Janzen Jackson Story - Sad

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peppervol said:
madbamahater said:
There are millions of hard-working, tax-paying, responsible adults in this country that would, vehemently, disagree with your post.
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They may do it but the evidence is being snuffed out by the government, investors, and people who know they can make killing off this new stream of revenue. At the same time ER marijuana related incident visits in Colorado have skyrocked. This will soon be reflected in a rise of cost in life, auto, and health insurance.
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Rockytoptn83 said:
It was stated that "pot doesn't make people kill". In this case, it did. She was high, and she killed her roomate for reporting her for smoking. She cared that much about it. You posting a story of someone not high killing someone wouldn't change the facts. People will kill, some high, some not. If this girl hadn't been a stoner, she wouldn't have ended up stabbing her roomate to death.
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I thought she stabbed her roomate for reporting her?
Had it been for theft or any other scholly ending violation, why do you think the outcome would have been different?
I don't think the pot "made her kill", I am going with mental issues on this one.
 
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onevol74 said:
peppervol said:
They may do it but the evidence is being snuffed out by the government, investors, and people who know they can make killing off this new stream of revenue. At the same time ER marijuana related incident visits in Colorado have skyrocked. This will soon be reflected in a rise of cost in life, auto, and health insurance.
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"ER marijuana related incident visits in Colorado have skyrocketed"?? Are you saying folks in Colorado weren't using before it was legal? I've been visiting Colorado for decades and everyone I knew was firing up. Ye know not....
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Rockytoptn83 said:
It was stated that "pot doesn't make people kill". In this case, it did. She was high, and she killed her roomate for reporting her for smoking. She cared that much about it. You posting a story of someone not high killing someone wouldn't change the facts. People will kill, some high, some not. If this girl hadn't been a stoner, she wouldn't have ended up stabbing her roomate to death.
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If weed was legal she wouldn't have stabbed her either. The girl was bascially going to have her Bball future and education taken from her over a little weed and acted in a fit of rage.
 
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And things are looking stable. As activists on both sides of the legalization debate in Colorado have conceded, the state's model is a work in progress. And while Colorado is far from the lawless hellscape skeptics predicted — Denver's crime rates have actually gone down since legal weed became available — authorities erring on the side of caution.


8 Months Since Legalizing Marijuana, Here's What's Happening in Colorado - Mic
 
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kunsanvol said:
Newsflash: The majority of college football players smoke weed. And 99% have no problems.
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Interesting......that tells me a head coach who can minimize pot use among his players gives his team an advantage. Go figure........:question::whistling:
 
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volgrad500 said:
It's amazing reading some comments and this article. People may want to blame UT, or weed (lol, seriously?) and the article tries to put a black eye on the judicial system. How about this-he was a grown man who had chance after chance given to him, and still chose to become a murderer.

Remember that thing we use to talk about, called personal responsibility?
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Amen bro. Although, hard to hold people responsible when they get hooked on weed. I hear one dose of that stuff is enough to send your life spiraling out of control.
 
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If he is mentally ill that would explain a lot of this. Obviously he could not kick drugs out of his life. It sounds like he had a lot more chances than most people can even dream of getting. And if he is a murderer how is that sad. I think a lot of addicts make a choice everyday to stay as they are. A lot want change a lot are just content it seems.
 
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We as humans have a free agency to make choices. Whether we are athletes or not, we make choices that affect our lives here on this earthly realm. We choose who we hang out with. We choose which school (university) to attend. We choose what we do in our spare time. You choose to take that first puff of a cigarette or a joint, your first drink. If you had the right upbringing, you might have a second thought as you make that choice. Janzen chose poorly(to quote an Indiana Jones movie). Everyone has a fringe "posse" they hang with. Sometimes the posse, instead of looking out for the star of the group, let them or abet them in getting into trouble. We are in troubled times. Everyone of us has to keep our guard up. There are temptations at every corner waiting on the weak ones to ruin their lives. As the article said he was on a fast track. Coaches can make a difference in athlete's lives. But at the end of practice, it's up to the Janzen of the world to use their better judgement. Maybe Dooley was above helping Janzen. The coach has 100 players he's responsible for. He can't babysit every one every day. Janzen made his choice and now he's paying for it. He had several chances to change his life and didn't. The onus is on him, not the coach or his parents. HE IS A Grown man... and yes it is sad...
 
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madbamahater said:
steelejacs said:
So with all of the gang shooting and other random shootings that happen daily in this country.........no one has been high on weed?

I bet the majority of shooters smoked that day..........

Stop trying to justify your bad behavior and poor decision making. Smoking pot is for losers
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Clueless, you are. How many murders have been committed while under the influence of alcohol? How many drunk driving incidents. I'm almost willing to bet you drink quite a bit.
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I remember Dooley keeping quiet about this. Looks like Dooley handled this situation with kid gloves. All kids need a chance so I'm glad UT gave him opportunity's to turn it around. Really a sad story.
 
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Kinda neutral on the pot thing, but it almost seems to me the "pot is harmless" group believes the world would be a better place if EVERYBODY toked.

Anybody that has drank, smoked pot, done a line, rode the white horse, etc., knows that different substances affect every individual in a different manner. Just because you become mr. Mellow mushroom after a bowl, doesn't mean the next person does.
 
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Minus the murder, kinda parallels the Tony Robinson story. A good guy who hangs with losers and gets in trouble. Who was that little bowling ball he hung with seen on the background of his Bowl interview who helped navigate his life into a down spiral?
 
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Volmorning said:
Kinda neutral on the pot thing, but it almost seems to me the "pot is harmless" group believes the world would be a better place if EVERYBODY toked.

Anybody that has drank, smoked pot, done a line, rode the white horse, etc., knows that different substances affect every individual in a different manner. Just because you become mr. Mellow mushroom after a bowl, doesn't mean the next person does.
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I mean, I understand what you're saying, but no one ever toked and decided they wanted to kill someone because of the weed. If they killed someone under the influence, they were bound to do it sober, as well.
 
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Vol_is_Lyfe18 said:
I mean, I understand what you're saying, but no one ever toked and decided they wanted to kill someone because of the weed. If they killed someone under the influence, they were bound to do it sober, as well.
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No argument from me, but I think you will agree that any mind altering substance in effect when you are making that crucial life decision to kill or not can't be a good thing.
 
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Volmorning said:
No argument from me, but I think you will agree that any mind altering substance in effect when you are making that crucial life decision to kill or not can't be a good thing.
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I guess...maybe a couple of thugs wanna get high before a drive by because they would think it's more fun...but the thought of prison for life would keep most stoners away.

Now uppers like meth and cocaine that infuriate users when they're experiencing withdrawal could be a different story.
 
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