It’s a sad truth

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YankeeVol said:
Vandy is our biggest rival now

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Tennessee is also 5-5 in the last 10 vs South Carolina, with the Vols leading the combined score 259-253.
 
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N.ohio vol said:
Does the 2nd most winningist team in the sec belong in the sec?:rolleyes:
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If we don't get our arse in gear we are about to be third. Still ridiculous to think we don't "belong", etc. I don't get these posts year after year that we should join the ACC or whatever. We are a founding member of the SEC. We ain't leaving, ever, nor should we.
 
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99gator said:
It's not an article. It's a tweet.

And, say what you will, but for two teams to play each other annually and for the record to be 5-5 and the cumulative scores to be identical is pretty remarkable.
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It's sad no doubt, and say what you will but it's the kind of post that's only expected from the likes of bammers, dawgs, gators and gatorvols.

Enjoy the misery.
 
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ChrisVFL said:
What’s up with all this pain? Like yeah the last 10 years have been competitive but get out. We have dominated this Candy squad for decades. Tn has been at the lowest it can be in years. This won’t last forever. It has been always about coaching , and truthfully we haven’t been good or that good with the last three coaches.



Could you imagine if Dabo, or Saban, or R. Day or L. Riley could have done here with the talent we have recruited . Hell, I’d lay money down if Saban, or Day had out Butch J squad we would have have won a natty. Candy will always be our B , but got to have the right coaches. The win loss Ratio just isn’t there to be competitive.
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I split your post in two (sorry, don't know how to break up the posts like sjt18 does) to better address this.

The first part of your post is correct. The past few years have been rough and it doesn't help to lather and bathe in it.

However, the second part of your post is why I think some of these threads (not the volume that does exist, but some) are a good thing. There has not been the talent to win big in the last few years. And there isn't the talent right now either. The reason why the coaches you mentioned would probably have eventually succeeded is that they would have brought the talent to Knoxville. Every coaching hire that happens, some people think Tennessee is some walking gold mine and the right coach will start beating people left and right. It's not there.

We can debate who had it worse when they took over; Kiffin, Dooley, Jones, Pruitt, and now Heupel. But, none of those were "win now" situations. Jones was the closest model to what success will look like by gradually getting better every year, but he obviously did not stack quality recruiting classes together so that when Dobbs and company left, there wasn't much of anything to continue progressing to becoming competitive and then if fell off a cliff.

The coaching has mattered precisely because the talent has not been good enough. The classic "not talented enough to win on talent alone" situation. And since the coaching has been terrible, other programs with comparable talent havse been able to compete and beat Tennessee a fair number of times.
 
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We are definitely not rivals to AL / FL except on our end. Even Spurrier said when he was there and asked about the TN rivalry: "its not a rivalry when one team wins all the time". However both fan bases enjoy the beatdown their teams put on us every year. When your in the bottom half of the SEC that's where your rivals exist because those are the only teams you are competitive with. This is what happens when you have a series of incompetent AD's.
 
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#47
Just as a point of sanity, Vanderbilt used to be a powerhouse football team in the early part of the 20th century. They had several undefeated seasons and dominated Southern football. It wasn't until after the 60s that they became the Vanderbilt most of us used to know and mock. Lifetime statistics can be misleading.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
*lies down on the train tracks*

hmm, too messy

*lights a bunch of candles and turns the gas on wipe open*

wait, need to leave the house to wife and kids

*stands on a golf course in the lightning storm*
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Ties anchor to neck and jumps in Tennessee river. Anchors Down?
 
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When Neyland was hired in 1926, he was told by the school president to "Even the score with Vanderbilt. Do something about the terrible series standing."
 
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