It's a RIP OFF!

#51
#51
Was that comment necessary? Everybody on the planet knows there will be a heavier demand since it is the first major family holiday when people get time off from work since Christmas. But why all the lame-a$$ excuses for sending the price up 50%. (Iran, pipeline troubles, broken down refineries,etc just to name a few.) Why don't they just come out and say, "OK consumer, we got you bent over with the laundry down. Get ready cause we got what you gotta have and if you want to go see your Mom you're gonna pay through the nose." As for price fixing...you know they do. Anybody with any sense could see this coming when Reagan de-regulated the industry during his reign. Gas was selling for about $.60 a gallon, Reagan said de-regulate and let the price float to find its fair market price. Within a week it floated to over a $1 a gallon, almost a 100% increase. Funny that the companies weren't losing dough before, just weren't making the killing they are now on a necessary commodity. As for the 9.7% margin, that's so much horse manure. Anybody can manipulate their books to show what ever they want them to show, if crooked government agencies are conducting the audits.

You say its just the capitalist way and that's your opinion, which you are entitled to. I say its rape of the consumer and the economy, my opinion which I'm entitled to.

These birds are sharp. About three years ago there was a serious consumer boycott to protest gasoline prices getting organized and these guys fabricated a shortage based on some lame excuse claiming there would be no gas at the pumps, gas lines, and spread it all over the media. Prices began skyrocketing, and people, (except me), panicked and rushed out to fill their tanks instead of boycotting. By the way, the shortage never materialized and the oil boys made a killing off a consumer protest. This ain't fiction, this was history.


If the oil companies (who don't control the cost of oil BTW) maintain consistent profit margins -- how can you say they are gouging? Do you not believe that their cost structure fluctuates?

If they did not pass along those cost increases, thousands of employees would lose jobs, the stock value of the company would drop and I guarantee that the vast majority of posters here that have any type of retirement plan would lose value.

Oil companies are not entities -- they are collections of people and they are owned by the public. Sure some CEO's are overpaid but even if they weren't, gas prices would look the same.
 
#52
#52
There's two causes:
Supply and Demand

1) Supply is controlled for the most part by OPEC, and how much they produce.

2) Demand- with the largest increase coming from China's boomimg economy...

Oil companies, biggest opportunity is refining capabilities, and working with federal, state and local gov't to stop these insane summer and winter blends, that eat up capacity...
 
#53
#53
Was that comment necessary?

Sorry if you thought I was belittling you. I was just making the point that we are talking about a commodity that is traded on the open market. Price is always going to be based on speculation.
 
#54
#54
As much as I hate shelling out a U.S. Grant to fill up my car, the best thing in the long run for this country would be for the price of a gallon of gas to rise to $5/gal and stay there fo 10 years. Only then do we develop an alternative energy source and tell those camel jockeys in the Middle East to take their petro and shove it!!
 
#55
#55
Anybody with any sense could see this coming when Reagan de-regulated the industry during his reign. Gas was selling for about $.60 a gallon, Reagan said de-regulate and let the price float to find its fair market price. Within a week it floated to over a $1 a gallon, almost a 100% increase.

I don't think gas was ever $0.60 per gallon during the Reagan Administration. Here are the numbers adjusted for inflation. The price of gas hasn't really changed all that much in the past 25 years.

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#56
#56
It's coming, my friends. I was in Spain 4 weeks ago and paid $5 a gallon.
 
#58
#58
Football tickets for UT last year were $45 (general admission). Wonder if the inflation for gas in the last 10 years exceeds the rise in the cost of a ducat for a game in Neyland? As least with gasoline you the the same or better product in 2007 compared to 1997.:banghead2:
 
#59
#59
Actually, GAVol is correct. Just about everything has gone up more than gasoline in the last 25 years.....Cars, housing, food, movies, etc...
 
#60
#60
Hey, the Occidental Petroleum CEO only made 400 million last year...How can anybody justify that?

hey, that's what happens when you're the CEO of a large corporation like Oxy. His compensation package was agreed upon by the board of directors and the shareholders.

Besides, 400 million is chump change when you consider how much Hugo Chavez is stealing from the people of Venezuela.
 
#61
#61
hey, that's what happens when you're the CEO of a large corporation like Oxy. His compensation package was agreed upon by the board of directors and the shareholders.

Besides, 400 million is chump change when you consider how much Hugo Chavez is stealing from the people of Venezuela.

I totally agree with the last statement....
 
#62
#62
1)Supply is controlled for the most part by OPEC, and how much they produce.

2) Demand- with the largest increase coming from China's boomimg economy...

OPEC doesn't really have much control over supply anymore. Big OPEC producers, especially Saudi Arabia, used to have enough excess production capacity to keep prices stable. During demand spikes, they could just pump more oil; this is why they were called "swing producers." That excess capacity is now gone. Worldwide demand is vastly higher (China, India) at the same as the world's largest oil fields (particularly Saudi Arabia's giant Ghawar field) appear to be depleting much faster than was expected. During demand spikes, the Saudis and other oil-exporting nations can't just pump more oil now -- they're running at close to maximum capacity all the time now.

Anyone who wasn't expecting sharply increased gasoline prices this summer hasn't been paying attention. Some analysts think that average US pump prices could hit $4 a gallon this summer.
 
#64
#64
Anyone who wasn't expecting sharply increased gasoline prices this summer hasn't been paying attention. Some analysts think that average US pump prices could hit $4 a gallon this summer.

analysts now are saying that the current spike will be over shortly and the national average won't touch $3/gallon.

one way to end all this madness is to put an end to the regional blends. with so few refineries in the US, the downtime caused by regional blends causes these wild price spikes. In the wake of Katrina, Bush and the EPA suspended the regional blends until the Colonial Pipeline was repaired. It can be done again, and should be done again.
 
#65
#65
I think the dairy industry is gouging also. A gallon of milk is over $3 in most places. Do we not have enough milkeries? Should we build more? Also water, a 16 ounce bottle costs like a dollar, meaning a gallon would be like 8 FREAKING dollars. Who is in charge of this water thing?
 
#66
#66
Also water, a 16 ounce bottle costs like a dollar, meaning a gallon would be like 8 FREAKING dollars. Who is in charge of this water thing?

Evil Pepsico (makers of Aquafina) announced Net profit margins of 17+% in for the last quarter of 2006 - about 35-40% higher than Big Oil. Those bastards!
 

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