It Just Hit Me...

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#26
I'm going to go ahead and disagree. Didn't the Terps finish like 24-7 just a two seasons ago? A year that included sweeping Carolina and Duke? Granted they stumbled out of the gate in the ACC that year and lost 5-6 games in conference, but they still fared pretty well. Flamed in the Big Dance, but it was still one heck of a season. Also if I'm not mistaken Osby and Gist are the only significant players not returning. That team last year was chocked full of freshmen and sophomores.
 
#27
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volfanbill said:
I'm going to go ahead and disagree. Didn't the Terps finish like 24-7 just a two seasons ago? A year that included sweeping Carolina and Duke? Granted they stumbled out of the gate in the ACC that year and lost 5-6 games in conference, but they still fared pretty well. Flamed in the Big Dance, but it was still one heck of a season. Also if I'm not mistaken Osby and Gist are the only significant players not returning. That team last year was chocked full of freshmen and sophomores.
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Maryland has missed the NCAA Tournament 3 out of 4 years. Going 24-7 is about the same as going 10-4 and "winning" the SEC East. Osby and Gist were the extent of their inside game. Their post play this season will be nothing short of pitiful.
 
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#29
hatvol96 said:
which college coach's current situation most mirrors Fulmer's. It's Maryland basketball coach Gary Williams. Both are alums of the school they are coaching.. Both have has tremendous past success, including a National Championship. Both now have sinking programs that appear to be beyond repair.
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hat, I actually thought about posting a similar thought in the thread a few months ago where you listed your top 20 men's BB coaches. The preventative difference was Maryland's ACC tourney championship in '04 which, although not exactly on par with an SEC football championship, resulted in a pretty prestigious banner hanging from the rafters and made my challenge too easy to refute.

I didn't want to pitch you a softball.
 
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cotton said:
hat, I actually thought about posting a similar thought in the thread a few months ago where you listed your top 20 men's BB coaches. The preventative difference was Maryland's ACC tourney championship in '04 which, although not exactly on par with an SEC football championship, resulted in a pretty prestigious banner hanging from the rafters and made my challenge too easy to refute.

I didn't want to pitch you a softball.
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It's really difficult to coach as long as Williams has at the level of intensity he is set on. He's been around forever. I mean, he was the coach at American U when Gary Carter made his famous steal and shot during the '82 Vol Classic.
 
#31
#31
Yeah, i remember ppl saying how it wasn't goin to be just duke and unc anymore, but maryland also after their 02 title. things have rly fallen apart in maryland.
 
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#32
I had always compared Fulmer to Lloyd Carr, & he was pushed out 10 years after his National Championship. Only difference is, Carr had went to three BCS Bowls this decade.
 
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hatvol96 said:
which college coach's current situation most mirrors Fulmer's. It's Maryland basketball coach Gary Williams. Both are alums of the school they are coaching.. Both have has tremendous past success, including a National Championship. Both now have sinking programs that appear to be beyond repair.
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Yes(see above) and no. Whereas Williams was a sucessful head coach at three major schools (B.C., Ohio State an Maryland), the only head coaching job Fulmer has ever had is his present one. Williams had sucess at building strong programs at all three schools. His first three years at Maryland they were on NCAA probation, no post season play etc, yet he built a strong program culminating in 12 NCAA appearances and the Championship in 2002.

Fulmer inherited a solid program and in the late 90's went to three BCS bowls, won two SEC c'ships and the NC in '98. This was an era when the conference except for Spurrier was void of quality coaches. He has had minimal sucess in the last decade.

I just think to compare Phil to Gary is unfair to the latter. Except for the Grace of God (the post cardiopulmonary bypass dementia that Majors suffered after his open heart surgery that allowed Fulmer to become the head coach at UT), he would have never suceeded at any other school.
 
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