It’s time to open our eyes, these high-caliber OOC games…

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GoVols876

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It’s time to open our eyes; these high-caliber OOC games may be doing far more harm than good. Since 2002, we are 2 – 7 in these high-caliber OOC games with an average margin of defeat of more than 14 points.

I am concerned that these games are only making it more difficult for us to get back on top. It’s no secret that the lifeblood of a program is recruiting. We need them, our rivals have them. Do you realize how much easier it would be to sell our program to these young recruits when we aren’t getting embarrassed? How about with an extra ‘W’ on our schedule every year? Sure, the ‘We play in cool places OOC’ may be a fun recruiting tool, but I think winning an extra game and not getting embarrassed on a national stage one less time each year would help far more.

I understand that it may be a lot of fun for the fanbase to travel to these great college football venues. I myself traveled to Cal in 2007 and had an amazing time. My rebuttal would be, wouldn’t you rather see the program recruit better? Wouldn't you rather see us getting back to winning faster? Wouldn’t you rather see us finish the year with a better record? Wouldn’t you rather see us win the SEC again?

With Ohio State, Nebraska, Oklahoma, USC, and Oregon on our schedule in the future, I have major concerns about how much they will hurt us rather than help us rebuild this once great program.

2010 – Oregon at home, L by 35
2009 – UCLA at home, L by 4
2008 – at UCLA, L by 3 in OT
2007 – at Cal, L by 14
2006 – Cal at home, W by 17
2005 – at Notre Dame, L by 20
2004 – Notre Dame at home, L by 4
2003 – at Miami, W by 4
2002 – Miami at home, L by 23
 
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GoVols876 said:
It’s time to open our eyes; these high-caliber OOC games may be doing far more harm than good. Since 2002, we are 2 – 7 in these high-caliber OOC games with an average margin of defeat of more than 14 points.

I am concerned that these games are only making it more difficult for us to get back on top. It’s no secret that the lifeblood of a program is recruiting. We need them, our rivals have them. Do you realize how much easier it would be to sell our program to these young recruits when we aren’t getting embarrassed? How about with an extra ‘W’ on our schedule every year? Sure, the ‘We play in cool places OOC’ may be a fun recruiting tool, but I think winning an extra game and not getting embarrassed on a national stage one less time each year would help far more.

I understand that it may be a lot of fun for the fanbase to travel to these great college football venues. I myself traveled to Cal in 2007 and had an amazing time. My rebuttal would be, wouldn’t you rather see the program recruit better? Wouldn't you rather see us getting back to winning faster? Wouldn’t you rather see us finish the year with a better record? Wouldn’t you rather see us win the SEC again?

With Ohio State, Nebraska, Oklahoma, USC, and Oregon on our schedule in the future, I have major concerns about how much they will hurt us rather than help us rebuild this once great program.

2010 – Oregon at home, L by 35
2009 – UCLA at home, L by 4
2008 – at UCLA, L by 3 in OT
2007 – at Cal, L by 14
2006 – Cal at home, W by 17
2005 – at Notre Dame, L by 20
2004 – Notre Dame at home, L by 4
2003 – at Miami, W by 4
2002 – Miami at home, L by 23
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What's really frustrating about that is the 4 losses to UCLA and Notre Dame. Those teams were AWEFUL.

What's really embarrassing is how uncompetetive we have been in most of those games.
 
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govols876 said:
it’s time to open our eyes; these high-caliber ooc games may be doing far more harm than good. Since 2002, we are 2 – 7 in these high-caliber ooc games with an average margin of defeat of more than 14 points.

I am concerned that these games are only making it more difficult for us to get back on top. It’s no secret that the lifeblood of a program is recruiting. We need them, our rivals have them. Do you realize how much easier it would be to sell our program to these young recruits when we aren’t getting embarrassed? How about with an extra ‘w’ on our schedule every year? Sure, the ‘we play in cool places ooc’ may be a fun recruiting tool, but i think winning an extra game and not getting embarrassed on a national stage one less time each year would help far more.

I understand that it may be a lot of fun for the fanbase to travel to these great college football venues. I myself traveled to cal in 2007 and had an amazing time. My rebuttal would be, wouldn’t you rather see the program recruit better? Wouldn't you rather see us getting back to winning faster? Wouldn’t you rather see us finish the year with a better record? Wouldn’t you rather see us win the sec again?

With ohio state, nebraska, oklahoma, usc, and oregon on our schedule in the future, i have major concerns about how much they will hurt us rather than help us rebuild this once great program.

2010 – oregon at home, l by 35
2009 – ucla at home, l by 4
2008 – at ucla, l by 3 in ot
2007 – at cal, l by 14
2006 – cal at home, w by 17
2005 – at notre dame, l by 20
2004 – notre dame at home, l by 4
2003 – at miami, w by 4
2002 – miami at home, l by 23
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yea,and look back to all the <cough,fan's,cough>that was complaing about playing ten.martin.
 
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GoVols876 said:
It’s time to open our eyes; these high-caliber OOC games may be doing far more harm than good. Since 2002, we are 2 – 7 in these high-caliber OOC games with an average margin of defeat of more than 14 points.

I am concerned that these games are only making it more difficult for us to get back on top. It’s no secret that the lifeblood of a program is recruiting. We need them, our rivals have them. Do you realize how much easier it would be to sell our program to these young recruits when we aren’t getting embarrassed? How about with an extra ‘W’ on our schedule every year? Sure, the ‘We play in cool places OOC’ may be a fun recruiting tool, but I think winning an extra game and not getting embarrassed on a national stage one less time each year would help far more.

I understand that it may be a lot of fun for the fanbase to travel to these great college football venues. I myself traveled to Cal in 2007 and had an amazing time. My rebuttal would be, wouldn’t you rather see the program recruit better? Wouldn't you rather see us getting back to winning faster? Wouldn’t you rather see us finish the year with a better record? Wouldn’t you rather see us win the SEC again?

With Ohio State, Nebraska, Oklahoma, USC, and Oregon on our schedule in the future, I have major concerns about how much they will hurt us rather than help us rebuild this once great program.

2010 – Oregon at home, L by 35
2009 – UCLA at home, L by 4
2008 – at UCLA, L by 3 in OT
2007 – at Cal, L by 14
2006 – Cal at home, W by 17
2005 – at Notre Dame, L by 20
2004 – Notre Dame at home, L by 4
2003 – at Miami, W by 4
2002 – Miami at home, L by 23
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i totally agree with this point. but this is the same point people made when Hamilton wanted to move the NC game. this is why he wanted to move the game.
if TN isnt rebuilt by teh time they start that OOC run, then is gonna be bad
 
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we'll have the depth, talent & coaching to win these games in the next 3 years or so, but you won't catch me complaining if we replace Ohio State, Nebraska, Oklahoma, USC, and Oregon with Eastern Michigan, Iowa State, North Texas, San Jose State and Idaho.
 
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Bad luck too, most of the teams we have faced recently are fielding some of their best teams.
 
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i agree with op. these first few games set the tone for the entire season. after being killed at home, it's gonna take spirits down a little-for players and fans.
 
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I'd say our level of play at the time those games were scheduled warranted them. Our level of play when the games were actually played tells a different story.
 
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I am sick of paying to see us play teams like Martin. I refuse to go to these games. I say play all the teams in the SEC every year and leave the "other" teams to bowl games or play offs. 11 games is plenty then let the play off begin.
 
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UTVOLKeith said:
I am sick of paying to see us play teams like Martin. I refuse to go to these games. I say play all the teams in the SEC every year and leave the "other" teams to bowl games or play offs. 11 games is plenty then let the play off begin.
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Would you rather pay to see us get embarassed or pay to see us win and get confidence for Florida coming in next week?
 
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I have no problem with playing lesser OOC games until we are back on our feet and can run with the big boys again. However, once we get back to top tier status, I hope our OOC schedule is so stacked it makes Florida and Georgia look like chumps.
 
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GoVols876 said:
Would you rather pay to see us get embarassed or pay to see us win and get confidence for Florida coming in next week?
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you don't get confidence from these games, nothing to win every thing to lose when you play these crap teams. i would rather not see us lose to wyoming.
 
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DynamiteMcGhee said:
I have no problem with playing lesser OOC games until we are back on our feet and can run with the big boys again. However, once we get back to top tier status, I hope our OOC schedule is so stacked it makes Florida and Georgia look like chumps.
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Why would Florida look like chumps? They have used their weak OOC schedules to build a program that has won 2 National Titles in 4 years.

Texas has used weak scheduling to play for two national titles in 5 years.

Forgive me, but I would be tickled pink to be a chump that plays weak OOC games with trips to the National Championship.
 
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The coaches learned much more about their team last night than they would have against a lesser opponent. The good ones can recruit regardless of records.
 
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This isn't the 90's when Tennessee was dominating. It does need to change. The sec has changed with being tougher. It wasn't as great top to bottom then as it is now. You don't need strong ooc games to go have a good strength of schedule to get into the nc if you're from the sec.
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GoVols876 said:
Why would Florida look like chumps? They have used their weak OOC schedules to build a program that has won 2 National Titles in 4 years.

Texas has used weak scheduling to play for two national titles in 5 years.

Forgive me, but I would be tickled pink to be a chump that plays weak OOC games with trips to the National Championship.
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That's why I said we should do it once we are back to being a top tier championship contender. Wouldn't it refreshing to see a championship contender play and succeed in a tough OOC schedule for once?
 
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Lexvol said:
The coaches learned much more about their team last night than they would have against a lesser opponent. The good ones can recruit regardless of records.
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Thats fantastic for the 'good ones', but all you have to do is look at our commits to know that we probably don't have a 'good one' recruiting for us anymore.
 
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DynamiteMcGhee said:
That's why I said we should do it once we are back to being a top tier championship contender. Wouldn't it refreshing to see a championship contender play and succeed in a tough OOC schedule for once?
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Yeah, the two odds on favorites to play for the national title game sure played chumps last night.
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These games are determined years in advance. For example we play Ohio St in 2018 so who knows how good or bad you will be 8 years from now. In fact with that same argument just over 8 years ago we were a good football team!

Plus I would much rather see us beat a big time team vs a ut martin even if it dont happen every year
 
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GoVols876 said:
Thats fantastic for the 'good ones', but all you have to do is look at our commits to know that we probably don't have a 'good one' recruiting for us anymore.
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Dumbest thing I've read all day. It's not like CDD has ever helped recruit a NC team before or anything, or saved a falling apart class last year.
 
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VOLtownUSA said:
Dumbest thing I've read all day. It's not like CDD has ever helped recruit a NC team before or anything, or saved a falling apart class last year.
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let me give you a clue, Kiffin recruited that class with EE's who couldn't leave if they wanted to and Nick Saban was the genius behind the LSU recruiting. Anyone and everyone who knows anything about recruiting knows that the recruiting coordinator is more a behind the scenes organization guy. Maybe you are the dumb one, or better yet go drink some koolaide because by the end of the season you are going to need to spike it heavily.
 
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