Jefferey Epstein found dead in jail cell

[Vol8188]

I don't think anyone can make too much sense of what you write to be honest. You got nothing, sorry. Not everyone's fault you voted for a pedophile, if you bring something to support your claim than I will take a look.

Where’s your evidence of your claim?

And what claim have I made?

 

[LSU-SIU]

Where’s your evidence of your claim?

And what claim have I made?

What claim are you referring to?

 

[Vol8188]

Claim 1.

Why would Epstein need a plea deal for others?

Claim 2.

It’s not my problem you voted for the pedo or pedo protector.

So far you’ve provided 0 to back up either claim

 

[LSU-SIU]

Claim 1.


Claim 2.


So far you’ve provided 0 to back up either claim

We'll is your position neither one happened?

 

[Vol8188]

We'll is your position neither one happened?

That’s not a claim. You making a claim doesn’t require me to provide evidence against your claim. It requires you to back up your claim.

 

[LSU-SIU]

That’s not a claim. You making a claim doesn’t require me to provide evidence against your claim. It requires you to back up your claim.

No, I am asking you a question. Answer the question.

 

[Vol8188]

No, I am asking you a question. Answer the question.

Without evidence of either claim, I can’t state that either is true. Do you have evidence of either or do you just want to talk in circles for no apparent reason

 

[LSU-SIU]

Without evidence of either claim, I can’t state that either is true. Do you have evidence of either or do you just want to talk in circles for no apparent reason

This isn't a court of law, I provided you a link on the first one, which you either can't read or refuse to read i.e. not working in good faith. As to number two, so is it your position that Trump was telling the truth that it was a hoax?

A forum is a place to discuss, without a position from which to discuss means you are trolling in this context, you are upset because Trump is a pedo or pedo protector, or in the case you outlined.... he's a criminal that indicted people for fun or other.

 

[Vol8188]

This isn't a court of law, I provided you a link on the first one, which you either can't read or refuse to read i.e. not working in good faith.

I read. Didn’t see anything claiming Epstein was just the fall guy. Where was it? You know the phrase you’re looking for, I don’t. Do you not know how to search a document?

As to number two, so is it your position that Trump was telling the truth that it was hoax?

You’re intentionally being nonspecific here. What exactly do you mean by “it”? There’s plenty of real and plenty of conspiracy nonsense involving the Epstein case. Specifically what do you want my opinion on?

 

[LSU-SIU]

I read. Didn’t see anything claiming Epstein was just the fall guy. Where was it? You know the phrase you’re looking for, I don’t. Do you not know how to search a document?


You’re intentionally being nonspecific here. What exactly do you mean by “it”? There’s plenty of real and plenty of conspiracy nonsense involving the Epstein case. Specifically what do you want my opinion on?

Please provide evidence I implied or said Epstein was a "fall guy".

You know the phrase you’re looking for, I don’t. Do you not know how to search a document?

I think you already forgot what you were asking for old man.

You’re intentionally being nonspecific here.

I think you are very upset by the whole discussion because of who you voted for.

Please provide any evidence of what I have said is not true.

 

[Vol8188]

Please provide evidence I implied or said Epstein was a "fall guy".



I think you already forgot what you were asking for old man.



I think you are very upset by the whole discussion because of who you voted for.

Okay. Enjoy wasting your own time. I’m out.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Okay. Enjoy wasting your own time. I’m out.

Yeah, its not too fun when someone comes out on a forum in bad faith is it?

Now go back to watching your pedo guy on Fox news.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Since the usual suspects woke up and started the name calling, I will ask this question again because I am curious of your thoughts on this subject: (note before you call me a Pedo protector or Trump worshipper or whatever other juvenile thing, actually have a logical response

So besides the obvious take that if Trump really had done something illegal (like actual child rape) in the Epstein files, the Biden Admin and DOJ/FBI, would've released that info as they were trying to get Trump in jail or gone for good the four years they had the files and kept them secret, one email really stood out to me in the files.

In 2017, Epstein emailed Michael Wolff (known Trump hater who used to be an insider and had written books to try to bring Trump down), and asked him for any dirt on Trump that Epstein could use because Trump had basically dumped him in social circles about 9 years earlier...

If Trump had actually been involved in this activity, why wouldn't Epstein himself have direct knowledge and proof of it?

 

[LSU-SIU]

Since the usual suspects woke up and started the name calling, I will ask this question again because I am curious of your thoughts on this subject: (note before you call me a Pedo protector or Trump worshipper or whatever other juvenile thing, actually have a logical response

So besides the obvious take that if Trump really had done something illegal (like actual child rape) in the Epstein files, the Biden Admin and DOJ/FBI, would've released that info as they were trying to get Trump in jail or gone for good the four years they had the files and kept them secret, one email really stood out to me in the files.

In 2017, Epstein emailed Michael Wolff (known Trump hater who used to be an insider and had written books to try to bring Trump down), and asked him for any dirt on Trump that Epstein could use because Trump had basically dumped him in social circles about 9 years earlier...

If Trump had actually been involved in this activity, why wouldn't Epstein himself have direct knowledge and proof of it?

It seems pretty simple at this point, he either was involved in this or similar action, and/or is protecting the ones behind it. However, it looks like there were other complaints to the FBI as to Trump which might not have even included Epstein, but some of them probably can be ruled out.

The other problem is, he is now saying it was a "hoax" -> they have someone in jail now on the "hoax", and apparently she has now been given access to additional information that seems to indicate additional secret deals (?) in addition to the original open Epstein plea deal.

And just like I said, in early 2025 that there should be trucks filled equivalent of documents, its an easy call to say not everything will be released.

It seems like a very simple question -> where are all the prosecutions?

My guess has been Trump probably wasn't included in this, but I don't know. Now what is harder to ignore is the whole situation in context including the original plea deal, and potentially more secret deals made outside of the justice system. (I'll await Maxwell's exhibit on this as its currently sealed)

 

[jmacvols1]

 

[Zues1]

Omg , bawahaha. What a mess

 

[Rickyvol77]

It seems pretty simple at this point, he either was involved in this or similar action, and/or is protecting the ones behind it. However, it looks like there were other complaints to the FBI as to Trump which might not have even included Epstein.

The other problem is, he is now saying it was a "hoax" -> they have someone in jail now on the "hoax", and apparently she has now been given access to additional information that seems to indicate additional secret deals (?) in addition to the original open Epstein plea deal.

And just like I said, in early 2025 that there should be trucks filled equivalent of documents, its an easy call to say not everything will be released.

I don't even like Trump and think he's playing politics with this....however the facts that Epstein was begging someone for dirt on Trump in 2017 and the fact that Biden's Admin didn't leak any of the files, let alone release them, leads me to believe this (I could be wrong just reading the tea leaves).

From the late 1980s-mid 2000s Epstein was a huge friend and mover with people from both sides of the aisles politically, including dozens if not a hundred tv stars, directors, movie stars, athletes, social media influencers, lawyers, doctors, etc...The rich elite and those who wanted to be seen and famous and rich.

Epstein used this to have outlandish parties and trips to his island, his ranch, and all over the world including everyone from Diddy to Oprah to Bill Clinton to Reid Hoffman, Bill Gates, Trump, etc.

These parties, especially on the island were sexual get aways and parties using tons and tons of young prostitutes and escorts (the majority of which were of age, but still some went willingly, some were naive, some were drugged etc....So there was a huge mix during these parties of orgies, people having sex, some rapes, some consensual sex, some women being pressured to have sex by famous people, or unknowingly if drugged...MOST of the girls were adult escorts (just like 95% of the women who have "come forward" to protest but either settled in the past for $ with NDAs, or just know they can't accuse someone famous of rape without actual proof)

I believe over the years, Epstein used these parties and maybe the threat of exposing some of the elites as leverage, (either for blackmail himself or for the CIA), and a LOT of people (including Trump cut ties with him socially at that time, around 2005-2009ish.)

I also believe that while most of the girls there were adult, Epstein and a smaller group of people did abuse and rape underage kids. Most of the evidence so far shows girls that were raped in the 12-17 range, and there are two many coincidences with the "pizzagate conspiracy" that turned out to be pretty spot on including the art that several elites had in their homes depicting child rape and the pizza emails and such.

I think the things remaining in the Epstein files haven't been released for embarrassing purposes to the elite on both sides, not actual criminal stuff (unless there was a NDA/Settlement with a victim out there which I doubt), and I think some elites (like Bush and Hillary Clinton for examples, wanted the files kept quiet because there was a lot of crazy unsubstantiated BS that was called into the FBI hotline by nutjobs but still had to be included in the files overall. (i.e. a psych patient from Kansas calling in and saying that Bush and Clinton raped and cut the feet off a kid for devil worship, or that Trump took a teenage raped girl he got pregnant and drowned her in lake Michigan) etc.

I don't like Trump and haven't voted for him although I DO agree with a couple of his views. And i'll be the first one to point out how petty and childish he is at times, but by the same breath, using LOGIC and REASON, it makes no sense for the Epstein email to Wolff or the Biden Admin not leaking Trump stuff if there were ACTUAL evidence he raped a child

 

[Smokey123]

I just can’t believe someone that raped girls as young as 14 and allegedly as young as 11 and someone in here refers to him as simply a “creep”

 

[utvolpj]

We really believing this one too?

 

[BreatheUT]

Problem is there is no proof..is all conjecture and unproven allegations.
It why a plea was reached as opposed to the very real possible option of losing both the Maxwell and Epstein trials..

This. That's what it boils down to. The people, conjecture, he said she said, Epstein now deceased, all of it makes for a reality this case would cost in the tens of millions and there is no real gotcha in it.

 

[Vol8188]

I just can’t believe someone that raped girls as young as 14 and allegedly as young as 11 and someone in here refers to him as simply a “creep”

Your evidence that someone as young as 11 was involved?

Until then, yes, creep. The word pedophile is thrown around to intentionally add to the size of the legend. Just like the email squirrel posted in here where he tried claiming they were disemboweling infants.

It just makes for a better story.

 

[Smokey123]

Your evidence that someone as young as 11 was involved?

Until then, yes, creep. The word pedophile is thrown around to intentionally add to the size of the legend. Just like the email squirrel posted in here where he tried claiming they were disemboweling infants.

It just makes for a better story.

Well if you’d read the actual lawsuits instead of lecturing people about something you’ve admitted to not reading any of you’d know.

Raping children isn’t simply a “creep”. But continue on with your bs it’s what you’re best at

 

[LSU-SIU]

I don't even like Trump and think he's playing politics with this....however the facts that Epstein was begging someone for dirt on Trump in 2017 and the fact that Biden's Admin didn't leak any of the files, let alone release them, leads me to believe this (I could be wrong just reading the tea leaves).

I don't like Trump and haven't voted for him although I DO agree with a couple of his views. And i'll be the first one to point out how petty and childish he is at times, but by the same breath, using LOGIC and REASON, it makes no sense for the Epstein email to Wolff or the Biden Admin not leaking Trump stuff if there were ACTUAL evidence he raped a child

The logical conclusion to that reasoning would be its a government operation or it was a foreign government operation which the U.S. government became aware of, either way to me the highest of criminal acts i.e. treason. My guess since I spoke about this earlier in 2025, was it was a government operation either jointly with the U.S. or separately.

Which would explain most if not all of it.

 

[LSU-SIU]

This. That's what it boils down to. The people, conjecture, he said she said, Epstein now deceased, all of it makes for a reality this case would cost in the tens of millions and there is no real gotcha in it.

Well, if the U.S. government says there are cases (with one conviction) and the head of the executive branch says its hoax, there appears to be some big problems.

This really isn't that complex at this stage.

Occam’s razor is
a philosophical, scientific, and problem-solving heuristic suggesting that when faced with competing hypotheses, the one requiring the fewest assumptions (the simplest) is usually correct.

 

[Vol8188]

Well if you’d read the actual lawsuits instead of lecturing people about something you’ve never admitted to not reading any of you’d know.

Raping children isn’t simply a “creep”. But continue on with your bs it’s what you’re best at

lol the civil lawsuits, of which there were nearly 50? I asked for evidence. There’s a reason none of this was included in the criminal trial. Because there was no evidence.

I also don’t believe anyone was forcefully raped.

lol you’re upset I didn’t read 47 civil lawsuits, but I’m the one with bs?