Ive never written an attack on a Vol, till today

#52
#52
Nocleats said:
I've been a Vol since the sixties, late sixties. I've always supported the Vols and always tried to remember they are just college kids who chose to wear orange, I was no saint in the 70s or 80s and have a fairly liberal view of current laws and rules , but here goes!!

Danny Obrien, you are a selfish ass! Knowing that this team had such potential with only a few Sr leaders, you chose tho be a party boy. You failed your 3RD Drug test during this years teams extreme gauntlet of games.

No you weren't our most talented DTackle, but you were a good one who played like a 5th year SR should play. You were maybe our best run stuffer,

You got hurt, and I'm sorry for that, but, lets look at what your selfishness and dismissal caused.

It forced K Mac and S Tuttle(even more) to play many more downs than they needed to and the outcome, Both hurt for the season. Would they have been on the field if you were playing, who knows? But I do know that Tuttle was truly only supposed to see 20 or so snaps a game for the most part..

So before players break team rules, ( Dude you could smoke 24-7 in another 52 days) think about the team.. and what your selfish thinking does to the team...
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I was gonna play football but then I got high.
 
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#53
#53
Maybe the drug-testing of college athletes is more stringent than it needs to be.
College kids of my generation almost all smoked the occasional joint.
There's no evidence that a single football game was lost because of it.
 
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livefaith said:
Remember mary jane aint addictive. I know a friend whose been smoking daily for 35 years and has never gotten addicted. He almost always makes his bed and picks up so his mom won't have to do it, nowadays. Should put the stuff in cereal so kids can be healthier and more successful.

Like the above said, never chastise anyone for being selfish when they are on drugs. Never! Rest assured it's always someone else's fault. After all it is almost impossible to find even the most scant warning concerning mind altering drugs in our society. So, how could a person possible know what they are getting into. Plus there's practically nowhere to get help if addicted.

Danny probably deserves some sort of courage award I would think. :good!:


</sarc> just in case
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I appreciate the lightheartedness. The rationale for not blaming people for drug issues is that often there are circumstances to drive them to use. People just don't pick up meth and say, well let's give this a go. There is often lack of education, environmental circumstances, other mental issues, etc to drive someone to such a lowly state. But then again, that is out of the scope of discussion. It is easy to judge someone for something like that and very difficult to empathize because people that abuse have such a terrible label. These people usually aren't what you think they are. They are typically war veterans, athletes, students, middle aged adults seeking pain relief, etc that use. It's so easy to dismiss those that use as junkies, but often addicts are not like that.

I know you don't mean that users are to blame for everything with your sarcastic post. I know you are just trying to fill in some middle ground, but often times there isn't anyone to blame for someone becoming addicted to something because the circumstances people find themselves in are junctures in their life where they may find themselves helpless.
 
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Alright I'll be quiet now. A topic like this, however, I have to make my business. It is my career. I want to stop addiction, even if that sounds ridiculous. I want to teach people more about this crap and why it is awful, what it does to you, etc. at the same time blaming people for their habit doesnt help anything, especially if it is someone that we once looked up to (and still should IMO).
 
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coffeevol said:
No one gets addicted to pot.
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This! It's a choice! It's not meth or crack !
Some people are just stupid I know and work with people who smoked it for years but quit to get and keep a job while others tryed to get away with it even they knew what would happen if they got tested and lost there job
 
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Iam4utalways said:
In Tn it's against the law, what about in Colorado, where it's legal?
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It doesn't matter if it's against the law (it does but just for argument sake) but if it is against team rules or NCAA rules, then don't do it. It's that simple. If UT has in their rules you can't eat cheese while on the team don't eat cheese.
 
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GVol1966 said:
This! It's a choice! It's not meth or crack !
Some people are just stupid I know and work with people who smoked it for years but quit to get and keep a job while others tryed to get away with it even they knew what would happen if they got tested and lost there job
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Blue font?
 
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jlindsa4 said:
Go look up cannabis use disorder. Then try to deny years of research that claim pot has addictive causing tendencies. Then try to explain to the federal government why addiction research on cannabis should no longer be funded. Here is a small sample

http://s3.amazonaws.com/academia.ed...=A_randomized_controlled_trial_of_brief_c.pdf

I don't know if you have access but at least the title is in the hyperlink. Regardless, you shouldn't blame someone for any sort of drug use without knowing him or the circumstances. You simply don't know their situation and you sure as heck are no expert in addiction research.
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You are right. I'm no addiction expert. Let's just assume for arguement's sake that this young adult was full blown addicted to pot. He had free medical care and a full team of support people at his disposal and chose not to deal with it. The addictive substance is not to blame when the person chooses not to seek help.
 
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93TNVol said:
You are right. I'm no addiction expert. Let's just assume for arguement's sake that this young adult was full blown addicted to pot. He had free medical care and a full team of support people at his disposal and chose not to deal with it. The addictive substance is not to blame when the person chooses not to seek help.
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I agree with that. I have no idea what people are thinking for why they choose to use, but a lot of those that see that it is ruining their life, they want to stop. Not all people are like that, I understand. At some point though, I would assume that a high percentage of addicts want to quit but can't. Then again, that may just be my optimism. There may be a study on that. I'll have to check sometime. But football now. Football now. Speaking of addictions . . .
 
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Orange Studs said:
He just told you in his post. Can you read? OHHH from Bama never mind withdraw my question that answers it.
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Not from Alabama just live there. And he didnt say how old he was, just how long he has been a fan. But ill explain my comment for those of you that find it difficult to understand...OP is an old man and should be more mature than to attack a kid that plays football on a team he cheers for. In other words, Grow Up. DOB, made is mistakes and will have to live with them. He fessed up and didnt cry or make excuses, so leave him alone. You know what he owns us fan? Nothing.
 
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93TNVol said:
You are right. I'm no addiction expert. Let's just assume for arguement's sake that this young adult was full blown addicted to pot. He had free medical care and a full team of support people at his disposal and chose not to deal with it. The addictive substance is not to blame when the person chooses not to seek help.
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Just on another point, completely unrelated. I would support legalization of marijuana, given that it be kept in bars. I think of alcohol is legal, marijuana should be too. Despite all the deaths both potentially cause each year. The rational behind this is that there is something to stress relief. As long as many have the ability to use with moderation, there are even health benefits to pot use. Alcohol on the other hand, a recent report has shown that alcohol in of itself has no health benefits. The antioxidants in wine do help, but they are found in the other infredients, not in alcohol. If only we all had that control. Some of us are just screwed as soon as we taste the stuff for the first time. Genetics can be unforgiving.
 
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livefaith said:
Remember mary jane aint addictive. I know a friend whose been smoking daily for 35 years and has never gotten addicted. He almost always makes his bed and picks up so his mom won't have to do it, nowadays. Should put the stuff in cereal so kids can be healthier and more successful.

Like the above said, never chastise anyone for being selfish when they are on drugs. Never! Rest assured it's always someone else's fault. After all it is almost impossible to find even the most scant warning concerning mind altering drugs in our society. So, how could a person possible know what they are getting into. Plus there's practically nowhere to get help if addicted.

Danny probably deserves some sort of courage award I would think. :good!:


</sarc> just in case
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Lmao everyday for 35 years
 
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fade route said:
So he risked his entire future and the team's future for just some harmless fun, huh. His behavior proves that it is.
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You ever know any high school kids that go out and drink on a Friday or Saturday ? But not a drop during the week, and maybe went with the family on vacation so couldn't drink on a weekend, so no drinking for 2 weeks? No withdrawals, not addicts just like to have a little fun some times!
Sometimes they get in a car and drive and kill someone! A terrible choice that ruins lives but does not mean they are addicted !
 
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Nocleats said:
I've been a Vol since the sixties, late sixties. I've always supported the Vols and always tried to remember they are just college kids who chose to wear orange, I was no saint in the 70s or 80s and have a fairly liberal view of current laws and rules , but here goes!!

Danny Obrien, you are a selfish ass! Knowing that this team had such potential with only a few Sr leaders, you chose tho be a party boy. You failed your 3RD Drug test during this years teams extreme gauntlet of games.

No you weren't our most talented DTackle, but you were a good one who played like a 5th year SR should play. You were maybe our best run stuffer,

You got hurt, and I'm sorry for that, but, lets look at what your selfishness and dismissal caused.

It forced K Mac and S Tuttle(even more) to play many more downs than they needed to and the outcome, Both hurt for the season. Would they have been on the field if you were playing, who knows? But I do know that Tuttle was truly only supposed to see 20 or so snaps a game for the most part..

So before players break team rules, ( Dude you could smoke 24-7 in another 52 days) think about the team.. and what your selfish thinking does to the team...
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So hes not getting his life championship ring?
 
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Nocleats said:
I've been a Vol since the sixties, late sixties. I've always supported the Vols and always tried to remember they are just college kids who chose to wear orange, I was no saint in the 70s or 80s and have a fairly liberal view of current laws and rules , but here goes!!

Danny Obrien, you are a selfish ass! Knowing that this team had such potential with only a few Sr leaders, you chose tho be a party boy. You failed your 3RD Drug test during this years teams extreme gauntlet of games.

No you weren't our most talented DTackle, but you were a good one who played like a 5th year SR should play. You were maybe our best run stuffer,

You got hurt, and I'm sorry for that, but, lets look at what your selfishness and dismissal caused.

It forced K Mac and S Tuttle(even more) to play many more downs than they needed to and the outcome, Both hurt for the season. Would they have been on the field if you were playing, who knows? But I do know that Tuttle was truly only supposed to see 20 or so snaps a game for the most part..

So before players break team rules, ( Dude you could smoke 24-7 in another 52 days) think about the team.. and what your selfish thinking does to the team...
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Thanks for sparing everyone for so long
 
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