It's one thing being tight lipped but not to talk

#26
#26
First we complain because Kiffin ran his mouth way too much about everything and now we've got fans like you crucifying Coach Dooley for keeping a low profile. Seriously lets just let him decide how the program is run and how much info is leaked because hey, that is what he gets paid for.
 
#27
#27
Why the hell do some people feel that they have to have information all the time?

You don't.

If you want it, donate millions and become a booster.
 
#28
#28
CountVolcula said:
Why did Kiffin have so much time to talk to the media?

Huumm! Seems to me he would have been too busy running the football teams day-to-day operations instead of spotlighting for the media.

So who was really running the show, the brief stint kiffin was here?

The job of the HC is to coach football, administer the other coaches, overlook day-to-day aspects of the program. It is not spent in front of the cameras, basking about your own glory and demeaning better coaches while you do it. It is also not spending time wondering if Joe Blow poster has their morning fix of up-to-date recruiting news.

If you want for a media whore program, go watch USC. I'm sure you can get some info on how great their recruiting is going and how every other teams recruits will pump gas for a living.

Dooley isn't like Kiffin and I'm damn glad of it!!!
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Yeah bro ...your 'opinion' of what a coach should or should not be doing aside ...Kiffin was about to deliver us a top 3 recruiting class and then he turned around and closed USC to a tie at #1.

As far as the secondary violations ...we were not even close to many SEC programs and nationally were not even in the mix with the top offenders.

Kiffin has a very valid method of making alot of noise, bragging about NFL coaching , and then going into the kids living rooms and showing the kids what they are about . The kids walk away saying ...hey those guys are not so bad . Like it or not they are closers.

Lets hope CDD 's methods can yield similar results . I for one would love to hear more from him ...just to be engaged with the program . I think recruiting does benifit from being in the media , even if just positive media . CDD has to put up top 5 classes to be relevant in the SEC ...because any given year you have 4-6 SEC teams in the top 10. A bunch of 3 star kids from East Tennessee is awesome ....but it can't be the whole class ...he has to recruit nationally and reel in some ballers .
 
#29
#29
Kiffin went 7-6--nothing to brag about, especially with some blowout losses. Some better coaching would have gotten more wins.
 
#30
#30
Fijivol72 said:
who is really not a known head coaching product don't you think he would want to fire up potential recruits and the fan base with at least a little information. Look with all the coaches from La. Tech and other schools that aren't big time names it just seems an easy task to be a cheerleader even if only once in a while. See he hired another grad assistant from La Tech just fueling some people's opinion that he is in over his head and the SEC ain't the WAC. A little talk would go a long way IMO.
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Which major NCAA program did you lead? You seem to know a lot about coaching and recruiting at this level, and I would be interested in knowing where you gained all of your experience and perspective.
 
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#32
Fijivol72 said:
about how Jr. Day is over the top for this new coach. The La Tech mafia silence is deafening and I believe it hurts our overall recruiting effort. perhaps it's because we are not on many top recruits list, maybe its because suddenly Dooley believes Tn is fertile recruiting ground but it is ridiculous that the head coach can't bring himself to give some news on our Jr Day, is it because he and his staff are incompetent or just plain blind to what it takes to get players excited about your program. never saying a word is not what should be expected, some of his media relations is not passing muster.
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We all get it by now. You liked the circus that Kiffin ran and believe the UT HC's primary purpose in life is to ensure that YOU are excited and in the know year round.

Why don't you grow up and get over yourself or else start following USC? Your shots at Dooley for not running a snake handling side show are getting tiresome.
 
#33
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majic73 said:
Yeah bro ...your 'opinion' of what a coach should or should not be doing aside ...Kiffin was about to deliver us a top 3 recruiting class and then he turned around and closed USC to a tie at #1. .
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Maybe he would have delivered a top 3 class, maybe not. He probably would have finished higher than 9th... but I personally doubt it would have been higher than 5th.

USC's class was going to be one of the top 2 with or without Kiffin. The foundation was already there and they beat 2nd place UF by a very wide margin.
 
#34
#34
but I am an alum and vasf supporter who asked a legit question regarding, one the lack of information and two with a staff that doesn't have the "star" quality that Kiffin brought shouldn't our coach be at least giving tidbits about recruiting? Look everyone has an opinion, mine just as valid as the next. By the way comparing Saban and Dooley is foolish, Saban had already won a NC, Dooley is striving for his second winning season of his coaching career,that debate is not even a fair fight.
 
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Fijivol72 said:
but I am an alum and vasf supporter who asked a legit question regarding, one the lack of information and two with a staff that doesn't have the "star" quality that Kiffin brought shouldn't our coach be at least giving tidbits about recruiting? Look everyone has an opinion, mine just as valid as the next. By the way comparing Saban and Dooley is foolish, Saban had already won a NC, Dooley is striving for his second winning season of his coaching career,that debate is not even a fair fight.
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Wait wait wait...

Because this guy is, in what seems to be your opinion, not qualified, he should basically be REQUIRED to let everyone know what he's doing?

Because you and everyone else out there are so much better at looking into things and making professional analysis. He doesn't owe you anything.
 
#36
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Fijivol72 said:
about how Jr. Day is over the top for this new coach. The La Tech mafia silence is deafening and I believe it hurts our overall recruiting effort. perhaps it's because we are not on many top recruits list, maybe its because suddenly Dooley believes Tn is fertile recruiting ground but it is ridiculous that the head coach can't bring himself to give some news on our Jr Day, is it because he and his staff are incompetent or just plain blind to what it takes to get players excited about your program. never saying a word is not what should be expected, some of his media relations is not passing muster.
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Coach Dooley doesn't owe you anything. The man can run the program however he wants. Just because he hasn't told the public about how the Jr. Day went doesn't mean he hasn't told any other recruits or anyone else. Maybe you should become an USC fan if you want a blabber mouth coach to follow.
 
#37
#37
look he is the face of Tennessee football and is paid from money from Vasf. That doesn't entitle anyone however if he wants to enjoy a good relationship with the people who pay his freight then he does have some obligation. Saying he doesn't owe us anything is just plain wrong. Yes he can continue his silence but he sure as hell better put a product on the field. he doesn't have to pander, nor politic but no communications is simply a bad policy.
 
#38
#38
So if he talks he doesnt have to put as good of a product on the field??? Wow , Kiffin had UT figured out.
 
#40
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VolsRule said:
Kiffin went 7-6--nothing to brag about, especially with some blowout losses. Some better coaching would have gotten more wins.
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In some situation you would be right ...but now in this one .

When you are starting a QB that has done nothing but failed , a running back and O line that has failed , receivers that have had their most success running the the G gun , when you only have a 4-5 man defensive line rotation , little or no depth at linebacker , and walk on's and a converted TE manning your O line ...all while playing one of the toughest schedules in the country ....it is pretty remarkable . The blow out losses were all second half losses which are the direct result of shallow depth on the D front ...which will happen again this season unless they can 'invent' players that can play at the SEC level .

So yeah ...based on what we saw the year before ...and the things I just pointed out ...this was a 4 or 5 win team that played above themselves . It should be something to brag about.

I really hope you and others with the same mindset are more forgiving of Dooley. I like the guy , but understand that he faces the same if not worse set of issues ( QB , RB , O line , D line depth ...tough schedule ) The D line depth will contribute to 'blowout losses' after halftime . You need 8 guys ...not 4 . There is nothing that any coach can do to stop this . The QB and O line are going to need time as well ...and no matter who starts at RB ...they are gonna face some challenges.

So next season ...given the circumstances ...5 wins may be something to brag about . If he can pull off 7 win and a bowl loss to a top 10 team ...I would consider him the coach of the year .
 
#41
#41
Dooley doesn't care what we think. He knows his job performance will be judged by wins and losses. Not how often he speaks to the media.
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#42
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sjt18 said:
Maybe he would have delivered a top 3 class, maybe not. He probably would have finished higher than 9th... but I personally doubt it would have been higher than 5th.

USC's class was going to be one of the top 2 with or without Kiffin. The foundation was already there and they beat 2nd place UF by a very wide margin.
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He would have delivered top 3 ...all these top notch kids that CDD closed ( remarkably so ) were being recruited by the last regime . Several of them would not have come ...but only because guys that were more valued by Kiffin would have . Ambles , Green , possibly Taylor , tons more ...all would have closed in orange . They could recruit ...then he went to USC and did the exact thing that Dooley did ...he held together and added to the class in place there .

That all being said ...that is what Dooley must do . He needs to get local kids here , no doubt , just to build the pipelines . He needs to recruit GA , the east coast , and TX ...as he has indicated . But he must challenge nationally and challenge in FL and get the Vol name in the minds of kids that haven't even considered the Vols ( they don't know what we did 10 years ago ) We have to have top 5 classes ...anything less than that put us in the middle of the pack in the SEC .
 
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Fijivol72 said:
about how Jr. Day is over the top for this new coach. The La Tech mafia silence is deafening and I believe it hurts our overall recruiting effort. perhaps it's because we are not on many top recruits list, maybe its because suddenly Dooley believes Tn is fertile recruiting ground but it is ridiculous that the head coach can't bring himself to give some news on our Jr Day, is it because he and his staff are incompetent or just plain blind to what it takes to get players excited about your program. never saying a word is not what should be expected, some of his media relations is not passing muster.
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You must work for the Sports Animal because they are the only bunch of idiots worried about the coaches not talking. If it wasnt for those guys the why isnt the coach talking to me crowd would have never been bothered. Listen up Heather Harrington it isnt CDD's responsibility to hunt you down and talk to you get over it.

Also Saban did the same thing at LSU before he won a championship.



Rusty
 
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#46
#46
Seeing how people freaked over these guys tendency to change their minds before they actually sign the LOI, why would anyone put any real stock into what they say 11 months out?
 
#47
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GAVol said:
"Some people" need to stop for a second and think about how ludicrous they sound when they pretend to have any ability to evaluate something as obscure as a Grad Assistant.
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Nonsense!:eek:lol:

My pappy used to say that no news is good news.
 
#48
#48
I did get a little bit worried about the lack of communication during the recruiting days. But CDD has been busier than a 1 legged man in an ass kicking contest. I read in last sundays paper that CDD was decling all interviews until Spring practice started. I feel really good about what is going on. I do hate the fact that CDD has cut off his mother Barabara from giving interviews...
 
#49
#49
Im not sure if anybody cares but I will be UStreaming tonight on some of my thoughts on what's been going on and sharing my story. I will be doing it at 10pm EST.
 
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Fijivol72 said:
about how Jr. Day is over the top for this new coach. The La Tech mafia silence is deafening and I believe it hurts our overall recruiting effort. perhaps it's because we are not on many top recruits list, maybe its because suddenly Dooley believes Tn is fertile recruiting ground but it is ridiculous that the head coach can't bring himself to give some news on our Jr Day, is it because he and his staff are incompetent or just plain blind to what it takes to get players excited about your program. never saying a word is not what should be expected, some of his media relations is not passing muster.
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he can't talk about recruits. guess he could say somethign generic like, camp went really well... NCAA would be all over him if he said anything about a particualr player or players
 
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