Jefferey Epstein found dead in jail cell

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lawgator1 said:
She has to get a court order to do so.

What is more telling is that a) its limited to grand jury testimony, which is a tiny, tiny, tiny portion of the entire file, and b) it is limited to that which Bondi determines is "pertinent."

Honest to God, is anyone fooled by the extremely narrow scope of that? I sincerely hope not.
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The narrow scope only raises my BS meter even more.

Of course, I am a skeptical a-hole according to several on here....
 
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MercyPercy said:
That being said, if Epstein did "belong to intelligence" and there was some blackmail scheme going on, which I don't find all that hard to believe, there's no doubt in my mind our own spooks at the very least knew about it and leveraged it if not being actively involved with it. The CIA doesn't really have a strong history of telling on themselves. And they can cry "national security risk" until the cows come home and they run out of black markers.
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When everyone has their hands dirty it's just leverage. When you have no leverage you get blackmailed
 
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jmacvols1 said:
I am talking about these so called "influencers" who make their living (and some make millions) off of nothing more than getting clicks...they will post anything, outrageous stuff just to make money.
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The money grubbing podcasters including his own son, his heads of the FBI, his attorney general and his vice president?
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
If it's not blackmail then why all the recording devices in the house? Also why the underage girls? And why was Epstein meeting with Israeli officials like Ehud Barak?

I'm curious why you guys are so hell bent on not believing the most obvious explanation for this whole scandal. That it was an intelligence operation. Intelligence ops aren't quid pro quos. There's usually a target and someone doing the targeting. You don't need to record your friends have sex with underage girls unless you plan to use that at a later date for leverage.
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I think you are missing the human side of this. Powerful people often develop powerful fetishes. There's more than one explanation for your examples. I'm not saying I believe you are incorrect,b at least completely. But you're missing out ignoring the most obvious possibility, that this guy was a sexual deviant who catered to other deviants.

And that was certainly leveraged by others.
 
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MercyPercy said:
The money grubbing podcasters including his own son, his heads of the FBI, his attorney general and his vice president?





I don't think those in gov't are monitized and make their living from posts. Those in the gov't use platforms to disseminate information. It's the influencers who have to keep anything and everything stirred up for that is how they make their money. A few weeks ago Trump was going to start WW3 if he bombs Iran, now it's Epstein and some different later on.
 
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jmacvols1 said:
MercyPercy said:
The money grubbing podcasters including his own son, his heads of the FBI, his attorney general and his vice president?





I don't think those in gov't are monitized and make their living from posts. Those in the gov't use platforms to disseminate information. It's the influencers who have to keep anything and everything stirred up for that is how they make their money. A few weeks ago Trump was going to start WW3 if he bombs Iran, now it's Epstein and some different later on.
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The obvious point you are either missing or intentionally ignoring is that the facts disagree with you on this one- it was not just radical YouTube influencers building it up. It was Trump's own administration and family. And it was Trump himself up until that awkward interview when he was wishy washy on it.
 
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MercyPercy said:
The obvious point you are either missing or intentionally ignoring is that the facts disagree with you on this one- it was not just radical YouTube influencers building it up. It was Trump's own administration and family. And it was Trump himself up until that awkward interview when he was wishy washy on it.
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Trump did nothing to build it up....influencers are upset they do not get all they want so they start conspiracy theories
 
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I suspect that most people on this board, even Trump supporters, if they were being honest would admit that based on how this has evolved it is more likely than not that Trump is in there and more so than a drawing and a Happy Bday message.
 
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jmacvols1 said:
Trump did nothing to build it up....influencers are upset they do not get all they want so they start conspiracy theories
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You are literally completely ignoring what I am saying and inserting your own fictional reality into the situation.

Dan Bongino, Kash Patel, Pam Bondi, JD Vance and Donald Trump Jr. all built it up. Do you deny that or are you saying they are all just social media influencers who are mad?

You keep sticking your fingers in your ears and saying it was only social media influencers. Trump himself implicated Bill Clinton previously.

This is the sort of dishonesty I expect from a cult member, I guess.
 
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MercyPercy said:
You are literally completely ignoring what I am saying and inserting your own reality into the situation.

Dan Bongino, Kash Patel, Pam Bondi, JD Vance and Donald Trump Jr. all built it up. Do you deny that or are you saying they are all just social media influencers who are mad?

You keep sticking your fingers in your ears and saying it was only social media influencers. Trump himself implicated Bill Clinton previously.

This is the sort of dishonesty I expect from a cult member, I guess.
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I get the gist we probably disagree on most things, but yes anyone not criticizing Trump for this is in the wrong. I think it's been quite relieving to see so many conservatives criticize him. Now if only we could get the lefties to stand up against quite literally any of the bizarre BS their side pushes.
 
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jmacvols1 said:
The judge does have last say so on it. What if the Judge says 'no', what will all the Epstein conspiracy theorists do then? Just say the Judge is behind the cover-up? Social media influencers upset they want make any money by not having grand jury testimony to post?

There is nothing here anyway as Trump has said.
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Then why in the F has Bondi, Bongino, Patel, and Trump all played it up at times when it suited them? Bondi made a big deal of it while in office. Trump made references to it regarding Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew. I voted for Trump; he was exponentially better than the other option. But he’s used this when it suited him, now wants to act like it’s bs when it doesn’t.

Trump has done mostly what he promised but the transparency and accountability isn’t there on this. Bondi should bare minimum walk back her statements and handling of this.
 
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‘The Letter Is Meaningless!’: Chris Cuomo Torches WSJ Over Trump-Epstein ‘Hack Job’​


NewsNation host Chris Cuomo criticized The Wall Street Journal (WSJ) on Thursday for its piece alleging that President Donald Trump sent deceased pedophile Jeffrey Epstein a suggestive letter for his 50th birthday in 2003.

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“I get that he’s pissed off, okay? And he’s not wrong. This Wall Street Journal piece is a hack job, okay? … I mean, it’s so stupid, okay?” Cuomo said. “The Epstein story is about abusing kids who didn’t have the power or agency to do anything about it, that rich and powerful people may have known it was going on, and they got away with it. That’s the story, okay? It’s not that Trump liked a scumbag, okay?”

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'The Letter Is Meaningless!': Chris Cuomo Torches WSJ Over Trump-Epstein 'Hack Job'

Chris Cuomo criticized The Wall Street Journal for its piece alleging that Donald Trump sent Jeffrey Epstein a suggestive letter for his 50th birthday in 2003.
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Chris Cillizza Says WSJ Epstein Story Is Actually ‘Good Thing For Trump’​


NewsNation political contributor Chris Cillizza argued on Friday that The Wall Street Journal’s Thursday report alleging that President Donald Trump sent deceased pedophile Jeffrey Epstein a suggestive letter is benefiting the president politically with his base.

“Let me explain why I think this is actually a good thing for Trump. Because it unites, I think, a split MAGA base. There is nothing that unites the Make America Great Again movement more than quote-unquote fake news,” Cillizza said. “Or the mainstream media being out to get Donald Trump. That is the role that he is seizing on right now — role of victim, role of target. He has denied everything in the story.”


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Ex-CNN Analyst Says WSJ Epstein Story Is Actually 'Good Thing For Trump'

Chris Cillizza argued that The Wall Street Journal's piece alleging that Donald Trump sent Jeffrey Epstein a suggestive letter is benefiting him.
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