Israel vs Palestinians

[NashVol11]

ya you did.
It’s what you do

If you want to have serious conversations, I can do that.
Smokey and Mercy definitely lean to your side and I have no problems talking about things with them.

I have fun with it either way.

No, I didn't, and I'm not interested in your little playfighting BS where you don't respond to or even finish reading what people say and just repeat slogans. People are f****** dying.

 

[Persian Vol]

This was your original mocking post. Then you respond by complaining about my tone? What tone did you expect?



Not sure why anyone would respond to that with condescending or patronizing remarks. I just can’t fathom it!

I also find your comments on your own “mental bandwidth” to be adorable.

Perhaps if you were to apply your mental bandwidth you’d achieve some true understanding and clarity on these issues. Instead you seem to be clouded by your disdain for Israel.

Gazans aren’t starving. This lie has been ongoing for years.

Doctors and journalists have been caught openly aiding Hamas. Hate to break your heart, but your MD doesn’t prevent you from being a terrorist. Nor does an X account where you upload propaganda videos

Ultimately you’ve brought up too much nonsense to address in one post. But that’s what it is. Unhinged. Emotionally charged. Nonsense.

If your mental bandwidth is as great as you believe it is, I’d recommend focusing it on your mental health. This is the post of someone who needs help

This was your original mocking post. Then you respond by complaining about my tone? What tone did you expect?



Not sure why anyone would respond to that with condescending or patronizing remarks. I just can’t fathom it!

I also find your comments on your own “mental bandwidth” to be adorable.

Perhaps if you were to apply your mental bandwidth you’d achieve some true understanding and clarity on these issues. Instead you seem to be clouded by your disdain for Israel.

Gazans aren’t starving. This lie has been ongoing for years.

Doctors and journalists have been caught openly aiding Hamas. Hate to break your heart, but your MD doesn’t prevent you from being a terrorist. Nor does an X account where you upload propaganda videos

Ultimately you’ve brought up too much nonsense to address in one post. But that’s what it is. Unhinged. Emotionally charged. Nonsense.

If your mental bandwidth is as great as you believe it is, I’d recommend focusing it on your mental health. This is the post of someone who needs help

If you truly believe that every doctor, journalist, child, and aid worker killed in Gaza was a secret terrorist, then the real propaganda might be coming from your side of the screen, I hate to break the unfortunate news too you.

 

[NashVol11]

If you truly believe that every doctor, journalist, child, and aid worker killed in Gaza was a secret terrorist, then the real propaganda might be coming from your side of the screen, I hate to break the unfortunate news too you.

Also, "we killed them for spreading propaganda" in many cases means "we killed them for expressing an opinion we don't like"

 

[Vol8188]

If you truly believe that every doctor, journalist, child, and aid worker killed in Gaza was a secret terrorist, then the real propaganda might be coming from your side of the screen, I hate to break the unfortunate news too you.

Wow how the goal posts have shifted. No one has claimed every single one was a terrorists. Yes, civilians die in all wars. Especially in wars where their government not only refuses to aid them but openly blocks roads to prevent them from leaving open war zones

There’s plenty of propaganda from your side and you obviously fall for it (like the bulldozer girl image you liked).

 

[Orangeslice13]

No, I didn't, and I'm not interested in your little playfighting BS

Ya you did.
And if that were true you wouldn’t be making excuses to converse with me

And you don’t give a **** about people dying.
You would not be liking post of someone celebrating death if you did.


Hypocrite

 

[NashVol11]

Ya you did.
And if that were true you wouldn’t be making excuses to converse with me

And you don’t give a **** about people dying.
You would not be liking post of someone celebrating death if you did.


Hypocrite

You clearly reading the entire post, including the part about people dying, and then only quoting half of it in order to pretend and play middle school games is a microcosm of this entire thread

 

[MAD]

 

[Vol8188]

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Their government steals their food.

“How evil of the IDF (the people giving them food)! They’re starving!”

Their government openly murders them while standing in line for food

“Omg! These zionists (the people giving them food) are so evil!”

 

[n_huffhines]

 

[Smokey123]

If you truly believe that every doctor, journalist, child, and aid worker killed in Gaza was a secret terrorist, then the real propaganda might be coming from your side of the screen, I hate to break the unfortunate news too you.

Same guy that has supported funding terrorism on 2 separate occasions. The expectations are beneath the floor

 

[Vol8188]

Same guy that has supported funding terrorism on 2 separate occasions. The expectations are beneath the floor

Of course, the child can’t understand nuance.

 

[Smokey123]

 

[MAD]

Wow how the goal posts have shifted. No one has claimed every single one was a terrorists. Yes, civilians die in all wars. Especially in wars where their government not only refuses to aid them but openly blocks roads to prevent them from leaving open war zones

There’s plenty of propaganda from your side and you obviously fall for it (like the bulldozer girl image you liked).

 

[Persian Vol]

Wow how the goal posts have shifted. No one has claimed every single one was a terrorists. Yes, civilians die in all wars. Especially in wars where their government not only refuses to aid them but openly blocks roads to prevent them from leaving open war zones

There’s plenty of propaganda from your side and you obviously fall for it (like the bulldozer girl image you liked).

Wow, the irony of claiming the goalposts have shifted while actively moving them yourself is hard to miss. You said doctors and journalists being killed wasn’t a tragedy because some have been “caught aiding Hamas,” and dismissed their deaths as “propaganda videos.” When that logic was challenged, you suddenly walked it back with “No one’s claiming every single one was a terrorist.” If you’re going to make sweeping generalizations to justify innocent civilian deaths, at least own them when confronted.

Yes, civilians die in war. But scale, intent, and proportionality matter. Over 70% of the deaths in Gaza are women and children. That’s not an unfortunate byproduct of war, it’s a humanitarian catastrophe. Dismissing this as a natural consequence of conflict is a moral cop-out. If that many civilians were dying in any other context, the world would be outraged. But here, the response is “well, that’s war”? That’s not a defense, it’s apathy masquerading as realism.

And blaming Hamas for “blocking roads” doesn’t justify bombing neighborhoods where civilians are trapped with no fuel, no food, and no safe corridor. You can criticize Hamas’s cruelty without giving Israel a free pass for collective punishment. Both things can be true at once.

If your outrage only shows up when Hamas kills civilians but vanishes when it’s a Western ally doing it at exponentially greater scale, then maybe the problem isn’t moral clarity, it’s moral convenience.

 

[Vol8188]

Wow, the irony of claiming the goalposts have shifted while actively moving them yourself is hard to miss. You said doctors and journalists being killed wasn’t a tragedy because some have been “caught aiding Hamas,” and dismissed their deaths as “propaganda videos.” When that logic was challenged, you suddenly walked it back with “No one’s claiming every single one was a terrorist.” If you’re going to make sweeping generalizations to justify innocent civilian deaths, at least own them when confronted.

Yes, civilians die in war. But scale, intent, and proportionality matter. Over 70% of the deaths in Gaza are women and children. That’s not an unfortunate byproduct of war, it’s a humanitarian catastrophe. Dismissing this as a natural consequence of conflict is a moral cop-out. If that many civilians were dying in any other context, the world would be outraged. But here, the response is “well, that’s war”? That’s not a defense, it’s apathy masquerading as realism.

And blaming Hamas for “blocking roads” doesn’t justify bombing neighborhoods where civilians are trapped with no fuel, no food, and no safe corridor. You can criticize Hamas’s cruelty without giving Israel a free pass for collective punishment. Both things can be true at once.

If your outrage only shows up when Hamas kills civilians but vanishes when it’s a Western ally doing it at exponentially greater scale, then maybe the problem isn’t moral clarity, it’s moral convenience.

1. You brought up that they’ve killed journalists and doctors, without context. I pointed out that several have been either open Hamas members or openly aiding Hamas (holding hostages, joining in on October 7th, etc). So you made a claim, intentionally ignored the obvious important factors regarding that claim, and then came in with the lame proclamation that I’m stating they’re all terrorists. Do better. I never moved any goal posts, I pointed out important context that you intentionally left out.

2. The scale here is obviously worse due to the actions of Hamas. Israel drops speakers form the sky warning people to leave. Hamas blocks the roads. Then you blame Israel. It’s realism from my end, 100%. I realize you can’t simply lay down your arms because the enemy doesn’t care about their people. Despite that, the IDF has went out of their way to protect the people of Gaza.

I have no issues with moral clarity. Armies should make efforts to avoid civilian casualties. Neither you nor I can name an army that has done more to avoid those than the IDF.

 

[Orangeslice13]

You clearly reading the entire post, including the part about people dying, and then only quoting half of it in order to pretend and play middle school games is a microcosm of this entire thread

You don’t give a **** about people dying.
You come here to argue about just about anything.
Sometimes against yourself.

Not once have you called for the hostages to be released. Not once have you called for Hamas to surrender to save lives. Not once have you condemned Hamas for the murder of their own.

Your crying about Israel on an anonymous message board is really showing the love.

Give me a break you childish hypocrite.

At least I’m honest about what I’m doing here. Which is poking inconsistent hypocrites like yourself

 

[Orangeslice13]

If you truly believe that every doctor, journalist, child, and aid worker killed in Gaza was a secret terrorist, then the real propaganda might be coming from your side of the screen, I hate to break the unfortunate news too you.

Still waiting on that proof

 

[MAD]

Still waiting on that proof

But comedian Dave Smith said it was true on Piers Morgan.

 

[Orangeslice13]

But comedian Dave Smith said it was true on Piers Morgan.

Considering who posted that…..I’m not sure he said that

 

[Vol8188]

Truly amazing how they will believe any random social media post

 

[EasternVol]

Can’t be. He has superior mental bandwidth.

Is that your concession that his 'mental bandwidth' is superior to yours? If so, bravo for recognizing it and being forthright enough to acknowledge it.

 

[EasternVol]

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Shocking. Truly. Who would’ve guessed a super model wasn’t operating a bulldozer.

Supermodel, her? She's all spackle and paint.

 

[Persian Vol]

1. You brought up that they’ve killed journalists and doctors, without context. I pointed out that several have been either open Hamas members or openly aiding Hamas (holding hostages, joining in on October 7th, etc). So you made a claim, intentionally ignored the obvious important factors regarding that claim, and then came in with the lame proclamation that I’m stating they’re all terrorists. Do better. I never moved any goal posts, I pointed out important context that you intentionally left out.

2. The scale here is obviously worse due to the actions of Hamas. Israel drops speakers form the sky warning people to leave. Hamas blocks the roads. Then you blame Israel. It’s realism from my end, 100%. I realize you can’t simply lay down your arms because the enemy doesn’t care about their people. Despite that, the IDF has went out of their way to protect the people of Gaza.

I have no issues with moral clarity. Armies should make efforts to avoid civilian casualties. Neither you nor I can name an army that has done more to avoid those than the IDF.

You keep referencing a few isolated cases of individuals allegedly linked to Hamas, then use that to discredit an entire category of professionals who’ve been killed in record numbers. Over 100 journalists and over 400 healthcare workers have been killed in Gaza as of mid-2025, according to international watchdogs. Are you suggesting they were all complicit?

Warning someone to run from an inescapable fire doesn’t absolve the arsonist. Even if we accept that Hamas has done so in some cases, it doesn’t justify indiscriminate bombing of entire neighborhoods. International humanitarian law doesn’t get suspended just because the enemy is unscrupulous. You can hold Hamas accountable without giving Israel a blank check to kill 60,000+ people, most of whom are women and children.

The claim that “no army has done more to avoid civilian casualties than the IDF” is surely a joke.
You don’t get to obliterate half of Gaza’s infrastructure, displace nearly 2 million people, kill more children than any conflict in the 21st century and then ask for a gold star because you dropped flyers first.

 

[EasternVol]

The lies are being exposed.


Hamas has a clear motive to lie about the GHF: it threatens their grip on power and their war narrative. The Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, an American-run aid channel, delivers food directly to civilians - without Hamas interference or profit.

That’s why Hamas fights it. They block trucks, shoot civilians who try to get aid, and claim there's "no food," and that aid sites are "bloodbaths", while videos show the opposite. More than 3,000 calories per person per day are being delivered. Starvation is a lie. And it's been proven.

Palestinians themselves have thanked the US and Trump for GHF deliveries, on camera, saying it's the first time they received aid for free, without bribes or Hamas strings.

International observers like Col. Richard Kemp and veterans of warzones confirm Hamas uses classic jihadist tactics - faking crises, attacking aid workers, faking reports from Gaza, starting riots and exploiting civilian suffering for global outrage.

As GHF continues its work, more Gazans are speaking up. They're calling out Hamas, demanding the war end, and asking for hostages to be released. Free aid exposes the real oppressor - and Hamas can't survive that truth.


Most of the pictures showing starving children and other horrors in Gaza are recycled pictures from years ago, from other countries.


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Classic jhadist tactics? Is there a list somewhere? How do they differ from classic other tactics?

 

[MAD]

You keep referencing a few isolated cases of individuals allegedly linked to Hamas, then use that to discredit an entire category of professionals who’ve been killed in record numbers. Over 100 journalists and over 400 healthcare workers have been killed in Gaza as of mid-2025, according to international watchdogs. Are you suggesting they were all complicit?

Warning someone to run from an inescapable fire doesn’t absolve the arsonist. Even if we accept that Hamas has done so in some cases, it doesn’t justify indiscriminate bombing of entire neighborhoods. International humanitarian law doesn’t get suspended just because the enemy is unscrupulous. You can hold Hamas accountable without giving Israel a blank check to kill 60,000+ people, most of whom are women and children.

The claim that “no army has done more to avoid civilian casualties than the IDF” is surely a joke.
You don’t get to obliterate half of Gaza’s infrastructure, displace nearly 2 million people, kill more children than any conflict in the 21st century and then ask for a gold star because you dropped flyers first.

Do I type in “International Watchdogs” to verify your claims?

Hamas releases all the hostages and accepts defeat would save all their buildings and people. Put pressure on the terrorists that committed 10/7.

The Gazans are being killed because of Hamas, their homes are being destroyed because Hamas. The IDF cares more about the people living in Gaza than Hamas does. This has been their plan all along. It’s not about land, it’s about trying to get rid of the Jews in Israel.