Jalen at 242?

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Gandalf said:
Completely false. The more muscle you have, the greater amount of buffer you have to protect your soft tissues. Whe I got a partial ATL tear several years ago, my legs were smaller than they had been when I was squatting 400+. When I felll, more torque came to my knee because my thigh could no longer protect it and mitigate the tension.

Now, if you want to argue that more muscle = more weight or greater speed and those
things increase injury possibilities, i.e. you are more likely to get injured falling while going 12 miles per hour than 8 - that could be true. Basically muscle protects.
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You shouldn't have skipped leg day
 
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CarbonVol said:
I was reading a interview from a few weeks ago and it said Jalen was now at 242 pounds. I saw a picture of Derrick Henry a few weeks ago saying he was at 244. He looks wayyyyy bigger than Hurd. His arms are as big as Jalens legs.
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Some folks can put on weight and not look "huge".


Luckily my lean body mass counteracts my fatness :good!:
 
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Not sure what the OP is talking about here. I was on the 2nd row and saw him up close multiple times. Looks every bit of 240+......
 
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swamprat#10 said:
I fear that gaining that much muscle mass will make him much more susceptible to an injury. Even with Kamara he is one of the players we can afford to lose. See the last 3 quarters of the Candy game if you don't agree
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What? If I wanted to read bro-science then I would've went to a bodybuilding forum
 
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swamprat#10 said:
I fear that gaining that much muscle mass will make him much more susceptible to an injury. Even with Kamara he is one of the players we can afford to lose. See the last 3 quarters of the Candy game if you don't agree
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When he played vs Vandy, at the end of the season, it was reported he was down to 215

Also, it was a fluke that he didn't finish the Vandy game according to Vol74....took a helmet to the jaw.
 
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Gandalf said:
Completely false. The more muscle you have, the greater amount of buffer you have to protect your soft tissues. Whe I got a partial ATL tear several years ago, my legs were smaller than they had been when I was squatting 400+. When I felll, more torque came to my knee because my thigh could no longer protect it and mitigate the tension.

Now, if you want to argue that more muscle = more weight or greater speed and those things increase injury possibilities, i.e. you are more likely to get injured falling while going 12 miles per hour than 8 - that could be true. Basically muscle protects.
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Ligaments don't get larger/stronger with increased muscle mass. They are under more stress.
 
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KBVol said:
When he played vs Vandy, at the end of the season, it was reported he was down to 215

Also, it was a fluke that he didn't finish the Vandy game according to Vol74....took a helmet to the jaw.
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Also by the Vandy game he had run the ball nearly 170 times behind a less than stellar line...as a freshman.
 
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huskyvol said:
So gaining muscle makes you more susceptible to injury? I don't understand the reasoning behind that at all. Can someone confirm this?
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I called Gary, he said he wasn't commenting on this one.
 
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ZippyMorocco said:
Ligaments don't get larger/stronger with increased muscle mass. They are under more stress.
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I'm not disagreeing with that statement, but more muscle does help protect them. I'm on crutches with a plautea fracture, and the Dr said if I hadn't been going to the gym regularly it would've probably tore something worse also. Barely got a little tear in the meniscus, but he said the muscle saved more damage. That's just what he told me, I'm not a Dr and he may be crazy.
 
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swamprat#10 said:
I fear that gaining that much muscle mass will make him much more susceptible to an injury.
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What kind of injury? Ruptured tendon, torn ligament, avulsion fracture, bone fracture, muscle tear? I am just curious here!

Gandalf said:
Completely false. The more muscle you have, the greater amount of buffer you have to protect your soft tissues. When I got a partial ATL tear several years ago, my legs were smaller than they had been when I was squatting 400+. When I fell, more torque came to my knee because my thigh could no longer protect it and mitigate the tension.
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In your response to Swamprats post...you are correct. There is a ton of research that has produced data indicating increased muscle mass equates to a decrease in injury potential (in this case I am only referring to collegiate athletics). Of course, there are inherent risks in performing strenuous exercise in the first place. That is why we have a S&C coach who has credentials out the wazoo(sp?) and over twenty years of experience!

ZippyMorocco said:
Ligaments don't get larger/stronger with increased muscle mass. They are under more stress.
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In short, you are wrong! But right at the same time! But I am not sure if you know why you are partially correct! no disrespect intended.

Quick anatomy....ligaments originate from bones and insert to bones. Tendons originate from muscle and attach to bones. But that is somewhat irrelevant to this topic b/c both tendons and ligaments are very similar in composition. Most of the soft tissue in our body is made of two proteins....Collagen and Elastin. The ratio of those two basically determine whether it has bone, skin, arteries, tendons, ligaments,or muscle characteristics.

The point is that tendons and ligaments DO/CAN grow in girth. And they do this as a response to having to constantly adapt to changes in resistance exercises taking place in advanced strength programs. It's an adaptation response. Basically, they adapt as the body's muscles adapt to increased resistance over a period of time (i.e. weights on a bar in a gym). That being said, tendons and ligaments respond differently in strength training due to growth mechanisms and blood flow.

They adapt by an immune response issued by the body which promotes growth by basically enticing new proteins to come and produce new collagen strands to incorporate themselves into existing fibril strands thus gaining in size.

Some research has shown that individual collagen helicies do not get, in themselves, bigger....but that constant strength training adds more and more fibers increasing the size of the fiber matrix. Other research is showing that some exercises can slightly increase the diameter of an individual strand, add new fibers to existing matrix, as well as increasing the tightness in which a fibril matrix (bundle) are held together. All this happens in a properly managed PROGRESSIVE strength regimen and is proven to increase soft-tissue strength.

Other research shows that you can directly increase ligament and tendon strength and size by shortening the range of motion (ROM) in a given exercise. Like doing 1/4 of a bicep curl or squat or leg extension. This is a nutshell it can get fairly complicated but that is why we have a S&C coach that gets paid b/c he knows what he is doing.

So, ligaments and tendons DO get "larger" and "stronger". They do get stressed more but that is what promotes their growth....very similar to lifting weights.

I had to do some checking b/c i had forgotten some things over the years. The National Strength and Conditioning Association, American Council on Exercise, and the American College of Sports Medicine were most helpful!
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Derrick Henry has skinny legs while Jalen has a more robust lower body.
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