It's not Dooley's fault!!!!!!!!!!!!

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KingtUT said:
Yep, he gets next year. But the improvement needed is almost to much to ask for. So what if MTSU gears up to stop the run, should that really matter? If we keep putting a product like this on the field, we can say good bye to any highly ranked recruits coming here. Right now he still has some leverage because of all the issues we have and his limited time to fix it (recruits may buy in). I think the best possible solution is for some coaching changes to be made, starting with the o-line coach. The way this team performs , he better do something.
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We can't run on anyone, not just MTSU. Thats what I said. They just tried working on it in the second half and didn't get much anywhere with it.

And its possible we could see offensive staff changes, but not any HC, DC or OC changes. I could see them letting go Harry to get a good RB coach if he is why the run game isn't going anywhere. I didn't realize that we actually don't have a RB coach until just 2-3 weeks ago. Cheaney works a ton with the QB's, so Hinshaw may be expendable. Then again Hinshaw could be partly responsible for Bray's development.
 
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champyvol said:
he has alot to do with it. i feel after next year he is gone.
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I disagree with both statements. I think its more attrition, lack of depth to replace that attrition, and 3 different coaches in 4 years is why we are where we are.

And he should get at least 2 more years. If same-o next year, then heat is on IMO after that.
 
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volanator said:
You may not be drinking any more Dool-aid but you're certainly smoking something if you think we should be any better than what we are given our youth, injuries, etc...

Yes, plenty of teams overachieve BUT that's because their expectations are low. Come down off cloud 9 because it's a rebuilding year.
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Cloud 9 ?????? Yeah thats where im at after that performance.

If you dont think we should be better than what we are, I wont waste time trying to convince you.
 
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You guys are blind... I don't want Dooley fired but he must make some changes in the coaching staff if he fails to do this then cya... Isn't that what got us into this **** hole we are living in now... The inability to make necessary changes.
 
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If, but, what if, we shoulda, etc. Get out of here with all that garbage. The guy is paid to win ball games. We fired Phil because we were tired of this same BS. I'm all about giving someone ample time but it's a requirement to see progress and it's not happening. Rather that be because of assistant coaches or CDD, the truth is there has been NO progress.

I'll be back next Sat at the same time. If we see the same results (a lose) this time next week, VN will need to be shutdown. The only thing Dooley has had to hang his hat on so far is that he's beatin' the teams he was suppose to but if he loses to UV next week, were looking at Houston Nutt type of season next year. Aka mid season firing! Hart will be licking his chops to make his first big splash, guaranteed!
 
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BerryBros'n'2014 said:
I'll be back next Sat at the same time. If we see the same results (a lose) this time next week, VN will need to be shutdown. The only thing Dooley has had to hang his hat on so far is that he's beatin' the teams he was suppose to but if he loses to UV next week, were looking at Houston Nutt type of season next year. Aka mid season firing! Hart will be licking his chops to make his first big splash, guaranteed!
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Firing Dooley won't get us a big splash of a coach. No coach wants to go somewhere where the university shows no patience.

When you start with a new coach you have to give them a minimum of 3 if not 4 years. Anything less and you're just adding one more item to the list of reasons that coaches may not want to come here right now.
 
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A coach gets a free pass in his first season, especially someone who entered rather late in the recruiting process.

In the second year, however, I think it is fair to take a more critical look at what is being offered on the field. The special teams coverage units, underlined by the Adams punt return, have been awful. Poor approach towards the returner. Poor technique. Complete lack of effort. That is coaching. Bad coaching.

The run blocking has been non-existent to the point where even Bray shakes his head in disbelief when we're in a 3rd and 4 and try to go to it. There is no excuse for the lack of development in this segment of Tennessee's game when we had 5 returning starters on the line. This staff either didn't place enough emphasis on running the football or it has failed to improve the performance of our line. If Dooley doesn't fix the issues with the offensive line, then all the 4 and 5 star skill players he can bring in to catch the football will not help him. You can't win games without a decent offensive line. And if you can't run the football, then you don't have a decent offensive line.

We hired someone who was not ready for the big time for a situation requiring experience. That is not on Dooley. That is on Hammy and company. We need to give Dooley time to develop his talent level and address the issues where things aren't going well. And the time to develop will be granted him.

That doesn't absolve him of criticism. I firmly believe he sees some of the same things we're all seeing right now and changes will be made in the staff after the season's close to address the points where failure is a question of coaching rather than talent.
 
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i still think,it is a lack of talent,everywhere,there will be no quick fix or anything close to it,till this group of sophomores is gone,it is going to be hard times,it should get a little better,but it is going to be hard to say how much,there are some good players coming,which is a good thing,we will have to see,how the coaches get em up to speed
 
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UGADawg4Life said:
I agree with most of your points. But there's no way you should have/could have, beat UGA. CDD should be given time. But he's going to have a lot of trouble recruiting quality players given the fact that the state of TN doesn't produce quality. It's gonna get harder.
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Tennessee has always been low on instate talent but UT has never had a problem recruiting top ranked classes with talent, that's why we have a history of winning. UT has put a lot of players in the NFL and UT was out recruiting UGA for a while until Fulmer got lazy. UT recruits nationally and has one of the highest recruiting budgets in the country. You act like UT is some **** football program when in fact historically UT is a better program than UGA.
 
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sp8283 said:
Well said 100% agree with what you said !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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WRONG!!!!!!! You can NOT expect to make it thru the year without injuries. You CAN expect to field a team that KNOWS how to play football. This is supposed to be a football team. It is instead a ****ing joke. They don't seem focused. Why? Because they don't have a clue of what to focus on. Depth chart and youth are not getting us beat. Not knowing how to play football is getting us BLOWN out by top teams. Without fail. We lost all three against the best teams we played for different reasons. This is a joke. A bad one too. Hiding this staffs inability with better talent will be like applying a band-aid to a stab wound. UT has NEVER really out-recruited the whole league before anyway but we had better start now if this staff is going to win a meaningful game. --- We have many disrespectful names for Fulmer. We have Third and Chavis. We need a name for these coaches. The "Band of Idiots" comes to mind. Maybe the "Ne'er do Wells". And **** those ugly-assed orange pants too. Those things are UGLY AS HELL. Hideous. Kind of like the play on the field.
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UGADawg4Life said:
I agree with most of your points. But there's no way you should have/could have, beat UGA. CDD should be given time. But he's going to have a lot of trouble recruiting quality players given the fact that the state of TN doesn't produce quality. It's gonna get harder.
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That excuse may have been more valid in the days when programs could have 115 (or, going back earlier, 130-plus) scholarship players. But in this era, Tennessee is in a better position to compete than where we were in the 1970s. This isn't a 7-10 year project. Dooley will get the time to build this squad. But unlike Majors, he will not get more time than what anyone else in a rebuilding situation at a major program gets.
 
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UGADawg4Life said:
I agree with most of your points. But there's no way you should have/could have, beat UGA. CDD should be given time. But he's going to have a lot of trouble recruiting quality players given the fact that the state of TN doesn't produce quality. It's gonna get harder.
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This is wrong, Tennessee does produce quality. They just go play at other colleges because our coaching is a joke.
 
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joshc said:
Agree. Dooley may or may not be the guy, but only idiots would start thinking about firing him before he's even finished coaching his 2nd year of a team comprised of true freshmen and sophomores, with all their best players injured or dismissed. Needs 4-5 yrs from hire of a Major rebuild before the fire Dooley discussions are fair.
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4-5 years? have you lost your mind ? with this coaching staff we would be way below Kentucky level lol
 
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I have been pro dooley all along. I hope he makes it and is successful here. I am beginning to doubt he will be. We must win the last two games and get in a meaningless bowl. We need the practice!!! After the season, he must evaluate at least 3 possible coaching changes. O-C, O-L, & D-B Coaches need to be evaluated to see if changes are needed. Some believe we need to upgrade our assistant coaching staff both in X's and O's and recruiting. Time will tell if Dooley makes it. I hope so, but as each game passses I become less and less confident!! I see little to no improvement on the team. I do not see a change in scheme to help the player we do have be more successful.
 
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TheDeeble said:
Firing Dooley won't get us a big splash of a coach. No coach wants to go somewhere where the university shows no patience.

When you start with a new coach you have to give them a minimum of 3 if not 4 years. Anything less and you're just adding one more item to the list of reasons that coaches may not want to come here right now.
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You could argue no coach would come to a school where they fired the only championship winner in the last 60 years in the middle of only his 2nd losing year (out of 17 years). You would easily win that argument with one word. Kiffin. It does not take 3 or 4 years to show you are a winner. Ability is evident from the start.
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#47
This staff gets nothing extra out of the kids.. They play hard and then crumble... That is all coaching. We have a second class coaching staff from La. Tech. You don't have to agree, but the writing is all over the walls.

When UT is getting pounded like this next season, the so-called dream season, I want to see what the Dooley supporters say then...
 
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This about injuries, depth and talent. The last 2 we don't have much of, rebuilding a program takes time. Of course its easier for schools like Bama and Florida to rebuild, the HS talent is far greater than in Tennessee. Many people forget we were at the top when teams like Bama, USCe, Georgia, LSU were just not very good. Now after Saban brought back both LSU and Bama, add in Richt and Spurrier, the SEC is a lot better league.

I'm not say Dooley is the answer but you have to play the hand you're dealt.
 
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I_Hate_the_BCS said:
This about injuries, depth and talent. The last 2 we don't have much of, rebuilding a program takes time. Of course its easier for schools like Bama and Florida to rebuild, the HS talent is far greater than in Tennessee. Many people forget we were at the top when teams like Bama, USCe, Georgia, LSU were just not very good. Now after Saban brought back both LSU and Bama, add in Richt and Spurrier, the SEC is a lot better league.

I'm not say Dooley is the answer but you have to play the hand you're dealt.
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I'm really sick of hearing stuff like this. Playing "the hand your dealt" means there's no room for improvement. There is room for at least some progression in the midst of injuries and depth issues. Everyone would be lying if they said this team has played any better. I'd say this team is looking worse, which is a sign of bad coaching and inability to motivate your players. We'll see how much back-patting Dooley gets after we get owned by Vandy this year.
 
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