Jefferey Epstein found dead in jail cell

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Vol8188 said:
You’ve lost me. He’s asking to have more released. How’s that bad?
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He's now calling it a scam by the Democrats when he and his appointees ran on releasing the files. This is why rational MAGA folks are saying Trump is a fraud. He must think his supporters are idiots when he and those around him spent years hyping up the Epstein scandal and now he's acting like its a fabrication by the democrats.

Reasonable Republicans are finally seeing him for the fraud he's always been.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
He's now calling it a scam by the Democrats when he and his appointees ran on releasing the files. This is why rational MAGA folks are saying Trump is a fraud. He must think his supporters are idiots when he and those around him spent years hyping up the Epstein scandal and now he's acting like its a fabrication by the democrats.

Reasonable Republicans are finally seeing him for the fraud he's always been.
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You in no way even attempted to address the question. Solid work
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
It's not a bad thing for him. With that being said, the evidence being presented to a grand jury is usually a fraction of the total evidence in a case...
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Exactly. All you have to do in a grand jury is present evidence that a crime probably occurred. The standard of proof is probable cause. Definitely not beyond a reasonable doubt. Which would be required to get a criminal conviction. And not even preponderance of the evidence which is the standard to find someone liable in civil court.

Basically whatever is revealed tomorrow is irrelevant. It wouldn't even comprise 10% of the evidence used at court. Also since the grand jury evidence pertained to the allegations against Epstein it wouldn't include evidence against other co-conspirators. So it won't actually go towards what everyone really wants to know which is who else was involved. The grand jury would have only been presented evidence of Epstein and/or Maxwell's probable guilt. Not who else might be involved.
 
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Vol8188 said:
You in no way even attempted to address the question. Solid work
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You asked why it was bad. I told you. Cause he keeps acting like this was a Democrat fabrication when he himself was selling the Epstein cover-up to his base. This is why most honest Trump supporters are confused. They're asking why are the files all of a sudden fake when you ran on releasing them once elected?
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
You asked why it was bad. I told you. Cause he keeps acting like this was a Democrat fabrication when he himself was selling the Epstein cover-up to his base. This is why most honest Trump supporters are confused. They're asking why are the files all of a sudden fake when you ran on releasing them once elected?
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He’s saying to release them. You seem to misunderstand the “it”. The “it” was a tweet from him today saying to release the information
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
He's now calling it a scam by the Democrats when he and his appointees ran on releasing the files. This is why rational MAGA folks are saying Trump is a fraud. He must think his supporters are idiots when he and those around him spent years hyping up the Epstein scandal and now he's acting like its a fabrication by the democrats.

Reasonable Republicans are finally seeing him for the fraud he's always been.
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You didn't answer his question at all. That was a useless post.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Do you even read links before posting them? She was involved in a minor crash, without injuries, and lied about it claiming she only had four days to live.

Then she committed suicide one month after claiming she only had four days to live from a car crash that had no reported injuries.

I never said she was an adult the entire time. You claimed only minors were involved so he could black mail people. I pointed out that she was 19 when he paid for her massage school in Thailand.

Lmfao 6 years is just further confirmation of the conspiracy right? Even when the evidence points away from conspiracy “they’re just doing that so it isn’t as obvious!”
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So you choose to not believe the victim of sex trafficking but instead the government that is currently trying to cover-up evidence of the rape of over 1000 girls? You can dismiss Virginia Giuffre all you want. I believe her account of the accident and I believe her father when he says she didn't kill herself. The people I don't believe are those trying to convince us that Jeffrey Epstein raped over 1000 women by himself and there were no other co-conspirators.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
If that letter is true then Trump knew Epstein was running a child sex trafficking operation. He may not have partaken in the child rape but knowledge of said acts and doing nothing makes him just as culpable.
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There is nothing in that letter that suggest child sex trafficking. You are projecting. And it's dumb.
 
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Vol8188 said:
He’s saying to release them. You seem to misunderstand the “it”. The “it” was a tweet from him today saying to release the information
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And then what does he say? Thats it's a scam by the democrats. So he wants Pam Bondi to release documents related to a "scam"? That's the part rubbing his supporters the wrong way. He's framing the release as an irrelevant exercise when he ran on releasing ALL documents related to the Epstein case. Not just "pertinent" grand jury proceedings. Which is almost meaningless if you know anything about law. He's dumping these irrelevant documents because of all the heat he's getting from his base on this. He must think they're stupid enough to fall for this trick.
 
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volfanhill said:
There is nothing in that letter that suggest child sex trafficking. You are projecting. And it's dumb.
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So what do you think Trump meant when he wrote "and may every day be another wonderful SECRET". What is the "secret" he's alluding to? The only secret we know about Epstein that came out following that letter is his child sex trafficking ring.

So please tell us what Trump could be talking about especially given how badly he's tried to keep the Epstein files from being released.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
So what do you think Trump meant when he wrote "and may every day be another wonderful SECRET". What is the "secret" he's alluding to? The only secret we know about Epstein that came out following that letter is his child sex trafficking ring.

So please tell us what Trump could be talking about especially given how badly he's tried to keep the Epstein files from being released.
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I have no clue. And neither do you. I mean no way billionaires could have secrets they share besides raping children. You are totally right


You owe Duke an apology for lying about having a degree from them. You make them look bad.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
So what do you think Trump meant when he wrote "and may every day be another wonderful SECRET". What is the "secret" he's alluding to? The only secret we know about Epstein that came out following that letter is his child sex trafficking ring.

So please tell us what Trump could be talking about especially given how badly he's tried to keep the Epstein files from being released.
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@lawgator1

Don't agree with it. But this is would be why Trump is fighting this. You have morons who's just automatically say this is proof of Trump raping kids. This is how idiots think. My advice to Trump is him trying to suppress makes this look bad. But I get it.
 
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lawgator1 said:
He has said he won't appoint a special prosecutor....

I don't know what it is. A video, an interview with a victim that mentioned him as involved, an actual list ... but dont pretend that lack of a video is the standard by which this is judged.

This is judged by Trump CLEARLY amd REPEATEDLY ducking and avoiding release of the documents. The only legitimate question is why. And there's only one plausible answer.
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So you think that even though Comey’s daughter prosecuted the Epstein and Maxwell cases, Trump was somehow able to keep damaging info out of the public realm during a bitter and divisive election? That seems far fetched to me.
 
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volfanhill said:
@lawgator1

Don't agree with it. But this is would be why Trump is fighting this. You have morons who's just automatically say this is proof of Trump raping kids. This is how idiots think. My advice to Trump is him trying to suppress makes this look bad. But I get it.
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Letter doesn't prove anything. Calling it a bombshell report was a huge stretch.

If it is real, it's still incredibly weird and creepy considering what we know about both of these men. I'm not worried about how embarrassed Trump might feel if he's in the files in weird little capacities like this. It's not getting him convicted of anything. Show the goods imo.
 
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MercyPercy said:
Letter doesn't prove anything. Calling it a bombshell report was a huge stretch.

If it is real, it's still incredibly weird and creepy considering what we know about both of these men. I'm not worried about how embarrassed Trump might feel if he's in the files in weird little capacities like this. It's not getting him convicted of anything. Show the goods imo.
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Show the goods or Trump can F off. And the people who support him bc they believe it's "good vs evil", or pizza gate, or Q can all eat a dick
 
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VAVol85 said:
So you think that even though Comey’s daughter prosecuted the Epstein and Maxwell cases, Trump was somehow able to keep damaging info out of the public realm during a bitter and divisive election? That seems far fetched to me.
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Unless there are powerful people, very wealthy people, from both parties, implicated.
 
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Republicans are blocking the release of the files; they can go to hell with their grandstanding faux outrage about protecting the children and whatever other bulls**** they spew while they protect this orange POS.
 
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