Israel vs Palestinians

[OrangeTsar]

Water shortage? Weird. Maybe someone should stop digging up the infrastructure to bomb their neighbors.
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Also trying to remember when the US, Britain, and the Soviet Union were expected to provide water to Berlin in the Spring of 1945

 

[OrangeTsar]

Oh look, it was about Israel committing a genocide and not about "dead Jews" at all. Shocking.

Maybe these European countries should instead maybe…oh I don‘t know…..Pressure Hamas to release the hostages?

 

[Smokey123]

Take it up with the UN.
It also says there’s no clear data to support any other findings so calling someone quoting an official UN report a liar is a bit misleading to downright dishonest. Considering he was trying to use it to justify the white nationalist lies posted here by someone else it definitely leans dishonest

Edit: you do realize that you’re the only person that leans to your side of the debate in this thread capable of an honest discussion, don’t you?
@MercyPercy is also like you but he’s smart enough to stay away from the dipshitery that goes on here

I didn’t call you a liar. I’m just pointing out that specific article is likely years old based off that description it gave. I don’t think there’s any way to know their exact population and we likely won’t know for a few years. I do doubt it’s grown simply for that fact that Egypt alone has taken in 100k+ gazans but other than estimates there’s nothing to base either side off of


That’s why I don’t engage with a lot on this thread It’s pointless. I support Israel’s existence and a homeland for the Jewish people. I don’t support the decisions the current government has made in regards to both gaza and Hamas

 

[OrangeTsar]

Again

Yup, the Nazis were absolutely certain that they were on the right side of history as well

Reality….the people hating on the Jews have NEVER been remembered as the good guys

 

[NashVol11]

Take it up with the UN.
You called someone a liar for saying the UN reports it
You were wrong to do so

As usual.

Eyal Yakoby is a liar and that's not what he said, he said their population has gone up by 43K. That's a lie. You tried to support that lie and ended up gloating about data from 2018 because you didn't know what you were looking at, and now you're talking about "official 2025 UN data" which is something you just made up. The fact that you had to completely rewrite what Eyal Yakoby said and what I said should tell you how dishonest you're being

 

[NashVol11]

Why WOULDN‘T there be?

Because there isn't one for any other language? Lol

 

[NashVol11]

Eyal Yakoby is a liar and that's not what he said, he said their population has gone up by 43K. That's a lie. You tried to support that lie and ended up gloating about data from 2018 because you didn't know what you were looking at, and now you're talking about "official 2025 UN data" which is something you just made up. The fact that you had to completely rewrite what Eyal Yakoby said and what I said should tell you how dishonest you're being

First reply under Eyal's tweet lol

 

[Orangeslice13]

I didn’t call you a liar. I’m just pointing out that specific article is likely years old based off that description it gave. I don’t think there’s any way to know their exact population and we likely won’t know for a few years. I do doubt it’s grown simply for that fact that Egypt alone has taken in 100k+ gazans but other than estimates there’s nothing to base either side off of


That’s why I don’t engage with a lot on this thread It’s pointless. I support Israel’s existence and a homeland for the Jewish people. I don’t support the decisions the current government has made in regards to both gaza and Hamas

Correct you did not. I probably explained that poorly.
My response with that link and the cnn link (that he ignored) was in response to him calling someone a liar. When you Quote a UN report you are not lying. That was my only reason for post the links.

You are also correct in that knowing that exact number is nearly impossible and therefore stupid to argue either side. Again a reflection on who brought it into this discussion.

I feel you’ve made your argument clear. You and I are not very far apart in that regard. We would not know that if you had not been willing to share your opinion without dipshitery when I asked.

But again, I don’t come to this thread to have serious discussion as that ship sailed on this thread a long time ago.

 

[NashVol11]

Correct you did not. I probably explained that poorly.
My response with that link and the cnn link (that he ignored) was in response to him calling someone a liar. When you Quote a UN report you are not lying. That was my only reason for post the links.

You are also correct in that knowing that exact number is nearly impossible and therefore stupid to argue either side. Again a reflection on who brought it into this discussion.

I feel you’ve made your argument clear. You and I are not very far apart in that regard. We would not know that if you had not been willing to share your opinion without dipshitery when I asked.

But again, I don’t come to this thread to have serious discussion as that ship sailed on this thread a long time ago.

What Eyal said is false. It is not true. The fact that you are trying to twist that into a problem with ME shows what I am talking about, where you have recently regressed back into full-on propaganda mode. Nothing I said was incorrect and you got defensive anyway

 

[EasternVol]

Take it up with the UN.
You called someone a liar for saying the UN reports it
You were wrong to do so

As usual.

It was a projection, like you're prone to do but in another context, from before October 2023. It's not a census report.

 

[OrangeTsar]

First reply under Eyal's tweet lol

Anyone quoting „grok“ as an authority to back up a point becomes far less credible on my estimation. I don’t know how many examples have to come out of Grok saying really stupid erroneous things before people come to realize that not only does it provide artificial „intelligence“ but also dishes out a not inconsequential helping of artificial „idiocy“ as well.

 

[MAD]

For all you people who sit there and cry that Jews are White, Jews are European.

Nah, we ain’t allowed either bitches.
You know why?
Because they don’t consider us as white.

 

[Orangeslice13]

It was a projection, like you're prone to do but in another context, from before October 2023. It's not a census report.

And people citing it are not lying.
But you already……
Maybe not. You swifties are not the brightest bulbs in the box.

 

[Orangeslice13]

I literally posted the opposite view point from CNN in the very next post and these stupid MFers want to argue anything but the point.


Classic

 

[Orangeslice13]

Gaza Population 2025

Discover population, economy, health, and more with the most comprehensive global statistics at your fingertips.

worldpopulationreview.com

WPR is information sourced by the UN.
Just saying

Gaza’s population is falling, while Israel’s growth is slowing | CNN

Gaza’s population dropped by 6% – about 160,000 people – in 2024, according to a new report, as Israel’s war against Hamas took a heavy toll on the Palestinian enclave’s demographics.

amp.cnn.com

And CNN with the alternative view

I mean literally. Back to back.

 

[NashVol11]

And people citing it are not lying.
But you already……
Maybe not. You swifties are not the brightest bulbs in the box.

Citing a pre-war projection to dismiss claims of genocide during a war is very much a lie. Doesn't get much more dishonest than that. Even 8188 described it as the guy "lying sometimes," no one is arguing this point but you

 

[NashVol11]

I literally posted the opposite view point from CNN in the very next post and these stupid MFers want to argue anything but the point.


Classic

Speaking of stupid, they are not "opposite viewpoints". One is a projection assuming no genocide ever happened and one is an attempt at measuring the reality where it did. You wanted so badly to agree with Eyal's propaganda that you are now making an objectively terrible argument as a result

 

[NashVol11]

Setting aside that this "statistic" was used to make fun of claims of genocide, you're saying this is not a lie? What, is it true? Be f***ing serious. Damn near every reply is someone calling him out for lying

 

[Orangeslice13]

And yet the stat is still up at the UN.
A bunch of dipshits crying doesn’t change the fact that citing the UN as a source is not lying.

It’s not lost on me that this is all because you’re trying to say that @MAD is a lier just like Huff.

You’re wrong. They are not the same. Not even close

 

[Vol8188]

Even 8188 described it as the guy "lying sometimes," no one is arguing this point but you

I never cared enough to look into the claim. I was simply stating that your comparison was highly flawed.

Huff: posts false things

MAD: you seem to be accusing him of posting true things from someone who sometimes (according to you) posts false things

That a terribly dumb comparison.

Hope that helps!

 

[Orangeslice13]

I never cared enough to look into the claim. I was simply stating that your comparison was highly flawed.

Huff: posts false things

MAD: you seem to be accusing him of posting true things from someone who sometimes (according to you) posts false things

That a terribly dumb comparison.

Hope that helps!

It won’t

 

[NashVol11]

And yet the stat is still up at the UN.
A bunch of dipshits crying doesn’t change the fact that citing the UN as a source is not lying.

"World Population Review" is not "the UN" and the stats that it's citing are from 2018, it is indisputably a lie and he didn't cite anyone. He said Gaza's population has increased, which makes this not a genocide, and all of that is a lie. This is pathetic even for you

 

[Vol8188]

The truth of what's actually happening is that the UN is unable to arrange "police" escorts within Gaza. If they transport the food themselves, they get attacked/raided/looted by desperate, starving civilians. So they've asked for what is essentially a Hamas escort, which has resulted in attacks on the convoys by Israel.

All of this chaos is the result of ethnic cleansing efforts by the Israeli state, mind you.

Zionists are kind of in a win/win here with this slick propaganda. Either they're setting up a trap for Hamas, or if the trap doesn't work, they get to pretend like they are benevolent and the UN is the problem.

Just do a little research when you read something weird, like the implication the UN isn't actually interested in helping.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/us-envoy-idf-killed-palestinian-cops-escorting-gaza-aid-convoy-leading-them-to-refuse-missions/

This only makes sense to someone who refuses to use any logic or actually think about it at all

The obvious answer is the UN could turn the food over to the GHF and the IDF.

The entire reason this has became a political football is because Hamas’ livelihood is at stake. If the UN doesn’t have the food, Hamas doesn’t get it.

That’s why you come here multiple times a week with fake news about “the IDF killed x number of people in line for food”. Because Hamas intentionally is trying to create issues with distribution so it gets turned back over to the UN

 

[NashVol11]

"World Population Review" is not "the UN" and the stats that it's citing are from 2018, it is indisputably a lie and he didn't cite anyone. He said Gaza's population has increased, which makes this not a genocide, and all of that is a lie. This is pathetic even for you

And it wasn't some honest mistake either, it is a lie that he keeps telling intentionally

 

[Devo182]

88 more preventable child deaths in Gaza this week.