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It finally dawned on me the other day that I sort-of live Pruitt's challenge on a daily basis - but his is worse... And he gets paid a heckuva a lot more!!!

I'm an IT consultant. Been doing it 35 years and have been very successful at it. I've seen a lot of technological changes - some fantastic game changers, some just the repackaging of old concepts and some that nowhere near panned out.

I've been hired by a client to come in and redesign, rewrite and modernize an existing 20 year old antiquated mega-system made up of numerous crappily designed and written moving parts. I know from the beginning I can't come in and wholesale shut the old system and its components off. The business relies on what the system does, and I have to keep things running and fix current issues as well as implement the new design and components. I know what I'm doing will be a lot better than what is there, and I can only implement pieces incrementally due to the magnitude and scope. But I also know that as I replace pieces, I can try to mitigate risks and issues, but problems are going to occur - especially once I get to the meat of the system. It's going to appear to some that things are not getting better quickly enough. I just have to minimize the issues I can and take them as they come and make them better as I can within my capacity to do so. Once I have all things rewritten with my design, and the frameworks, hardware and components I know and want, it will far surpass what the client wants. Just got to get there...

CJP's task is the virtually the same. He has to impose his work ethic and philosophies on players, recruited by Butch, who more than likely never would've made it through his screening process. Yet he still has to put a product on the field built with his limited and not fully functioning framework of a team. Most have the physical skills, but don't appear to have the mindset or ability to grasp the necessary concepts.

I get to do it with things (software and hardware) that give me 100% effort and do EXACTLY what I tell them. Imagine trying to do that same kind of thing with 17-22 year old kids.

So personally, I'm going to withhold final judgement on this experiment for a while longer knowing the pain of an overhaul of somebody else's mess.
 
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BogeyVol said:
It finally dawned on me the other day that I sort-of live Pruitt's challenge on a daily basis - but his is worse... And he gets paid a heckuva a lot more!!!

I'm an IT consultant. Been doing it 35 years and have been very successful at it. I've seen a lot of technological changes - some fantastic game changers, some just the repackaging of old concepts and some that nowhere near panned out.

I've been hired by a client to come in and redesign, rewrite and modernize an existing 20 year old antiquated mega-system made up of numerous crappily designed and written moving parts. I know from the beginning I can't come in and wholesale shut the old system and its components off. The business relies on what the system does, and I have to keep things running and fix current issues as well as implement the new design and components. I know what I'm doing will be a lot better than what is there, and I can only implement pieces incrementally due to the magnitude and scope. But I also know that as I replace pieces, I can try to mitigate risks and issues, but problems are going to occur - especially once I get to the meat of the system. It's going to appear to some that things are not getting better quickly enough. I just have to minimize the issues I can and take them as they come and make them better as I can within my capacity to do so. Once I have all things rewritten with my design, and the frameworks, hardware and components I know and want, it will far surpass what the client wants. Just got to get there...

CJP's task is the virtually the same. He has to impose his work ethic and philosophies on players, recruited by Butch, who more than likely never would've made it through his screening process. Yet he still has to put a product on the field built with his limited and not fully functioning framework of a team. Most have the physical skills, but don't appear to have the mindset or ability to grasp the necessary concepts.

I get to do it with things (software and hardware) that give me 100% effort and do EXACTLY what I tell them. Imagine trying to do that same kind of thing with 17-22 year old kids.

So personally, I'm going to withhold final judgement on this experiment for a while longer knowing the pain of an overhaul of somebody else's mess.
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Losing to Georgia State with ANY players is the equivalent of someone asking you to get their speak and spell working and you not being able to tell that it needs batteries.

Dude is a joke. This won't end well.

But I like your willingness to hang in there and fight it.


Go Vols
 
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It might be similar if some or many of the components of the system were infected with malware and were intermittent so you're not sure what is broken because it covers it tracks. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I would rather have your job than Germy's.
 
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Losing to Georgia State with ANY players is the equivalent of someone asking you to get their speak and spell working and you not being able to tell that it needs batteries.

Dude is a joke. This won't end well.

But I like your willingness to hang in there and fight it.


Go Vols
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Solid gold.
 
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It finally dawned on me the other day that I sort-of live Pruitt's challenge on a daily basis - but his is worse... And he gets paid a heckuva a lot more!!!

I'm an IT consultant. Been doing it 35 years and have been very successful at it. I've seen a lot of technological changes - some fantastic game changers, some just the repackaging of old concepts and some that nowhere near panned out.

I've been hired by a client to come in and redesign, rewrite and modernize an existing 20 year old antiquated mega-system made up of numerous crappily designed and written moving parts. I know from the beginning I can't come in and wholesale shut the old system and its components off. The business relies on what the system does, and I have to keep things running and fix current issues as well as implement the new design and components. I know what I'm doing will be a lot better than what is there, and I can only implement pieces incrementally due to the magnitude and scope. But I also know that as I replace pieces, I can try to mitigate risks and issues, but problems are going to occur - especially once I get to the meat of the system. It's going to appear to some that things are not getting better quickly enough. I just have to minimize the issues I can and take them as they come and make them better as I can within my capacity to do so. Once I have all things rewritten with my design, and the frameworks, hardware and components I know and want, it will far surpass what the client wants. Just got to get there...

CJP's task is the virtually the same. He has to impose his work ethic and philosophies on players, recruited by Butch, who more than likely never would've made it through his screening process. Yet he still has to put a product on the field built with his limited and not fully functioning framework of a team. Most have the physical skills, but don't appear to have the mindset or ability to grasp the necessary concepts.

I get to do it with things (software and hardware) that give me 100% effort and do EXACTLY what I tell them. Imagine trying to do that same kind of thing with 17-22 year old kids.

So personally, I'm going to withhold final judgement on this experiment for a while longer knowing the pain of an overhaul of somebody else's mess.
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So youā€™re saying Pruitt should try turning it off and turn it back on again?
 
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It finally dawned on me the other day that I sort-of live Pruitt's challenge on a daily basis - but his is worse... And he gets paid a heckuva a lot more!!!

I'm an IT consultant. Been doing it 35 years and have been very successful at it. I've seen a lot of technological changes - some fantastic game changers, some just the repackaging of old concepts and some that nowhere near panned out.

I've been hired by a client to come in and redesign, rewrite and modernize an existing 20 year old antiquated mega-system made up of numerous crappily designed and written moving parts. I know from the beginning I can't come in and wholesale shut the old system and its components off. The business relies on what the system does, and I have to keep things running and fix current issues as well as implement the new design and components. I know what I'm doing will be a lot better than what is there, and I can only implement pieces incrementally due to the magnitude and scope. But I also know that as I replace pieces, I can try to mitigate risks and issues, but problems are going to occur - especially once I get to the meat of the system. It's going to appear to some that things are not getting better quickly enough. I just have to minimize the issues I can and take them as they come and make them better as I can within my capacity to do so. Once I have all things rewritten with my design, and the frameworks, hardware and components I know and want, it will far surpass what the client wants. Just got to get there...

CJP's task is the virtually the same. He has to impose his work ethic and philosophies on players, recruited by Butch, who more than likely never would've made it through his screening process. Yet he still has to put a product on the field built with his limited and not fully functioning framework of a team. Most have the physical skills, but don't appear to have the mindset or ability to grasp the necessary concepts.

I get to do it with things (software and hardware) that give me 100% effort and do EXACTLY what I tell them. Imagine trying to do that same kind of thing with 17-22 year old kids.

So personally, I'm going to withhold final judgement on this experiment for a while longer knowing the pain of an overhaul of somebody else's mess.
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Cast not your pearls before swine. What you said just went in one ear and out the other with most of the rowdies.
 
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It finally dawned on me the other day that I sort-of live Pruitt's challenge on a daily basis - but his is worse... And he gets paid a heckuva a lot more!!!

I'm an IT consultant. Been doing it 35 years and have been very successful at it. I've seen a lot of technological changes - some fantastic game changers, some just the repackaging of old concepts and some that nowhere near panned out.

I've been hired by a client to come in and redesign, rewrite and modernize an existing 20 year old antiquated mega-system made up of numerous crappily designed and written moving parts. I know from the beginning I can't come in and wholesale shut the old system and its components off. The business relies on what the system does, and I have to keep things running and fix current issues as well as implement the new design and components. I know what I'm doing will be a lot better than what is there, and I can only implement pieces incrementally due to the magnitude and scope. But I also know that as I replace pieces, I can try to mitigate risks and issues, but problems are going to occur - especially once I get to the meat of the system. It's going to appear to some that things are not getting better quickly enough. I just have to minimize the issues I can and take them as they come and make them better as I can within my capacity to do so. Once I have all things rewritten with my design, and the frameworks, hardware and components I know and want, it will far surpass what the client wants. Just got to get there...

CJP's task is the virtually the same. He has to impose his work ethic and philosophies on players, recruited by Butch, who more than likely never would've made it through his screening process. Yet he still has to put a product on the field built with his limited and not fully functioning framework of a team. Most have the physical skills, but don't appear to have the mindset or ability to grasp the necessary concepts.

I get to do it with things (software and hardware) that give me 100% effort and do EXACTLY what I tell them. Imagine trying to do that same kind of thing with 17-22 year old kids.

So personally, I'm going to withhold final judgement on this experiment for a while longer knowing the pain of an overhaul of somebody else's mess.
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Nice analogy. I work in the engineering software world. Some pretty old and established CAD products. Had a chat with a developer once. He was up to his butt in aligators trying to implement new functionality. He said, "I could chuck this whole package and do a total rewrite and it'd be light years better, BUT... I have to support legacy product that customers have invested in". . Same concept.

Georgia State game was like the new consultant walking in and spilling coffee on the machine with no backup. Woops.. but trust me, I'm good.
 
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Blade computers. Test run. Cutover date actually means cutting the cables to the old system and forcing everyone on the new one. This works. I've done it.
 
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A clean install is 10x easier than a migration. But you cant stop the whole business to do a full overwrite and some parts still function fine. Rate limiting (25 new recruits per year) causes resource constraints that make it impossible to do a clean install and have a functioning program.
 
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It finally dawned on me the other day that I sort-of live Pruitt's challenge on a daily basis - but his is worse... And he gets paid a heckuva a lot more!!!

I'm an IT consultant. Been doing it 35 years and have been very successful at it. I've seen a lot of technological changes - some fantastic game changers, some just the repackaging of old concepts and some that nowhere near panned out.

I've been hired by a client to come in and redesign, rewrite and modernize an existing 20 year old antiquated mega-system made up of numerous crappily designed and written moving parts. I know from the beginning I can't come in and wholesale shut the old system and its components off. The business relies on what the system does, and I have to keep things running and fix current issues as well as implement the new design and components. I know what I'm doing will be a lot better than what is there, and I can only implement pieces incrementally due to the magnitude and scope. But I also know that as I replace pieces, I can try to mitigate risks and issues, but problems are going to occur - especially once I get to the meat of the system. It's going to appear to some that things are not getting better quickly enough. I just have to minimize the issues I can and take them as they come and make them better as I can within my capacity to do so. Once I have all things rewritten with my design, and the frameworks, hardware and components I know and want, it will far surpass what the client wants. Just got to get there...

CJP's task is the virtually the same. He has to impose his work ethic and philosophies on players, recruited by Butch, who more than likely never would've made it through his screening process. Yet he still has to put a product on the field built with his limited and not fully functioning framework of a team. Most have the physical skills, but don't appear to have the mindset or ability to grasp the necessary concepts.

I get to do it with things (software and hardware) that give me 100% effort and do what I tell them. Imagine trying to do that same kind of thing with 17-22 year old kids.

So personally, I'm going to withhold final judgement on this experiment for a while longer knowing the pain of an overhaul of somebody else's mess.
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e for you if
1. You only worked with the best hardware with all updated software at your previous jobs. You know about updating from Win XP to 7 to 10, but you never had to do it before this job.
2. While you are familiar with what the server does and have seen the best server in your previous network, you were never responsible for running the server before now.
3. You werenā€™t the overall manager before, though you had supervisory responsibility, you didnā€™t have to answer to the big boss, department heads, clients etc.
So while CJP has to do all the things you said above, he also has to learn how to be a head football coach, develop players more than heā€™s had to in the past, and learn how to manage the program. Tall order, hope he can do it.
 
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Gandalf said:
A clean install is 10x easier than a migration. But you cant stop the whole business to do a full overwrite and some parts still function fine. Rate limiting (25 new recruits per year) causes resource constraints that make it impossible to do a clean install and have a functioning program.
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Build out a mirror site with correct components that are scale-able for future, clean install, migrate necessary data, verify data integrity , test, validate, ditch old system. Won't work for football though.

It is a good analogy though. With most "migrations" you have some failures.
GaSt was a failure. A total system crash. I would say we are now at a restored state identical to the most recent prior to the crash. Maybe Pruitt has a plan, maybe he doesn't, maybe his plan went terribly awry, maybe even this is just a step in the process. Either way it sucks for the fans, the players, and the university. Hopefully QA has found the problem with the migration and mitigated the risks going forward so that we can build from here.
We are basically starting from scratch. And there are limited resources available for improvements and limited patience.
 
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Wylo said:
Losing to Georgia State with ANY players is the equivalent of someone asking you to get their speak and spell working and you not being able to tell that it needs batteries.

Dude is a joke. This won't end well.

But I like your willingness to hang in there and fight it.


Go Vols
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I get the premise of OP analogy, and if we've got the right programmer, and can see some improvement, I think most will be OK with that. Problem is, we could have made the same statement about Butch and Dooley. Pruitt and staff gotta earn their paycheck, or figure they'll be happy getting a paid internship with uncle Nick for a few years.
 
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BogeyVol said:
I'm an IT consultant. Been doing it 35 years and have been very successful at it. I've seen a lot of technological changes - some fantastic game changers, some just the repackaging of old concepts and some that nowhere near panned out.
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So you know a thing or two about rebuilding programs. You are a proven commodity.

What happens when a business or organization hires someone who doesn't have either your experience or acumen with fixing systems that are broken?
 
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Pruitt is doing it in a system where every component self-destructs every 4 years (max), including at all his competitors. So he actually has a big advantage over you.
 
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All he had to do against Georgia state was unplug the router and plug it back in....

And instead, he accidentally wiped the database out and set fire to the building.
 
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Wylo said:
Losing to Georgia State with ANY players is the equivalent of someone asking you to get their speak and spell working and you not being able to tell that it needs batteries.

Go Vols
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That is pure gold!

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