Jefferey Epstein found dead in jail cell

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lawgator1 said:
Opening the door.

In other words, by campaigning on it, they invited evidence and argument about it.
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Okay, let's try to have a serious discussion about it.

If there was really any smoke or fire at all regarding Trump with Epstein's shenanigans, it would have come out during the campaign I believe. Do you not think so?

Agree with you that he campaigned on it and they ran their mouths about it. Isn't it plausible they got in office, saw what was actually in the files and had an "oh, crap!" moment? They got way out over their skis and have a bunch of egg on their face?

Looks to me like they handed a campaign issue to their opposition and are between a rock and hard place. Keep under a lid stuff that may not belong out in the public and take the political heat for that OR disclose what really is in the files including the aforementioned not-suitable-for-publication and get hammered for disclosing state secrets?

Seriously, what do you think? What would be your advice?
 
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LSU-SIU said:
You are asking for evidence because of orange man good, throw out huge generalization to my posts. You tell me?



All of the documents are hearsay. This isn't evidence of any kind, its simply documents on a server. I never pretended everything in those files are the truth. But if DOJ provides a document in accordance of law that it came from the FBI pointing out 10 co-conspirators that they're trying to find -> I would take that as at least truthful from their pov.

If you have something specific to talk about, I am all game but you ask for him to be. evidence yet provide nothing in return.
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There is more collaborating evidence that Trump was not involved then involved.... So it's not orange man good or bad... It n orange man not guilty like you want...I can provide that if needed..
 
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whodeycin85 said:
They're is not collaborating evidence that Trump was not involved then involved.... So it's not orange man good or bad... It n orange man not guilty like you want...I can provide that if needed..
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I've never said that, I said he is a pedo protector at best, I never said he was engaged himself.

Yes, what you are doing is orange man good.
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
No, I didn’t. Like I said to the other person, everyone’s been brainwashed to have this “my side” vs “your side” when all of us should despise pedophiles. People on the extreme left would defend their own too just like MAGA is right now. That’s the problem, we should all hate pedophiles left wing or right wing. But good argument, continue supporting your pedo
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It’s sad that the pedo term has been hurled around like the term racist. It diminishes the term to commodity status by folks that are passionate about an issue but struggle with articulation. I’ve been guilty of doing it to.

We should and could all step back and realize that something just feels “off” with the ruling class on both sides. I think both sides have some extremely powerful people that are very very guilty of some very bad things.

The problem needs daylight to shine on it and heads need to roll. But both sides are protecting the machine.

I like a lot of Trumps policies and hate a lot of the left’s. Trump has lost points with me in the handling of the Epstein situation.

I’m not going to hurl a turd back at you to score some fictitious VN points. I hope you realize that there are Trump supporters that agree with many things he is doing, but are awake enough to call out things we don’t agree with.
 
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The administration has further earmarked 200,000 documents due to privilege, in addition to all the redactions.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1426091/dl

This would be a prime example of the problems they continue to create.
Age Verification | United States Department of Justice

As far as I can tell this was a government operation to have elites having sex with prostitutes and children, Maxwell really had nothing to do with Epstein after about 2009-2010, which she testified to. There is really not much in there about her after that time frame -> meaning Epstein did all this by himself even though there are pics of all kinds of people?

What is he Santa Claus.

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whodeycin85 said:
There is more collaborating evidence that Trump was not involved then involved.... So it's not orange man good or bad... It n orange man not guilty like you want...I can provide that if needed..
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Corroborating evidence. Spell checker probably got you on that one. But the word you're wanting is corroborating.
 
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Trump is basically outing himself as a pedo protector. Meaning he is saying lots of bad things happened on the island and he is implying Bill Clinton is involved in it yet he hasn't hasn't prosecuted anyone for any criminal conduct that went on there or in connection with the island. Epstein had multiple properties in the U.S. as well.

Epstein's indictment claims their are recruiters that were involved it obtaining the girls for sex, none of these people have been prosecuted. Certainly not for things connected with the "island".
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/press-release/file/1180481/dl

This isn't going to go away with magic and he will continue to be called a Pedo Protector for a reason. It clearly wasn't just one person doing all this. This took a whole organization of people once people look at the files.
 
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Vol8188 said:
You believe anyone mentioned in the files in any way should be investigated? You’ve lost me
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You're lost because I never said anything such thing old man, go put yourself in a home or something. Context is clearly a problem for you. Any investigation should have generated a 302s, if investigations were done... there would be 302s as to those. If there were no investigations, that would explain no 302s.

I'm sorry you guys got a case of the Orange Man Good Syndrome, that's not my problem.

Documents which were already public already provide the problem -> there are other co-conspirators and they are not disclosing the documents on that and they are redacting the names on the files.
 
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Pretty much what I have said, there is cradle to grave on investigations, yet the documents don't exist.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Trump is basically outing himself as a pedo protector. Meaning he is saying lots of bad things happened on the island and he is implying Bill Clinton is involved in it yet he hasn't hasn't prosecuted anyone for any criminal conduct that went on there or in connection with the island. Epstein had multiple properties in the U.S. as well.

Epstein's indictment claims their are recruiters that were involved it obtaining the girls for sex, none of these people have been prosecuted. Certainly not for things connected with the "island".
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/press-release/file/1180481/dl

This isn't going to go away with magic and he will continue to be called a Pedo Protector for a reason. It clearly wasn't just one person doing all this. This took a whole organization of people once people look at the files.
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Ghislaine Maxwell, his Chief of Recruitment is behind bars right? She was the main connector for his operation.
 
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allstar34 said:
Ghislaine Maxwell, his Chief of Recruitment is behind bars right? She was the main connector for his operation.
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She testified she rarely even spoke with Epstein after 2009-2010, I would say the files basically seem like that. She thought she was free and clear because of the blanket plea deal.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Pretty much what I have said, there is cradle to grave on investigations, yet the documents don't exist.
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In the first minute of this video the gal starts with "we all know that Donald Trump sex trafficked underage girls to Epstein and Maxwell..."

Right there the video lost all credibility. It's BS. Do better
 
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LSU-SIU said:
She testified she rarely even spoke with Epstein after 2009-2010, I would the files basically seem like that. She thought she was free and clear because of the blanket plea deal.
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Gotcha, I haven’t dug too deep into it. I just knew at one time she was his right hand (wo)man.
 
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