Jarnell Stokes projected in first round per Chad Ford

Martin was only ever good for scoring and his shooting efficiency came way down. Brewer has never been a good player. The only decent bench players are Turiaf and Dieng. Not a very good team, and good teams like Phoenix don't even go to the playoffs in the west. They would have been over .500 and in the playoffs with an East schedule.

They have some other decent bench players, it's just nobody can stay healthy. brewer is an above average defender and good in transition. JJ barea can provide a spark occasionally. Chase budinger is solid but can't stay healthy, Kevin Love and Pek are always battling to see who can miss more games with injuries. They've been talented enough to make the playoffs but they can't stay healthy enough.
 
No disrespect to Jordan, but any guy who walks away in his prime without a medical reason (like Magic had) is not a real man. And that's assuming you don't think he was secretly banned.
Jordan played with Bird, Magic, Isiah Thomas, Charles Barkley, Kevin McHale, Karl Malone, John Stockon, Clyde Drexler, Bill Lambier, Patrick Ewing, etc. etc. Etc. Everyone on that list is in the HOF.
I was only making that comment because the guy is such a fool he doesn't realize that three (and possibly more depending on Durant and others) of the greatest players of all time are playing right now in Lebron, Kobe, and Tim Duncan. All three are top ten all time, and any could finish in the top 5 with another ring, or in Lebron's case, a few more puts him higher. Just because they don't play in the late 80's to early 90's and one doesn't mean they aren't worthy of being in the discussion.
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you know he beat Magic for one of his rings right?
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i wasnt talking about the washed up lakers.....i was referring to the showtime lakers that had three Hall of Famers and a perennial all-star in its lineup. When Jordan started winning it began the era of one or two superstars and a bunch of role players being good enough to be champions. Before expansion diluted the talent level the basketball was much more entertaining and competitive imo.
 
Posted this on the combine thread but figured is drop it in here.

AdamZagoria: Mon 11:03am Former Tennessee big man Jarnell Stokes works out for Miami tomorrow, his agent tells @SNYtv
 
They have some other decent bench players, it's just nobody can stay healthy. brewer is an above average defender and good in transition. JJ barea can provide a spark occasionally. Chase budinger is solid but can't stay healthy, Kevin Love and Pek are always battling to see who can miss more games with injuries. They've been talented enough to make the playoffs but they can't stay healthy enough.

I think Barea and Brewer are both terrible. Brewer seems like he's built like Scottie Pippen, but he's so weak. He can only guard specific types of swings. He has no shot against guys like Lebron and Lance Stephenson. They will just take him under the basket and they'll kill him on the offensive glass, too.

I do like Budinger, but he's always hurt.

It's too bad everyone was injured in 2013, cause they had a decent first 6 with AK47, Budinger, and Brandon Roy.
 
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