Jefferey Epstein found dead in jail cell

[whodeycin85]

Im struggling to get past why it wouldnt have been leaked already if he was in there.

But this admin is 10000% acting like they are covering up something with the lies, actions, changing stories. The oddly specific release of grand jury testimony is another item that causes the alarms to go off. Im not saying its even him in there but they are absolutely acting like they are covering up something....

They might not be but they are sure acting that way.

It feels like there may be world changing info on there. Maybe names of forgieners that may lead to ak economic downfall if exposed....and also I don't think there is anything but circumstantial evidence which will do nothing but allow more accusations without proof.

 

[appvol]

They were protecting their own like Bill Clinton. The point about Epstein is both parties are implicated not just one. Which is why both have fought to hide the files whenever they are in power.

Stop thinking this is about Democrats vs Republicans. Its about decent people versus the evil monsters who run our country.

That was kind the of the point I was making but the libturds get so excited that they get to say Trump. There is no telling who was involved.

 

[Sandman 423]

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If you see something sexual in that picture, there is something wrong with you.

 

[tbh]

If you see something sexual in that picture, there is something wrong with you.

The parrot statues look like they might be warming up to getting busy, but other than that, I agree.

 

[CobbVol]

Why am I not surprised? Guess Johnson and Trump were feeling extra swampy today...

It is called a Summer recess. Happens every year. This year they are leaving on 7/23 vs the scheduled 7/24 date.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Dude, you are a mindless drone who has no idea what they are talking about. No matter the topic, you are a complete and total fool.

Brad Kaaya

Bye Felicia...

Says the guy wondering why the Democrats wouldn't release a list implicating them.

 

[tbh]

It is called a Summer recess. Happens every year. This year they are leaving on 7/23 vs the scheduled 7/24 date.

Understood. I may be missing some nuance here, but why not go ahead and stick to the scheduled date of 7/24? Is there that much concern about a vote?

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

No

You know I said reasonable not what you wish to be true as a delusional cult member. A reasonable person would conclude Trump is most likely implicated in the Epstein case given his history with Epstein and his deviant sexual behavior that is already a matter of public record.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Says the guy wondering why the Democrats wouldn't release a list implicating them.

You must be a special kind of stupid if you think they are going to protect Trump because a guy who last ran 29 years ago might on there. Especially after what they tried to do to keep him off the ballot in 2024.

Almost a Kaaya>Mahomes level of stupid...

 

[Sandman 423]

You know I said reasonable not what you wish to be true as a delusional cult member. A reasonable person would could conclude Trump is most likely implicated in the Epstein case given his history with Epstein and his deviant sexual behavior that is already a matter of public record.

FYP

 

[CobbVol]

Understood. I may be missing some nuance here, but why not go ahead and stick to the scheduled date of 7/24? Is there that much concern about a vote?

Who knows. I thought he stated that the vote was political theater for event that may already occur with the DOJ already asking the court to release the GJ testimony.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

How do you reconcile in your mind the fact the Trump assisted the FBI in the initial prosecution of Epstein???? Do you think as a client of Epstein that Trump would turn on him and there be no reports of a deal or immunity for his efforts?? Also why would a pedo turn in his supplies of kids???

@lawgator1 please answer this as well as you both are working from a bad premise of guilty before proven innocent

Can you please provide a link for this claim cause I haven't seen it anywhere else. This timeline of Trump and Epstein's relationship makes no mention of your claim: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/17/us/politics/timeline-trump-epstein.html

With that said, cooperating with an investigation doesn't necessarily enhance a claim of innocence. The government can usually compel you to comply through court order if you don't do so willingly. So it's possible Trump cooperated cause he would have been compelled to cooperate otherwise.

If Trump had turned in Epstein that would be another story. Providing evidence that gets someone arrested is a strong sign of innocence. However, simply cooperating with an investigation doesn't provide a strong suggestion of innocence.

 

[LouderVol]

I don't know why you guys keep playing as Trump's defense attorney. Get his nuts out of your mouth and just look at his history objectively. He's been close friends with Epstein for years. He has a history of degenerate sexual behavior. And he's now fighting his own base to hide the Epstein files.

How does that not scream he's involved to a reasonable person?

I hate bad arguments. even if I ultimately agree with what you are saying, if you make a dumb argument I am going to call it out. I want better conversations and debates on here, not more dribble; along those lines I am calling out bad arguments.

if you weren't so absolute about it, I wouldn't say squat. because the "joke" being a reason to QUESTION Trump is perfectly reasonable. but that same "joke" is not enough to convict him like you are acting.

 

[Vol8188]

You know I said reasonable not what you wish to be true as a delusional cult member. A reasonable person would conclude Trump is most likely implicated in the Epstein case given his history with Epstein and his deviant sexual behavior that is already a matter of public record.

A reasonable person would conclude that everything that can be leaked about Trump has been because the man has a knack for making enemies. If this information were there, it would be released.

It’s not. Your claim that they just can’t because it’ll implicate them too, is also nonsense. Anytime information discrediting the conspiracy is revealed you guys do this same dumb routine where you just proclaim “it goes even deeper!”

 

[CobbVol]

Can you please provide a link for this claim cause I haven't seen it anywhere else. This timeline of Trump and Epstein's relationship makes no mention of your claim: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/17/us/politics/timeline-trump-epstein.html

With that said, cooperating with an investigation doesn't necessarily enhance a claim of innocence. The government can usually compel you to comply through court order if you don't do so willingly. So it's possible Trump cooperated cause he would have been compelled to cooperate otherwise.

If Trump had turned in Epstein that would be another story. Providing evidence that gets someone arrested is a strong sign of innocence. However, simply cooperating with an investigation doesn't provide a strong suggestion of innocence.

FLASHBACK: Lawyer For Epstein's Victims Says Trump Was The Only Powerful Figure Who Helped Him With Investigation

A video resurfaced Tuesday of attorney Bradley Edwards discussing former President Donald Trump's attitude and actions toward late child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein

dailycaller.com

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

You must be a special kind of stupid if you think they are going to protect Trump because a guy who last ran 29 years ago might on there. Especially after what they tried to do to keep him off the ballot in 2024.

You must be a special kind of stupid if you don’t realize they're also protecting the blackmailers. Go back and read my post. It's not just Bill Clinton and other Democrats they are protecting. I agree they probably would have sacrificed Clinton if it meant locking up Trump as well. But the people who don't want the Epstein list released aren't the ones on the list but those who were blackmailing the names on the list. In particular the Mossad and CIA.

Why would these intelligence agencies give up all the leverage they've built for decades? That's the reason the list wasnt released by Democrats even with Trump's name on there. Because they're bosses (the real Deep State that runs everything) told them don't even think about it.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

I hate bad arguments. even if I ultimately agree with what you are saying, if you make a dumb argument I am going to call it out. I want better conversations and debates on here, not more dribble; along those lines I am calling out bad arguments.

if you weren't so absolute about it, I wouldn't say squat. because the "joke" being a reason to QUESTION Trump is perfectly reasonable. but that same "joke" is not enough to convict him like you are acting.

No one is saying convict him. We're just saying stop defending him. At the very least treat him with suspicion rather than acting like he's as pure as the driven snow. Even I'm not 100% sure he's on the list. I just think it's plausible given his behavior and relationship with Epstein. Its also possible he knew about the blackmail operation and stayed clear of it while laughing with Epstein with regard to those caught up in it.

 

[tbh]

Who knows. I thought he stated that the vote was political theater for event that may already occur with the DOJ already asking the court to release the GJ testimony.

Yep, it is difficult to identify the true motivations for the delay. I'd think that the collective of Congresscritters would jump at the chance for some political theater and self-congratulation that the two sides could take back to their bases, etc. Even if the DOJ request means the info could be released in the future, I'd think a successful vote would increase that likelihood.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

A reasonable person would conclude that everything that can be leaked about Trump has been because the man has a knack for making enemies. If this information were there, it would be released.

It’s not. Your claim that they just can’t because it’ll implicate them too, is also nonsense. Anytime information discrediting the conspiracy is revealed you guys do this same dumb routine where you just proclaim “it goes even deeper!”

Not if the Deep State doesn't want the nature of their blackmail to be exposed. If the Epstein situation is what most reasonable people believe it is. An intelligence honeypot operation where rich powerful men were drawn in through sex then blackmailed by Mossad or the CIA to go against the interests of the American people then there's actually a strong incentive to not release the list.

If the list were released then all those people who are currently subject to blackmail can't be blackmailed anymore. Also exposing the operation could jeopardize future operations like it. So despite your opinion, not everyone is obsessed with Trump. There are secrets bigger than him. And keeping the public from knowing the extent of this blackmail operation is one of them.

 

[whodeycin85]

Can you please provide a link for this claim cause I haven't seen it anywhere else. This timeline of Trump and Epstein's relationship makes no mention of your claim: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/17/us/politics/timeline-trump-epstein.html

With that said, cooperating with an investigation doesn't necessarily enhance a claim of innocence. The government can usually compel you to comply through court order if you don't do so willingly. So it's possible Trump cooperated cause he would have been compelled to cooperate otherwise.

If Trump had turned in Epstein that would be another story. Providing evidence that gets someone arrested is a strong sign of innocence. However, simply cooperating with an investigation doesn't provide a strong suggestion of innocence.

Notice it was directly after he booted Epstein from mar a lago.. And he is only one to assist.... Your logic is dumb

Jeffrey Epstein victims' attorney talks about Donald Trump claims

In a 2018 interview Bradley Edwards said Trump "gave no indication whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward."

www.newsweek.com

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

FLASHBACK: Lawyer For Epstein's Victims Says Trump Was The Only Powerful Figure Who Helped Him With Investigation

A video resurfaced Tuesday of attorney Bradley Edwards discussing former President Donald Trump's attitude and actions toward late child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein

dailycaller.com

So two former Epstein victims made allegations against Trump and you think because he cooperated with the attorney of the victims it makes him innocent? Shouldn't the allegations by those victims be the bigger headline?

Thank you for notifying me of this. I never knew that there were actual Epstein victims that named Trump and that the case was dropped before going to trial. This creates more questions than answers. For one did Trump paid off the victims to make the allegations go away?

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Notice it was directly after he booted Epstein from mar a lago.. And he is only one to assist.... Your logic is dumb

Jeffrey Epstein victims' attorney talks about Donald Trump claims

In a 2018 interview Bradley Edwards said Trump "gave no indication whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward."

www.newsweek.com

Read the entire article. He had a case brought against him by two of Epstein's victims. It was dropped before going to trial. I wonder why? Is it possible he paid them off?

That article creates more questions than answers. What was the allegations these two victims had against Trump? And why was the case dropped before going to trial?

 

[whodeycin85]

Read the entire article. He had a case brought against him by two of Epstein's victims. It was dropped before going to trial. I wonder why? Is it possible he paid them off?

That article creates more questions than answers. What was the allegations these two victims had against Trump? And why was the case dropped before going to trial?

See any proof to contrary if your bias will not be accepted.... Can you name another associated with Epstein that willing assisted LE??? Per the victims lawyer.... Those that accused him never provided the evidence they said they had..

 

[whodeycin85]

From one Trump accuser

In 2019, The New Yorker reported that Ransome told the magazine she had invented the claims of videotapes to draw attention to Epstein's behavior and to make him believe she had "evidence that would come out" if Epstein harmed her, according to the magazine.

The other said it happens in Epstein s new York place 2 years before Epstein had bought it.. That's why these cases were dropped

 

[Sandman 423]

So two former Epstein victims made allegations against Trump and you think because he cooperated with the attorney of the victims it makes him innocent? Shouldn't the allegations by those victims be the bigger headline?

Thank you for notifying me of this. I never knew that there were actual Epstein victims that named Trump and that the case was dropped before going to trial. This creates more questions than answers. For one did Trump paid off the victims to make the allegations go away?

Any reasonable person would come to that conclusion