Jefferey Epstein found dead in jail cell

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

What specific evidence are you talking about that screams “sexual blackmail”?

Jeffrey Epstein accuser says his house had cameras "monitoring private moments"

Maria Farmer, who is suing the Epstein estate, says she saw cameras being monitored throughout his Manhattan home

www.cbsnews.com

Epstein had his entire house bugged. Every room including the bathrooms had listening and recording devices. Put one and one together. He's inviting rich powerful men to his place where there are underage girls and recording devices everywhere. Intelligence officers call it a honeypot operation. Its designed to catch these powerful people in compromising positions and then using that information to blackmail them.

Once again are you totally clueless about the Epstein case or intentionally trying to mislead?

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

I had a post earlier that listed a few things and one of ideas my friends and I had thought at least "plausible" is there was evidence that implicated people (exactly who is speculative) but when the heat was known to be coming that particular information was taken/scrubbed. That doesn't "unhappen" anything but is another possible explanation for why this or the last administration wouldn't be able to produce any actual evidence.

It would seem that your insertion of high level intelligence operatives into the mix might actually make that as likely as not from your POV.

If that was the case then they would just release what they had and tell us some evidence was destroyed. But that isn't what they're saying. They're saying there's nothing to see and to just trust them.

And for the record, they say they have lots of videotapes of people doing bad things to underage girls. Unless you believe all the videos are just of Jeffrey Epstein there's no way around the fact they have evidence of others doing crimes and instead of prosecuting they are hiding the evidence.

 

[MercyPercy]

I had a post earlier that listed a few things and one of ideas my friends and I had thought at least "plausible" is there was evidence that implicated people (exactly who is speculative) but when the heat was known to be coming that particular information was taken/scrubbed. That doesn't "unhappen" anything but is another possible explanation for why this or the last administration wouldn't be able to produce any actual evidence.

It would seem that your insertion of high level intelligence operatives into the mix might actually make that as likely as not from your POV.

I think a lot of people also want to know what Trump means by phoney stuff, hoax, not credible, ahem.. *checks notes* created by Obama and Biden. It sounds like he's saying there is additional info they haven't released because they believe it's fake, or doctored, or something? Who knows? Can he expound on that?

Can we... investigate that.

 

[MurphyVol]

there are about 3 other "jane does" who make claims there were others.

one suit from 2019, one from 2021, and I can't find the last date except that it is "older" than the 2019 allegations.

Virginia Giuffre is not the first victim to end up dead after making allegations.

The 2016 Jane Doe filed suit that named Trump and Epstein.

 

[volbound1700]

I definitely have a theory on why this happens but at work and don't have time to share. Like my post to remind me and I will share ( I need to cite to several Bible verses). In summary, I think the Devil and demonic entities are behind it all.

So McDad, here is my theory on why people in power are so corrupted and evil.

First off, I believe in the Devil and Demons. Based on the verse below, they are very much on this Earth. Hell doesn't exist yet according to Christian Lore and won't until judgment:

I: Peter chapter 5: 8-9

8Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: 9Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.
In the Bible, it is recording often that people can get possessed or even tempted to evil by devils. There is also an interesting story in Ezekiel. It is found in Ezekiel 28. I am not going to post as the entire chapter is relevant but here is the link: Ezekiel 28 KJV

Clearly when Ezekiel is prophesying to the King of Tyre, it gets into language that sounds like it has nothing to do with a local ruler. Here are some exerts:

Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God verse 13
Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; verse 14
Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. verse 15
Basically Ezekiel talks to this ruler as if it is God talking to Satan according to most descriptions. This, to me, indicates that Satan was in control (either by influence or even direct possession of this King).

Then there is a well known Bible story about Jesus' temptation in Luke Chapter 4.

5 The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. 6 And he said to him, “I will give you all their authority and splendor; it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to. 7 If you worship me, it will all be yours.”
8 Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.’[c]”

Most people don't ponder on one reality about this specific temptation. The devil HAD THE POWER to give Jesus control of the world. I don't think this was some frivolous offer. Had Jesus said "yes", the Devil cold have given Him the World.

Then there is this verse in Ephesians 6:12


12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

There is more that I can continue to point out from the Bible. It is clear that the Devil and his demons are here in the world. It was the authorities that killed the prophets in the Old Testament. Ever King of Israel and most of the Kings of Judah were wicked and followed not God. It was the authorities that had Jesus crucified, his apostles persecuted, and inflicted horrors on the early church.

Often, people in power, will even behave illogically at the expense of defying God. I truly don't think these people even know why they support evil, it is put into them.

Why is every song and song artist lyrics about trash and ever focus on indecency from the entertainment industry?

Why is Christianity either persecuted or miss-used for evil by most Government entities throughout history?

Why defend LGTBQ+ stuff if not to defy God? It gives you very little political points, LGTBQ+ can't reproduce and truly don't offer anything tangible to humanity.

Why cover up priests molesting children in the Catholic Church if not for the intervention of something sinister.

It all comes down to the fact that there is a real spiritual war out there. There isn't some cabal of humans running this stuff like Qanon said. It isn't Jews like Dobbs4Heisman is railing about. It is people being influenced by darker powers that even they may not understand.

If we were honest about America, the greatest tragedy we face as a nation is that we have countless millions dying every year that are standing before judgment and being sent to Hell because they were deceived their entire life by lies that were likely originated and started by the Devil.

 

[hndog609]

I think a lot of people also want to know what Trump means by phoney stuff, hoax, not credible, ahem.. *checks notes* created by Obama and Biden. It sounds like he's saying there is additional info they haven't released because they believe it's fake, or doctored, or something? Who knows? Can he expound on that?

Can we... investigate that.

As far as that goes you won't hear me arguing against releasing what there is sitting around. Trump's flailing now could be nothing more than him trying to downplay how his administration leaned into being the people that were going to shine the light on things like The File. There is immense dissatisfaction with the "there's nothing to see here" take that's come out. So much so even if it's completely honest the optics are terrible and that guy's ego does not handle bad optics well.

I just don't like getting too far out over my skis on who is/isn't guilty beyond what I know. Epstein was stone cold locked as a bad guy. The guy was very famous and made a point of associating with LOTS of known people. Guilt by association is dubious business, albeit a very popular one. (not just this incident)

Personally if it were me (and I knew I was clean) I'd appoint a special prosecutor and not just make a show of "releasing the files" but make a point of digging...or at least appearing to do so.

 

[Vol8188]

Jeffrey Epstein accuser says his house had cameras "monitoring private moments"

Maria Farmer, who is suing the Epstein estate, says she saw cameras being monitored throughout his Manhattan home

www.cbsnews.com

Epstein had his entire house bugged. Every room including the bathrooms had listening and recording devices. Put one and one together. He's inviting rich powerful men to his place where there are underage girls and recording devices everywhere. Intelligence officers call it a honeypot operation. Its designed to catch these powerful people in compromising positions and then using that information to blackmail them.

Once again are you totally clueless about the Epstein case or intentionally trying to mislead?

There’s nothing to put together. You’re making an insanely wildly leap again. Notice she mentioned no one other than Epstein. It’s a reoccurring theme. Numerous accusers in the criminal case and none of them claimed to have been abused by anyone else

Rather it sounds like a really creepy man who liked to have his encounters recorded

 

[evillawyer]

 

[Vol8188]

$5 says in a week we learn that all Mar a Largo members get a personal bday card every year

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

You're looking at it through the wrong lens. Think quid pro quo, no one is blackmailed when everyone has dirt on everybody else. It's the elite protecting their ilk. You see this as an Israeli problem, the ice berg is largest beneath the surface.

If it's not blackmail then why all the recording devices in the house? Also why the underage girls? And why was Epstein meeting with Israeli officials like Ehud Barak?

I'm curious why you guys are so hell bent on not believing the most obvious explanation for this whole scandal. That it was an intelligence operation. Intelligence ops aren't quid pro quos. There's usually a target and someone doing the targeting. You don't need to record your friends have sex with underage girls unless you plan to use that at a later date for leverage.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

It's widely believed Mossad whacked Maxwells dad. I don't see her getting in bed with them.

That's news to me. All I've heard is he was considered a legendary spy for Israel and was given an state funeral by the government. Why would they heap such praise on him if they whacked him?

Also the biggest piece of evidence Epstein was a Mossad asset is how his wealth came outta nowhere. The guy was worth billions yet nobody knew how he made his money.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Are you menstruating? It seems like it.

I never claimed there was only one victim. I can tell you Virginia G is the only one I’m aware of who specifically named anyone else. I can also tell you the criminal case named no one else.

What specifically do you believe is being swept under the rug?

And can you name any of these women who have presented evidence? Or just lawsuits?

You do know Virginia G is dead right? Run over by a truck. Maybe that has something to do with why the other 1000 victims aren't naming names.

We know there are over 1000 victims according to the Feds. You think only Epstein raped them? Use common sense. Obviously we don't have every detail. But if there are over 1000 victims. And the only one to tell her story publicly was run over by a truck. Then maybe we shouldn't be surprised there aren't others out there naming names. Especially considering how the government is protecting the perpetrators rather than the victims.

 

[MercyPercy]

As far as that goes you won't hear me arguing against releasing what there is sitting around. Trump's flailing now could be nothing more than him trying to downplay how his administration leaned into being the people that were going to shine the light on things like The File. There is immense dissatisfaction with the "there's nothing to see here" take that's come out. So much so even if it's completely honest the optics are terrible and that guy's ego does not handle bad optics well.

I just don't like getting too far out over my skis on who is/isn't guilty beyond what I know. Epstein was stone cold locked as a bad guy. The guy was very famous and made a point of associating with LOTS of known people. Guilt by association is dubious business, albeit a very popular one. (not just this incident)

Personally if it were me (and I knew I was clean) I'd appoint a special prosecutor and not just make a show of "releasing the files" but make a point of digging...or at least appearing to do so.

I get it, but I also think the fear of presuming guilt by association is a little overplayed in this situation. As you stated, he was friends with many, many important people. And we know and have known about their association with him for a long time. We know people who were on the plane. And other than the embarrassment of being involved with such a freak, no one seems to have been found guilty of anything. But other than that they seem to be doing okay. One of them is the current President of the United States. His association with Epstein still didn't stop him from winning the election bigly.

Does that make sense? I guess frankly I'm not worried about if people are embarrassed their names are associated with the guy. Just being associated isn't getting anyone prosecuted so far.

 

[Vol8188]

If it's not blackmail then why all the recording devices in the house? Also why the underage girls? And why was Epstein meeting with Israeli officials like Ehud Barak?

1. Creepy dudes like to record women.

2: that’s not even remotely true. Plenty of the women were of age and his relationships with these women who were underage continued after they were of age

3. Because he intentionally met with numerous prominent people. That’s what con artists do. Then he can say “I manage funds for” and name drop several people to make himself seem legit

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

There’s nothing to put together. You’re making an insanely wildly leap again. Notice she mentioned no one other than Epstein. It’s a reoccurring theme. Numerous accusers in the criminal case and none of them claimed to have been abused by anyone else

Rather it sounds like a really creepy man who liked to have his encounters recorded

Once again. A truck hit the only person to name anyone other than Epstein. And now she's dead. Obviously Epstein is the fall guy. The ones being protected are the elites who were the targets of the blackmail.

Here are facts we know about: (1) There are allegedly over 1000 victims. (2) Epstein was inviting tons of rich powerful people to his island. (3) There were tons of recording devices in his home.

Unless you think he raped all 1000 victims by himself and all those rich powerful people were hanging out with him simply cause he's such a great guy then I don't what to tell you. It isn't some grand leap to say this was probably a honeypot operation where he trafficked young girls to get rich powerful men in compromising positions. The fact the government seems to be going to such great lengths to cover it up only lends more support to the theory.

 

[Vol8188]

You do know Virginia G is dead right? Run over by a truck. Maybe that has something to do with why the other 1000 victims aren't naming names.

We know there are over 1000 victims according to the Feds. You think only Epstein raped them? Use common sense. Obviously we don't have every detail. But if there are over 1000 victims. And the only one to tell her story publicly was run over by a truck. Then maybe we shouldn't be surprised there aren't others out there naming names. Especially considering how the government is protecting the perpetrators rather than the victims.

She killed herself. She was not ran over. Show me examples and evidence.

 

[Vol8188]

Once again. A truck hit the only person to name anyone other than Epstein. And now she's dead. Obviously Epstein is the fall guy. The ones being protected are the elites who were the targets of the blackmail.

Here are facts we know about: (1) There are allegedly over 1000 victims. (2) Epstein was inviting tons of rich powerful people to his island. (3) There were tons of recording devices in his home.

Unless you think he raped all 1000 victims by himself and all those rich powerful people were hanging out with him simply cause he's such a great guy then I don't what to tell you. It isn't some grand leap to say this was probably a honeypot operation where he trafficked young girls to get rich powerful men in compromising positions. The fact the government seems to be going to such great lengths to cover it up only lends more support to the theory.

Yes, I do think he did. If 1000 women were raped (a lot of issues with that claim), I have a feeling it was by Epstein.

You think this creep was pimping women out to others and not using them himself? Obviously that’s far less believable.

If there were 1,000 victims, there’d be people naming names. Virginia was not ran over as you proclaim. She committed suicide

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

1. Creepy dudes like to record women.

2: that’s not even remotely true. Plenty of the women were of age and his relationships with these women who were underage continued after they were of age

3. Because he intentionally met with numerous prominent people. That’s what con artists do. Then he can say “I manage funds for” and name drop several people to make himself seem legit

So you think Epstein acted alone. He alone raped 1000 girls and recorded them for his own enjoyment. If that's the case why is our government going to such great lengths to not release the files then? If its one depraved man acting alone why would Trump and the Republicans risk losing the midterms to hide this?

I'm sorry but where there's smoke there's fire. All our elected officials wouldn't be trying to cover this up if it was just Epstein doing the crimes. There's obviously other people involved that they don't want us to know. Its the only thing that explains why they are willing to risk so much political capital to keep those files secret.

 

[Vol8188]

So you think Epstein acted alone. He alone raped 1000 girls and recorded them for his own enjoyment.

I don’t understand your question. If 1,000 women were raped (I don’t buy that), yes, he would have raped all of them if he acted alone or not. He’s not going to pimp them out and never partake.

If that's the case why is our government going to such great lengths to not release the files then? If its one depraved man acting alone why would Trump and the Republicans risk losing the midterms to hide this?

Release what specifically? They’ve released a lot of information. I’m not convinced there’s that much we haven’t seen. What specifically do you think we are missing?

I'm sorry but where there's smoke there's fire. All our elected officials wouldn't be trying to cover this up if it was just Epstein doing the crimes. There's obviously other people involved that they don't want us to know. Its the only thing that explains why they are willing to risk so much political capital to keep those files secret.

I don’t think there’s anything to cover up. So no I don’t think anyone is going out of there way to cover anything up

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

She killed herself. She was not ran over. Show me examples and evidence.

You mean after she said she wasn't gonna kill herself because being suicided is par for the course when you go against intelligence agencies.

Virginia Giuffre's Chilling Tweet About Not Being 'Suicidal' And 'Evil People' Resurfaces After Her Death

Virginia Giuffre, a vocal accuser of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, tragically took her own life in Western Australia.

www.yahoo.com

She said she wasn't gonna commit suicide. Also her father says she didn't commit suicide. Virginia Giuffre: Epstein Victim's Father Says She Didn't Commit Suicide, 'Someone Got to Her'

Once again I gotta know. Are you totally clueless about this case or are you intentionally lying at every turn to mislead people? Anyone whose been following this case should know Virginia denied being suicidal because she knew what comes when you go against the elite.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Yes, I do think he did. If 1000 women were raped (a lot of issues with that claim), I have a feeling it was by Epstein.

You think this creep was pimping women out to others and not using them himself? Obviously that’s far less believable.

If there were 1,000 victims, there’d be people naming names. Virginia was not ran over as you proclaim. She committed suicide

If he raped 1000 women by himself, why is the Trump administration willing to risk so much political capital to hide those files? If there was no one else involved why not release that evidence so everyone can move on. Instead Trump and Republicans are willing to potentially lose the midterms by hiding the Epstein files that 80% of their own base wants released?

How does anything the Trump administration has done surrounding Epstein make any sense if he's the only perpetrator?

 

[Vol8188]

You mean after she said she wasn't gonna kill herself because being suicided is par for the course when you go against intelligence agencies.

Virginia Giuffre's Chilling Tweet About Not Being 'Suicidal' And 'Evil People' Resurfaces After Her Death

Virginia Giuffre, a vocal accuser of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, tragically took her own life in Western Australia.

www.yahoo.com

She said she wasn't gonna commit suicide. Also her father says she didn't commit suicide. Virginia Giuffre: Epstein Victim's Father Says She Didn't Commit Suicide, 'Someone Got to Her'

Once again I gotta know. Are you totally clueless about this case or are you intentionally lying at every turn to mislead people? Anyone whose been following this case should know Virginia denied being suicidal because she knew what comes when you go against the elite.

You told me she got ran over by a truck? Weird not to even admit you’re wrong and immediately swivel to more conspiracies.

Virginia’s last few months on earth were wild and showed obvious signs of mental health issues. Investigation showed no signs of foul play.

She was also an adult (you claimed they only involved minors so they could bribe people) when Epstein paid for her to learn massage in Thailand (another thing you were wrong about, and just immediately swiveled to more conspiracies).

Yes, 6 years before committing suicide she said she wasn’t suicidal. So your notion is they let her say these things for six years and then decided when she was going through a divorce, that was the right time?

 

[evillawyer]

MAGA! This story is gonna be a banger.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

You told me she got ran over by a truck? Weird not to even admit you’re wrong and immediately swivel to more conspiracies.

Virginia’s last few months on earth were wild and showed obvious signs of mental health issues. Investigation showed no signs of foul play.

She was also an adult (you claimed they only involved minors so they could bribe people) when Epstein paid for her to learn massage in Thailand (another thing you were wrong about, and just immediately swiveled to more conspiracies).

Yes, 6 years before committing suicide she said she wasn’t suicidal. So your notion is they let her say these things for six years and then decided when she was going through a divorce, that was the right time?

Her car was hit by a bus. Its been a while since I looked at that particular fact. I just knew it was ridiculous like everything else involving Epstein. https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/31/uk/virginia-giuffre-bus-accident-prince-andrew-epstein-latam-intl

I'm sure the investigation found no evidence of wrongdoing. The same people who could get a President to not release files at great cost to him politically surely couldn't get a coroner to give a cause of death they wanted.

Virginia Giuffre was actually 17 in that famous picture with Prince Andrew. Virginia Giuffre v. Prince Andrew - Wikipedia

17 is the age of consent in New York but she alleges Epstein was flying her all around the country. And his second residence was in Florida where the age of consent is 18. So no she wasn't an adult in every jurisdiction. She was a minor in Florida where a bunch of Epstein's crimes occurred.

With regard to the 6 year gap, wouldn't it be more suspicious if you killed her immediately after Epstein died and she made that tweet? Doesn't waiting a few years to tie up loose ends sound more like how an intelligence hit job would operate. Especially when the goal isn't to shut up Virginia Giuffre but rather to discourage any other victims from coming forward.

 

[evillawyer]

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