Jefferey Epstein found dead in jail cell

[jmacvols1]

He has only himself to blame. Should have told his son, VP, his AG, FBI Director, and assistant FBI director to STFU. Instead he let them continually spout nonsense. Allow his AG to Fake a "Epstein release day" with those same influencers you are complaining about, and then when that blew up in their face, he allowed her to claim their would be a phase two. He has zero people to blame besides himself. You should direct your frustration at his administrations cluster F in handling this at him. Not internet influencers

I have no frustrations with any of it.


TTSPA

 

[jmacvols1]

I commented on this above. There could be way worse in there, but they leak this to Murdoch to make it look like this is all there is and of course it falls flat. Boys will be boys and totally in character for Trump.

Steve Bannon is already on board and touting that the birthday card is all there is.

Problem: If that is all there is, then why not release it all? Why would Trump and Bondi have been all twisted up over a birthday card?

There's more. Much worse.

Trump sued ABC and CBS over defamation, why not sue WSJ?

 

[MemphisVol77]

Don't know. But sense his plan was initially to not release crap he gets zero benefit of the doubt. This is what happens when you surround yourself with sycophants. No one to tell him he's an idiot. Now he's playing from behind. All bc of ego.

Trump let it get buried during his first term. The dems did jack about it last term. Now Trump has placed himself back in the bullseye. I can't believe the amount of people that are still viewing this along partisan lines.
Sexual deviance towards children is pure evil that doesn't delineate along party lines.

I despise the left more than the right, but neither party has moral high ground.

Trump needs to own this.

 

[volfanhill]

I have no frustrations with any of it.


TTSPA

Fair enough. But you blaming this on internet influencers is misplaced. And no one cares about his support with his base. He's not running again for anything. His overall support is down bigly since his election. The middle ten that broke for him is less than enthused. This would be like LG sending me Harris polling data within Dems. Wtf?

 

[MercyPercy]

....to some people. Influencers are trying to make a big issue out of it and keep it stirred up to make money The Epstein file to majority of Trump supporters was not high on their priority list. How dumb is it for these so called MAGAs wanting to tear down all the good Trump has done and will do over just one issue.



TTSPA

You are a liar.

How many times are people going to have to explain to you that it's not just nobody influencers?

JD Vance
Dan Bongino
Kash Patel
Pam Bondi
Donald Trump Jr.

According to you, these people never said **** about Epstein.

Dishonest and dumb is no way to go through life.

 

[jmacvols1]

Sexual deviance towards children is pure evil that doesn't delineate along party lines.

Everyone agress with this statement you made but what is there to do?

Can't release a list that maybe fake and damage innocent people? Even if a real list exist, it may have people['s name on it that did nothing wrong. A name on a list does not prove guilt. Releasing a list create defamation suits all day long.

Shipwreckedcrew was a long time Federal Prosecutor who has been demonstrating problems in prosecuting people:


Shipwreckedcrew
@shipwreckedcrew
21h


Particularly when many (Epstein's victims) continued on for long periods of time after they were 18. Two of the individuals identified by name as the co-conspirators who would not be prosecuted -- all 4 were women -- claimed to have been victimizing by Epstein when they were young, and THEN they went to work helping him.

No "incriminating" client list.

No "credible" evidence of third party involvement.

"No evidence" and "No credible evidence" means there were allegations made by an investigation into the allegations showed them to be unfounded.

They have tapes of Epstein, and of child porn Epstein collected over time.

THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY EVIDENCE THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT THE FBI/DOJ HAS TAPES OF SEXUAL ACTIVITIES OF ANYONE ELSE.

Evidence matters -- not the fevered dreams of the Epstein Pedo Island Conspiracy crew.

 

[KB5252]

Are you telling me you believe this picture is legit?

 

[jmacvols1]

Fair enough. But you blaming this on internet influencers is misplaced. And no one cares about his support with his base. He's not running again for anything. His overall support is down bigly since his election. The middle ten that broke for him is less than enthused. This would be like LG sending me Harris polling data within Dems. Wtf?

Influencers are just keeping a nothing-burger stirred up to make money.

Trump's base is staying with him. Sure there are some that are mad for whatever reason but if they want the Dems to take control of the House in 2 years and stiffle Trump and all the good he is trying to do then they are stupid. No skin off my nose if that happens but they are stupid over an issue like this. There will not be another Trump to come along who can get things done like he has. JD Vance is somewhat popular Rubio to some extent but neither come close to Trump. People better step back and give Trump some slack and leeway and let him get his agenda through.

 

[KB5252]

I suspect that most people on this board, even Trump supporters, if they were being honest would admit that based on how this has evolved it is more likely than not that Trump is in there and more so than a drawing and a Happy Bday message.

I don't support Trump. It's possible, he's rich and powerful and Epstein catered to rich and powerful. But I've seen nothing even remotely legitimate that I could base an informed opinion on.

And you'd certainly never make a case like this in criminal court. As an attorney good have to admit there's nothing linking him to booster even a decent civil case.

 

[MercyPercy]

Influencers are just keeping a nothing-burger stirred up to make money.

Trump's base is staying with him. Sure there are some that are mad for whatever reason but if they want the Dems to take control of the House in 2 years and stiffle Trump and all the good he is trying to do then they are stupid. No skin off my nose if that happens but they are stupid over an issue like this. There will not be another Trump to come along who can get things done like he has. JD Vance is somewhat popular Rubio to some extent but neither come close to Trump. People better step back and give Trump some slack and leeway and let him get his agenda through.

Leave Trumpy bear alone!!!!

 

[BeardedVol]

 

[jmacvols1]

You are a liar.

How many times are people going to have to explain to you that it's not just nobody influencers?

JD Vance
Dan Bongino
Kash Patel
Pam Bondi
Donald Trump Jr.

According to you, these people never said **** about Epstein.

Dishonest and dumb is no way to go through life.

They cannot release a list of names for all the reasons given regardless of what the people said you listed above. Understanding people can understand that hardheaded ones cannot.

 

[jmacvols1]

Leave Trumpy bear alone!!!!

Did you vote from Trump, were you a Tump supporter?

 

[MercyPercy]

They cannot release a list of names for all the reasons given regardless of what the people said you listed above. Understanding people can understand that hardheaded ones cannot.

I will continue to call out your lying and pretending that none of those people in the Trump admin (and Trump himself) created this monster.

You will continue to repeat whatever the last thing that came out of Trump's mouth was.

 

[MemphisVol77]

@jmacvols1

Everyone agress with this statement you made but what is there to do?

Prosecute everyone criminally involved. It wasn't just Epstein and Ghislain.
@jmacvols1

Can't release a list that maybe fake and damage innocent people? Even if a real list exist, it may have people['s name on it that did nothing wrong. A name on a list does not prove guilt. Releasing a list create defamation suits all day long.

Don't prosecute the innocent. You'll be left with a list of people facing criminal charges. Release that.

I'm pretty certain the idea of a special prosecutor has already been mentioned. After all the noise JD Vance, Dan Bongino, Kash Patel, Pam Bondi, & Donald Trump Jr made about Epstein......., that's the least Trump could do.

 

[KB5252]

Trump supporters are rallying around their president. Durbin is making claims, well see if he can substantiate those claims.

Either way I think the files need to be released with as little redaction as possible.

And for the record no one on either side of the issue can claim they care about the truth. The truth doesn't matter, it's just a political football.

 

[MercyPercy]

Let's take a look at the not so distant past.

1.3.24 Epstein documents 943 pages

www.documentcloud.org

Mario Nawfal

@MarioNawfal
EPSTEIN FORCED MINOR TO HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH HARVARD LAW PROFESSOR ALAN DERSHOWITZ

Jane Doe #3 is a minor who was forced to have sexual relations with people on behalf of Epstein

"Epstein forced then-minor Jane Doe #3 to have sexual relations with former Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz, a close friend of Epstein’s and well-known criminal defense attorney."

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@jmacvols1 are you yourself one of the grifting influencers that was playing this up that you keep shifting blame on?

 

[jmacvols1]

I will continue to call out your lying and pretending that none of those people in the Trump admin (and Trump himself) created this monster.

You will continue to repeat whatever the last thing that came out of Trump's mouth.

I have talked about what Trump has said...go back and look at the video of Trump when asked about declassifying Epstein files..he said it would have to be looked at because there are phony stuff in things like the Epstein files, innocent people could get hurt. Bondi Vance and others talked about releasing a list but regardless of what they said the list cannot be released for reasons given.

So you think a list, even if a credible list even exists, should be released harming innocent people who maybe on the list, where it would probably be unable to prove guilt of other names on the list, setting off a storm of lawsuits just because you want to see names and nothing more? Are you a Dem who has TDS?

 

[MercyPercy]

Let's take a look at the not so distant past.



@jmacvols1 are you yourself one of the grifting influencers that was playing this up that you keep shifting blame on?

I have talked about what Trump has said...go back and look at the video of Trump when asked about declassifying Epstein files..he said it would have to be looked at because there are phony stuff in things like the Epstein files, innocent people could get hurt. Bondi Vance and others talked about releasing a list but regardless of what they said the list cannot be released for reasons given.

So you think a list, even if a credible list even exists, should be released harming innocent people who maybe on the list, where it would probably be unable to prove guilt of other names on the list, setting off a storm of lawsuits just because you want to see names and nothing more? Are you a Dem who has TDS?

Why are you peddling conspiracy theories to hurt Donald?

 

[jmacvols1]

Let's take a look at the not so distant past.



@jmacvols1 are you yourself one of the grifting influencers that was playing this up that you keep shifting blame on?

Can you prove a genuine list exists? Can you prove every name on such a list is guilty of pedophilia?

 

[jmacvols1]

Why are you peddling conspiracy theories to hurt Donald?

Go back to my #3,806 and see what a long time Fed prosecuter has said in the problems in prosecuting people over this. Not my conspiracies but words of a long time Fed prosecuter.

 

[MercyPercy]

Go back to my #3,806 and see what a long time Fed prosecuter has said in the problems in prosecuting people over this. Not my conspiracies but words of a long time Fed prosecuter.

You were literally posting the SAME EXACT shite that you are now shaming people for wanting to follow up on. You are a shameless flip flopping liar.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Comey’s Daughter Demanded A Federal Judge Seal Epstein Files​

The daughter of former FBI Director James B. Comey persuaded a federal judge last year to block the public disclosure of a trove of government evidence against Jeffrey Epstein and his associate, Ghislaine Maxwell, keeping hidden much of what is now considered to be the “Epstein files.”

Maurene Comey, whom President Trump fired without explanation this week, was one of the assistant U.S. attorneys in charge of prosecuting Maxwell and Epstein on sex trafficking charges. On Jan. 30, 2024, she urged U.S. District Judge Paul G. Gardephe to keep secret the thousands of pages of evidence compiled against the two after an extensive FBI investigation and Justice Department prosecution that resulted in Maxwell’s conviction.

The judge agreed, and the evidence remained locked down.

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www.washingtontimes.com

 

[jmacvols1]

You were literally posting the SAME EXACT shite that you are now shaming people for wanting to follow up on. You are a shameless flip flopping liar.

Attacking me personally proves nothing. What in the Epstein files you want released when you have no idea of what all is in the files.


What if a "list" of names is released. what then?????????

I have quoted from a Fed prosecutor who has said:

No "incriminating" client list.

No "credible" evidence of third party involvement.

"No evidence" and "No credible evidence" means there were allegations made by an investigation into the allegations showed them to be unfounded.

They have tapes of Epstein, and of child porn Epstein collected over time.

THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY EVIDENCE THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT THE FBI/DOJ HAS TAPES OF SEXUAL ACTIVITIES OF ANYONE ELSE.

Evidence matters -- not the fevered dreams of the Epstein Pedo Island Conspiracy crew.

 

[MercyPercy]

Go back to my #3,806 and see what a long time Fed prosecuter has said in the problems in prosecuting people over this. Not my conspiracies but words of a long time Fed prosecuter.

Everyone agress with this statement you made but what is there to do?

Can't release a list that maybe fake and damage innocent people? Even if a real list exist, it may have people['s name on it that did nothing wrong. A name on a list does not prove guilt. Releasing a list create defamation suits all day long.

Shipwreckedcrew was a long time Federal Prosecutor who has been demonstrating problems in prosecuting people:


Shipwreckedcrew
@shipwreckedcrew
21h


Particularly when many (Epstein's victims) continued on for long periods of time after they were 18. Two of the individuals identified by name as the co-conspirators who would not be prosecuted -- all 4 were women -- claimed to have been victimizing by Epstein when they were young, and THEN they went to work helping him.

No "incriminating" client list.

No "credible" evidence of third party involvement.

"No evidence" and "No credible evidence" means there were allegations made by an investigation into the allegations showed them to be unfounded.

They have tapes of Epstein, and of child porn Epstein collected over time.

THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY EVIDENCE THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT THE FBI/DOJ HAS TAPES OF SEXUAL ACTIVITIES OF ANYONE ELSE.

Evidence matters -- not the fevered dreams of the Epstein Pedo Island Conspiracy crew.

1.3.24 Epstein documents 943 pages

www.documentcloud.org

Mario Nawfal

@MarioNawfal
EPSTEIN FORCED MINOR TO HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH HARVARD LAW PROFESSOR ALAN DERSHOWITZ

Jane Doe #3 is a minor who was forced to have sexual relations with people on behalf of Epstein

"Epstein forced then-minor Jane Doe #3 to have sexual relations with former Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz, a close friend of Epstein’s and well-known criminal defense attorney."

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This you?