part in illegal activity? Or does it indicate he was an acquaintance, did business with him, or appeared on flight logs?

So far from what I can tell the Epstein files are a huge file on him, his business practices, people he did business with, people he socialized with, ect. It's not a client list of people he trafficked young girls to. Maybe some of those people are guilty. Maybe a list like that exists, but I don't think it's in the generic Epstein file currently being searched.

I don't know. But let's assume it is minor.

That doesn't explain why the feeble mental gymnastics, dressed up in panic, to hide it. Which means, what did lead to this ?

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

You know things are about to get bad when Fox is even saying it...

 

[hndog609]

If they were blackmailing politicians then it's very hard to hide such a fact. For example, one of the allegations is that Israel wanted Bill Clinton to release an Israeli spy we had captured that committed espionage and as leverage they told him they would give him tapes they recorded of his encounters with Monica Lewinsky. That sort of blackmail can't be scrubbed clean. Everyone knows only the highest levels of a foreign government would want the release of a spy.

The argument is the Epstein situation was this and then some. If the files include interviews with those being blackmailed then they would obviously know who is blackmailing and the why. This wasn't just guys touching little kids and then going on their merry way. It was an intricate web of deceit and blackmail where based on the objective makes who the culprits are very obvious.

See, that just brings us back to the other problem, which is if that's really the case then we've had this doomsday device of a file describing SPECTRE just sitting around. That's a pretty far out concept.

 

[NashVol11]

Not the best look

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Epstein's 'black book' contact list also included entries for Trump's first wife Ivana, their daughter Ivanka and the president's brother Robert.


Names who are in the address book include Mick Jagger, Michael Jackson, actor Alec Baldwin, Ethel Kennedy, Andrew Cuomo, Naomi Campbell and Courtney Love.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Ghislaine Maxwell is scheduled to be deposed by lawmakers in early August, a top Republican shared as fears percolate that notorious convicted sex trafficker could be harmed in prison.

House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer announced issuing a subpoena for Maxwell to testify on August 11 at the Tallahassee facility where she is serving her prison sentence.

The scheduled high-stakes meeting comes one day after Republican Rep. Tim Burchett of Tennessee pushed to have Maxwell subpoenaed after accusing the administration of hiding the full Epstein files.

And Maxwell may want to talk, according to a source who told the Daily Mail 'she would be more than happy to sit before Congress and tell her story,' though her lawyer has made no commitment.

'If Ms. Maxwell agrees to testify before Congress and not take the 5th—and that remains a big if—she would testify truthfully, as she always has said she would and as she will with Mr. Blanche,' Maxwell's lawyer David Markus told the New York Sun. 'The truth should not be feared or preemptively dismissed.'

Date set for Ghislaine Maxwell's bombshell testimony to Congress

Ghislaine Maxwell is scheduled to be deposed by lawmakers in early August, a top Republican has shared as fears percolate that she could be harmed in prison.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Matt2496]

As it turns out, Elon Musk was right all along.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Ghislaine Maxwell is assembling “new evidence” to present to the feds when she meets with them this week, her brother told The Post.

Jeffrey Epstein’s madame never gave her version of events to federal prosecutors before her 2021 trial, which resulted in a 20-year sentence for recruiting women and underage girls for Epstein to sexually abuse. She also never testified in her own defense.

“She will be putting before that court material new evidence that was not available to the defense at her 2021 trial, which would have had a significant impact on its outcome,” Ian Maxwell told The Post in an email Wednesday.

Maxwell, 63, is the lynchpin in the Epstein affair and one of the few people still alive who knows the names, times, dates and places of his entanglements — both in business and private. Epstein died in jail while awaiting trial in 2019.

“If she squeals on some of the people that she has videos on they won’t be happy, ” former Epstein sex slave Virginia Guiffre alleged in an interview with Gayle King on CBS News in 2020.


Guiffre, who took her own life in April, became one of the most prominent accusers of Ghislaine and Epstein after she had been recruited by the pair and worked for them until 2002, during which time she claimed to have slept with high profile men including Britain’s Prince Andrew and “a president with a Spanish accent,” according to court pape

Exclusive | Ghislaine Maxwell preparing ‘new evidence’ ahead of highly anticipated meeting with feds, her brother explains

“[Ghislaine] was vicious. She was evil. Put it this way, Epstein was Pinocchio and she was Geppetto. She was the guy controlling the strings,” Virginia Giuffre once said.

nypost.com

 

[volfanhill]

Ghislaine Maxwell is assembling “new evidence” to present to the feds when she meets with them this week, her brother told The Post.

Jeffrey Epstein’s madame never gave her version of events to federal prosecutors before her 2021 trial, which resulted in a 20-year sentence for recruiting women and underage girls for Epstein to sexually abuse. She also never testified in her own defense.

“She will be putting before that court material new evidence that was not available to the defense at her 2021 trial, which would have had a significant impact on its outcome,” Ian Maxwell told The Post in an email Wednesday.

Maxwell, 63, is the lynchpin in the Epstein affair and one of the few people still alive who knows the names, times, dates and places of his entanglements — both in business and private. Epstein died in jail while awaiting trial in 2019.

“If she squeals on some of the people that she has videos on they won’t be happy, ” former Epstein sex slave Virginia Guiffre alleged in an interview with Gayle King on CBS News in 2020.


Guiffre, who took her own life in April, became one of the most prominent accusers of Ghislaine and Epstein after she had been recruited by the pair and worked for them until 2002, during which time she claimed to have slept with high profile men including Britain’s Prince Andrew and “a president with a Spanish accent,” according to court pape

Exclusive | Ghislaine Maxwell preparing ‘new evidence’ ahead of highly anticipated meeting with feds, her brother explains

“[Ghislaine] was vicious. She was evil. Put it this way, Epstein was Pinocchio and she was Geppetto. She was the guy controlling the strings,” Virginia Giuffre once said.

nypost.com

Who cares? They got paid man. Isn't that your stance?

 

[DaddyChad]

I feel dirty but I agree with you!!!!!

Scary when people from both sides believe the system is rigged.

 

[DaddyChad]

I doubt we will ever see head rolling for this....it either the conspiracy is to deep...or there isn't enough evidence to secure a conviction....

Yall realize likely every one of these bastards have blackmail on the others. Nothing of substance against someone big will ever come out. If it does that person will come down with an unfortunate case of suicide

 

[TheDeeble]

I don't know. But let's assume it is minor.

That doesn't explain why the feeble mental gymnastics, dressed up in panic, to hide it. Which means, what did lead to this ?

He's handling it poorly no doubt, but it could also be explained that given everything that's been thrown at him in the past 9 years why would he not do what he feels is necessary to protect himself if he actually did not take part in underage sexual activities. It's not like the media need actual proof and evidence of him doing something to accuse him of it and try to ruin his life.

I guarantee you anyone that was friends with Epstein in the past is praying the media lenses don't turn towards them. And if they did, those same people would minimize their friendship with Epstein. Lie about it. Even if they did nothing wrong. Why did Bill Gates lie about his relationship with Epstein in 2019. Does that mean he's a pedo? Or just trying to distance himself so he doesn't look bad.

Mr. Gates, the Microsoft co-founder, whose $100 billion-plus fortune has endowed the world’s largest charitable organization, has done his best to minimize his connections to Mr. Epstein. “I didn’t have any business relationship or friendship with him,” he told The Wall Street Journal last month.

In fact, beginning in 2011, Mr. Gates met with Mr. Epstein on numerous occasions — including at least three times at Mr. Epstein’s palatial Manhattan townhouse, and at least once staying late into the night, according to interviews with more than a dozen people familiar with the relationship, as well as documents reviewed by The New York Times.

Employees of Mr. Gates’s foundation also paid multiple visits to Mr. Epstein’s mansion. And Mr. Epstein spoke with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and JPMorgan Chase about a proposed multibillion-dollar charitable fund — an arrangement that had the potential to generate enormous fees for Mr. Epstein.......

Mr. Epstein and Mr. Gates first met face to face on the evening of Jan. 31, 2011, at Mr. Epstein’s townhouse on the Upper East Side. They were joined by Dr. Eva Andersson-Dubin, a former Miss Sweden whom Mr. Epstein had once dated, and her 15-year-old daughter. (Dr. Andersson-Dubin’s husband, the hedge fund billionaire Glenn Dubin, was a friend and business associate of Mr. Epstein’s. The Dubins declined to comment.) The gathering started at 8 and lasted several hours, according to Ms. Arnold, Mr. Gates’s spokeswoman. Mr. Epstein subsequently boasted about the meeting in emails to friends and associates. “Bill’s great,” he wrote in one, reviewed by The Times. Mr. Gates, in turn, praised Mr. Epstein’s charm and intelligence. Emailing colleagues the next day, he said: “A very attractive Swedish woman and her daughter dropped by and I ended up staying there quite late."

Mr. Gates and Mr. Epstein kept seeing each other. Ms. Arnold would not say how many times the two had met.

In March 2013, Mr. Gates flew on Mr. Epstein’s Gulfstream plane from Teterboro Airport in New Jersey to Palm Beach, Fla., according to a flight manifest. Ms. Arnold said Mr. Gates — who has his own $40 million jet — hadn’t been aware it was Mr. Epstein’s plane.

Six months later, Mr. Nikolic and Mr. Gates were in New York for a meeting related to Schrödinger, a pharmaceutical software company in which Mr. Gates had a large investment. On that trip, Mr. Epstein and Mr. Gates met for dinner and discussed the Gates Foundation and philanthropy, Ms. Arnold said.

And in October 2014, Mr. Gates donated $2 million to the Massachusetts Institute of Technology’s Media Lab. University officials described the gift in internal emails as having been “directed” by Mr. Epstein. Ms. Arnold said, “There was no intention, nor explicit ask, for the funding to be controlled in any manner by Epstein.”
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html

And this is not a defense of Trump saying he did nothing wrong. It's just at this point there's no proof. A lot of people, especially reddit, is doing victory laps because they think his name being mentioned in the file equates to it's proof he's a pedo. But I don't think that info is in the file everyone is talking about. I hope the people that are guilty get convicted. Democrats, Republicans, actors, CEOs, ect. Don't care what they do. But I have my doubts as to whether that will happen.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

See, that just brings us back to the other problem, which is if that's really the case then we've had this doomsday device of a file describing SPECTRE just sitting around. That's a pretty far out concept.

Its only a far out concept if you believe in the mirage of the two party system and a democratic government versus what we really live under which is a one party oligarchy run by blackmail and murder.

When everyone is crooked it's not that far out.