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I hope it was from accurate sites because I went to a lot of different ones. They have 8 returning starters on a defense that was ranked 51st in total and that is with Auburn and Missouri on their schedule. The offense has 4 starters returning from an offense that was ranked 23rd in total, which includes a dual threat qb and the best rb and wr in the league returning. They lost a lot of starting offensive lineman but the replacements are comparable to ours in size. One ol is a little small in today's standards at 274. The coaching carousel has connections with 2 hc in the sec. That might help in some preparation by getting a little inside info on us.
I'm not saying that we won't win, but we could be in for a better fight than most are expecting. Couple that with our young team thinking all we have to do is show up and win could spell disaster. I think if we stick with the run we could wear them down on the defensive line due to the fact that the seconds on the depth chart are all freshmen. This info has tempered my enthusiasm some. I predict a 32 to 22 win for us. I hope it's more but I'm not predicting more than a ten point victory for us.
If anyone wants to do their own research feel free to enlighten me why I'm wrong. (Minus all the psycho babble that has no basis in facts)
 
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they have a front 7 that goes 224,252,268,284,214,225,196..small. Averages about 237lbs compared to Utah State's 260lb. Run the ball!!
 
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Just like I predicted for usu. It's another blow out. Final score 45-13. As good as they might have been last year is not the sec. Butch has this team well disciplined and as long as we don't make mistakes, good things will follow.
 
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RiseToTheTop said:
we will and we will throw it well but thats also the strength of their team. You have to run the ball better. I think they will this week.
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I agree with you there. 2 yards a carry isn't going to cut it. But Arkansas State's front 7 won't be nearly as good as Utah State's was so I expect we'll get better production from the run game
 
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RiseToTheTop said:
they have a front 7 that goes 224,252,268,284,214,225,196..small. Averages about 237lbs compared to Utah State's 260lb. Run the ball!!
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Yeah, I looked at that. But they run 3 man front, I'm assuming they will be very active with run stunts and twists with their lbs. I hope it doesn't confuse our lineman too much. That can be scary with an inexperienced line that just replaced a tackle.
 
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SmoothCriminal said:
I agree with you there. 2 yards a carry isn't going to cut it. But Arkansas State's front 7 won't be nearly as good as Utah State's was so I expect we'll get better production from the run game
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The front 7 for USU is legit. Always has been. Its just as good as a few other teams we will see. They just dont have the back end together. But yes This is a good weekend to make it a point to run the ball more efficiently.
 
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roddo518 said:
Yeah, I looked at that. But they run 3 man front, I'm assuming they will be very active with run stunts and twists with their lbs. I hope it doesn't confuse our lineman too much. That can be scary with an inexperienced line that just replaced a tackle.
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USU runs a 3-4. They were pretty multiple but thats their defense. But i agree with ya. We will see Saturday.
 
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Did anyone else notice there were a bunch of words to the immediate right OP's avi?

J/K

Good info about the opponent.
 
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roddo518 said:
I hope it was from accurate sites because I went to a lot of different ones. They have 8 returning starters on a defense that was ranked 51st in total and that is with Auburn and Missouri on their schedule. The offense has 4 starters returning from an offense that was ranked 23rd in total, which includes a dual threat qb and the best rb and wr in the league returning. They lost a lot of starting offensive lineman but the replacements are comparable to ours in size. One ol is a little small in today's standards at 274. The coaching carousel has connections with 2 hc in the sec. That might help in some preparation by getting a little inside info on us.
I'm not saying that we won't win, but we could be in for a better fight than most are expecting. Couple that with our young team thinking all we have to do is show up and win could spell disaster. I think if we stick with the run we could wear them down on the defensive line due to the fact that the seconds on the depth chart are all freshmen. This info has tempered my enthusiasm some. I predict a 32 to 22 win for us. I hope it's more but I'm not predicting more than a ten point victory for us.
If anyone wants to do their own research feel free to enlighten me why I'm wrong. (Minus all the psycho babble that has no basis in facts)
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That is all fine and dandy but the majority of their games were against pushovers! We have "the Legacy Class" and the bUTchster! Prediction: Same as last week ... We are going to whip some azz!!!!!
Go Vols!
:)
 
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Mistake #1 - trusting internet sources for research

Mistake #2 - wasting any time at all researching a team we are about to destroy
 
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roddo518 said:
I hope it was from accurate sites because I went to a lot of different ones. They have 8 returning starters on a defense that was ranked 51st in total and that is with Auburn and Missouri on their schedule. The offense has 4 starters returning from an offense that was ranked 23rd in total, which includes a dual threat qb and the best rb and wr in the league returning. They lost a lot of starting offensive lineman but the replacements are comparable to ours in size. One ol is a little small in today's standards at 274. The coaching carousel has connections with 2 hc in the sec. That might help in some preparation by getting a little inside info on us.
I'm not saying that we won't win, but we could be in for a better fight than most are expecting. Couple that with our young team thinking all we have to do is show up and win could spell disaster. I think if we stick with the run we could wear them down on the defensive line due to the fact that the seconds on the depth chart are all freshmen. This info has tempered my enthusiasm some. I predict a 32 to 22 win for us. I hope it's more but I'm not predicting more than a ten point victory for us.
If anyone wants to do their own research feel free to enlighten me why I'm wrong. (Minus all the psycho babble that has no basis in facts)
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I watched their highlights vs. Montana State. Up until the second half, and even during it, I was wondering why they did not score more. There were a lot of missed opportunities by the Red Wolves. They do have speed on their team, but I'm less worried about that because it seemed like they earned their points on big plays vs. a very tired and, apparently, outmatched Montana State defense.

That being said, it's hard to completely evaluate a team based on highlight reel play. They had some big plays, but were unable to finish them and had to resort to field goals on their drives during the first half.

They lost points on a muffed return in the first half, but Jackson had an impressive hit on a Montana State returner during the second half. Like, an impressive hit.

They had one trick play which looked like a "jet sweep", "end around" type play where the QB gave it to the man in motion and the man in motion threw it back to the QB for a nice gain. They capitalized on it by the QB throwing a nice pass up the middle into the end zone. Probably the best series up until this time in the game. I would also like to point out they had about six blockers around the QB when he was running it back, but the QB still got knocked out of bounds outside of the red zone.

They had one interception by Rocky Hayes on a severely overthrown pass by Montana State.

There was ONE play where Knighten had a good gain on a QB keeper. ONE play which highlighted their QB's ability to run during the highlights.

Another pick by their secondary which they were able to capitalize with points on the board.

Overall, it's hard to say how good the Red Wolves are watching a highlight film. But, there was one common theme while I was watching this... Their defense can swarm the ball and can blitz. They had a couple of really good looks during the game and they came up with several sacks. I don't know a lot about Montana State, but ASU appeared to have good speed off the line of scrimmage. With Gilliam going down, I hope that we can counter this by play calling.

I believe we win this one handily, but I also respect them because they seem to have good speed on their front seven.
 
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I just watched the hi lights of asu and montana. They do have some athletes. They made some awesome catches and runs, but montana state was slow as hell on defense.
 
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roddo518 said:
I hope it was from accurate sites because I went to a lot of different ones. (1) They have 8 returning starters on a defense that was ranked 51st in total and that is with Auburn and Missouri on their schedule. (2) The offense has 4 starters returning from an offense that was ranked 23rd in total, which includes a dual threat qb and the best rb and wr in the league returning.

If anyone wants to do their own research feel free to enlighten me why I'm wrong. (Minus all the psycho babble that has no basis in facts)
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(1) Correct... and they gave up 38 and 41 points to those teams respectively, with both games being relatively early in the season so their starters were likely pulled long before the end of the game. Just look at the rest of their schedule and you can see what their real defense looked like (e.g. they gave up 34 points to Troy and 31 to Memphis).

(2) Yep... an offense that scored 7 points against Memphis and also 7 points against the mighty Louisiana Ragin Cajuns.

Nothing personal... but my psycho babble research would suggest that your analysis needs a little more work. You can't just look at "averages" and make broad assumptions without factoring in other criteria.
 
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roddo518 said:
I hope it was from accurate sites because I went to a lot of different ones. They have 8 returning starters on a defense that was ranked 51st in total and that is with Auburn and Missouri on their schedule. The offense has 4 starters returning from an offense that was ranked 23rd in total, which includes a dual threat qb and the best rb and wr in the league returning. They lost a lot of starting offensive lineman but the replacements are comparable to ours in size. One ol is a little small in today's standards at 274. The coaching carousel has connections with 2 hc in the sec. That might help in some preparation by getting a little inside info on us.
I'm not saying that we won't win, but we could be in for a better fight than most are expecting. Couple that with our young team thinking all we have to do is show up and win could spell disaster. I think if we stick with the run we could wear them down on the defensive line due to the fact that the seconds on the depth chart are all freshmen. This info has tempered my enthusiasm some. I predict a 32 to 22 win for us. I hope it's more but I'm not predicting more than a ten point victory for us.
If anyone wants to do their own research feel free to enlighten me why I'm wrong. (Minus all the psycho babble that has no basis in facts)
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I like you post OP...and the avatar is perrrrrrfect!:devilsmoke:
 
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With a shorter prep week and Oklahoma looming, my biggest concern is focus. If we come out ready, I don't see where this is close.

To me, this is the biggest test of the staff's "Power Of One" philosophy, and that's probably the biggest statement the Vols can make Saturday.
 
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We win. Blowout. Ready for Norman. don't tell me not to overlook this team or we will lose. That's the players job. It doesn't matter how far we look ahead as fans. The players aren't I'm sure. And no I'm not sayin we beat OU. I'm just ready.
 
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Orange And Garnet said:
We win. Blowout. Ready for Norman. don't tell me not to overlook this team or we will lose. That's the players job. It doesn't matter how far we look ahead as fans. The players aren't I'm sure. And no I'm not sayin we beat OU. I'm just ready.
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Yep.

This one is gonna be ugly.
 
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