Jalen Hurd cost UT Atlanta

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Evet Vols said:
In the next couple years if Butch wins SEC and makes playoffs but doesn't win it all people will still say - see I told you so etc. If he had won the East and lost to Bama it would have been see I told you this is his peak and injuries aren't an excuse. Even if he wins it all - they will say the team did it despite Butch and he can't do it again. There is no way to win with these silly NegaVols.
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All Butch had to do was win the east and nobody would be saying a word about change....
 
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Carl Pickens said:
I never said Hurd cost the team a trip to Atlanta. You're a "fahr Butch" disciple..... I get it..... a butt hurt champions of life cry baby.... what else has upset you this week? Did One Direction break up?
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No you said" garbage post is garbage"
Title of the thread is what??
I stated a different opinion and you , well quoted me and posted the above garbage,
So what else had upset me this week?
Just 1 more useless post of 16,000 + you have made
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
I've said this a dozen times in other threads. His s5itty attitude cost us 2 games.
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Then Jones needed to handle it and tell him to stay in Knoxville or hand out damn Gatorade.

There are faults on both sides here no one will ever know the truth
 
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Dudleys87 said:
Are you referring to Hurd throwing a fit and Jones not being able to refocus or Jones not having them focused coming off a bye week?


Either way it's classic Butch Jones
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"Classic Butch Jones" language suggest you have little to no knowledge of Butch's history coming off of bye weeks and or 10+ days to prepare. I was shocked at how poorly we played verses USCjr that is because Butch's record and history proves that he usually wins after such time off. And his teams often overachieve verses opponents who outmatch him. However because the USCjr game was so "out of the norm" for a Butch coach team I have to wonder if such a result was not caused by some external reason outside of a coaches "control" other then preparation and if it wasn't caused by external (or internal in this case) reasons this game was still an anomaly for Butch and not the norm we should expect.

The Hurd situation certainly contributed and in my eyes was a major factor in why the team looked so out of sorts and it's not surprising to see our offense clicking on all cylinders after Hurd left - we have not had any slow starts the past two games. Strange isn't it? What's the differance?

Now, This doesn't mean that Butch had the team prepared for certain verses USCjr - they certainly didn't have their minds right in that game (particularly Dobbs), but being so out of the norm does mean that you sir are flat out wrong about how that performance was "classic Butch." If anything. It's a head scratcher which takes more then "Butch sucks" to explain it.
 
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Dudleys87 said:
Was Jalen a problem? Most likely


Jones was also the problem.

You can't just say one or the other.
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Except for the team has looked more focused and like a team since Hurd left. The only way you can say Butch is part of the problem IMO is if you say he didn't recognize Hurd being a cancer early enough and kick him off the team earlier in the season before it escalated to the point it was at usc.
 
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BJSforVols said:
Except for the team has looked more focused and like a team since Hurd left. The only way you can say Butch is part of the problem IMO is if you say he didn't recognize Hurd being a cancer early enough and kick him off the team earlier in the season before it escalated to the point it was at usc.
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That's exactly what I meant.
If Hurd was beginning to be a problem or already was why the wait and not just cut loose?
 
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madbamahater said:
I just wish Butch woulda left his ass in Knoxville before leaving for Columbia, SC. Or, as soon as he pulled himself out of the SC game and quit on his teammates, Butch shoulda sent him straight to the locker room.

What a punk ass move. You could just see the body language on the sideline and with the whole team that game.
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Ridiculous
 
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Vol74 said:
You let them be the judge of that. Know that they'll do their homework A LOT better than the sheep on VolNation.
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I don't have to let anyone do anything. That's the thing. You're on a message board. So I will continue to discuss whatever I feel like. And whether you realize it or not, your opinion is no more informed than anyone else on here that you refer to as sheep. And there's nothing sheepish about me you wannabe gangsta.
 
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#172
So will Hurd be able to play immediately at a Div 1 school or sit out a year to learn how to be a WR/TE then play his Sr year in 2018?
 
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Hurd will bounce from arena league team to arena league team looking for a break thanks to his meddlesome step dad that gave him horrible advice.
 
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BeecherVol said:
You have a poorly coached football team that reared its ugly head against SC. That's why you re not going to Atl.

If it makes you feel better to drop this on anything other than that, go ahead. You can be wrong.
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Spot on. It took me awhile,but I've came to the realization that we aren't a well coached team.
 
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BJSforVols said:
Except for the team has looked more focused and like a team since Hurd left. The only way you can say Butch is part of the problem IMO is if you say he didn't recognize Hurd being a cancer early enough and kick him off the team earlier in the season before it escalated to the point it was at usc.
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This. Coddling Hurd cost us at least one game. I also believe it was the reason for our early season, first half problems. We had a divided locker room.

His arse should have been sent packing much earlier. It is Butch's fault for not having the b@lls to hand him a suitcase.
 
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