Jefferey Epstein found dead in jail cell

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Sandman 423 said:
Technically he didn't lie. He was ask if he had an affair or sexual relationship.
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He did have a sexual relationship and an affair. Not sure what you’re saying here.

The argument Clinton was trying to make wasn’t that he didn’t have a sexual relationship, but rather that it had ceased. Therefore he tried to argue that when answering the question he took it to mean an active/current sexual relationship rather than a past relationship.

The problem with that argument though is he answered the question in the past tense. “I did not have a sexual relationship” rather than the present “I am not having a sexual relationship”

His second argument was that he didn’t count oral sex as a sexual relationship

The man 100% lied
 
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BeardedVol said:
The efforts you guys are going through to try to deny Trump's relationship with Epstein is wild to behold in real time.
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The efforts you go through to link Trump to Epstein's crimes despite Trump being exonerated by one of the victims and knowing the Democrats controlled these same files for years is wild to behold in real time.....
 
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The efforts you go through to link Trump to Epstein's crimes despite Trump being exonerated by one of the victims and knowing the Democrats controlled these same files for years is wild to behold in real time.....
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Going all in after they lost power is a hill to die on. But we also saw Dems dressed as frogs the other day. What a great time to be alive.
 
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volfanhill said:
That he knew Epstein was abusing minors and did nothing about it until after the fact. Real class act

"The police chief, Michael Reiter, cited Trump as having told him: "Thank goodness you're stopping him, everyone has known he's been doing this."
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Did that phone call come before or after he kicked him out of the club?
 
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volfanhill said:
Does it matter? He said he knew what Epstein was up to and by his own words did nothing.
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Just going by the previous posts, I thought he said everyone knew what was going on. And by that, I take it to mean a lot of people moving in those circles. So did only Trump know or did a lot of other people know as well? For example, do we think it probable that Bill Clinton knew? Obama? Biden? Bush?
 
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GroverCleveland said:
The phrasing of that first sentence is a bit odd. Could you clarify the meaning?
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Happy to.

Epstein investigation:

Jeffrey Epstein was not formally charged in 2006, but in 2005-2006, police in Palm Beach, Florida, began investigating him for sexual abuse. This investigation followed a parent's report regarding a 14-year-old girl, which subsequently led to a 2008 conviction for procuring a child for prostitution.


Trump reached out to police and this is what happened

In July 2006, as Epstein's first sex crime charges became public, the police chief in Palm Beach, Florida, received a call from Trump, according to the summary of a 2019 FBI interview with the police chief that was among the files.
The police chief, Michael Reiter, cited Trump as having told him: "Thank goodness you're stopping him, everyone has known he's been doing this."


So it was public that minors were making accusations against Epstein

Trump called police chief and says "everyone knows he's been doing this"

Trump knew Epstein was screwing around with minors
 
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volfanhill said:
Does it matter? He said he knew what Epstein was up to and by his own words did nothing.
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It does for the relationship factor the left is hanging onto.

Call prior he’s aware and close to the situation.
Call after, he’s cut all connections. Should he have said something, absolutely. As everyone else who knew in area.

He kicked him out in the early 2000’s and the call came in 2006.
 
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Majors said:
It does for the relationship factor the left is hanging onto.

Call prior he’s aware and close to the situation.
Call after, he’s cut all connections. Should he have said something, absolutely. As everyone else who knew in area.

He kicked him out in the early 2000’s and the call came in 2006.
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So you agree he shouldn't have protected someone he knew to be abusing minors. And your still a supporter? Cool
 
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Happy to.

Epstein investigation:

Jeffrey Epstein was not formally charged in 2006, but in 2005-2006, police in Palm Beach, Florida, began investigating him for sexual abuse. This investigation followed a parent's report regarding a 14-year-old girl, which subsequently led to a 2008 conviction for procuring a child for prostitution.


Trump reached out to police and this is what happened

In July 2006, as Epstein's first sex crime charges became public, the police chief in Palm Beach, Florida, received a call from Trump, according to the summary of a 2019 FBI interview with the police chief that was among the files.
The police chief, Michael Reiter, cited Trump as having told him: "Thank goodness you're stopping him, everyone has known he's been doing this."


So it was public that minors were making accusations against Epstein

Trump called police chief and says "everyone knows he's been doing this"

Trump knew Epstein was screwing around with minors
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Okay, thank you.

Now, I did post subsequently about Trump claiming everyone knew and whether it was probable that only Trump knew or that others in that peer group knew as well. What do you think?
 
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GroverCleveland said:
Okay, thank you.

Now, I did post subsequently about Trump claiming everyone knew and whether it was probable that only Trump knew or that others in that peer group knew as well. What do you think?
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I think he knew and stayed silent bc he didn't want questions thrown his ways

I have not seen enough to claim Trump is a pedo or someone who screwed minors.

His own actions during this file release lead me to believe he's a protector of these people.

His own words tell me he protected one for sure. I don't know his motivation and don't really care.
 
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volfanhill said:
So you agree he shouldn't have protected someone he knew to be abusing minors. And you’re still a supporter? Cool
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Believe my stance has been to prove he’s connected with abusing girls. And then we can talk where my support is.

Hate to say it this way, but it seems Trump removed him and forgot about him. I believe he along with anyone connected could have stepped forward back in the early 2000’s.
 
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volfanhill said:
I think he knew and stayed silent bc he didn't want questions thrown his ways

I have not seen enough to claim Trump is a pedo or someone who screwed minors.

His own actions during this file release lead me to believe he's a protector of these people.

His own words tell me he protected one for sure. I don't know his motivation and don't really care.
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My question wasn't about Trump. We have now known for years he knew about Epstein's ways. It was about who else knew around that time. We take it for granted Trump knew because of the statement he made. But that statement included "everybody knew." Do we think Trump told the truth about knowing and lied about everybody else knowing? Do we think Trump lied entirely and neither he nor anyone else knew? Or was it just as Trump said, everyone knew?

And if so, who else do you think knew? I spelled it out. Clinton, Bush, Obama, Biden? I'll even add King Charles. I'd bet pretty good money British intelligence knew. Think they would have hid it from Charles?
 
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