Israel vs Palestinians

[Vol8188]

Keep posting and editing through it, I'm sure people will suddenly start agreeing with you and won't ask why you are posting screenshots and curated selections 2,000 posts apart rather than just quoting the full conversation like I did

I’ll respond to this and then putting you back on ignore.

I intentionally stated I wasn’t posting the full conversation. Anyone who wants to see that can always click the posts I referenced.

Rather I showed my specific comment and the comments it was in reference to.

 

[NashVol11]

I’ll respond to this and then putting you bock on ignore.

I intentionally stated I wasn’t posting the full conversation. Anyone who wants to see that can always click the posts I referenced.

Rather I showed my specific comment and the comments it was in reference to.

And threw in the cartoon 100 pages removed from any of that just for some additional lie...I mean, for some added spice

 

[Vol8188]

And threw in the cartoon 100 pages removed from any of that just for some additional lie...I mean, for some added spice

“Additional lie”? Do you still not understand my comment?

When I mentioned two black posters, I was talking about you and Ras. So yes, his cartoon was 100% relevant to what I was stating.

 

[NashVol11]

“Additional lie”? Do you still not understand my comment?

When I mentioned two black posters, I was talking about you and Ras. So yes, his cartoon was 100% relevant to what I was stating.

Lying again right now. You said I "doubled down" by saying something completely unrelated 90+ pages later. Are you capable of ever being honest, or when people ask your name do you lie about that too

 

[Vol8188]

Lying again right now. You said I "doubled down" by saying something completely unrelated 90+ pages later. Are you capable of ever being honest, or when people ask your name do you lie about that too

It was a cartoon that had been bumped plenty of times after being originally posted. You can state you were unaware of it (I tagged you in it multiple times), I’m okay with that. Either way, at the time, it added to the overall issue of Jewish nose jokes within the thread itself.

You really doubled down when you denied the existence of non religious Jews in an effort to proclaim nose jokes couldn’t be racist. The same people who you recognize every time they agree with you

Are you willing to give your opinion now on the cartoon?

 

[EasternVol]

Bull ****
@KB5252 is one of the smartest people here

He is. It's still faint praise.

 

[EasternVol]

There were more than 2,000 posts between the first two posts 8188 quoted here lol. Staggeringly dishonest

Staggering Dishonesty are his middle names.

 

[KB5252]

Bull ****
@KB5252 is one of the smartest people here

I am not smart, intelligence in some ways has completely missed me, in other ways I've been blessed. I'm complicated and difficult, mainly because of my brain ticks/disorders.

I think about things, sometimes obsessively because of the way the cheese is structured in my taco. But I'm nowhere near the smartest.

 

[MAD]

The question that comes to mind for me is, in a region of over 2,000,000 inhabitants ; why is there only one church?

Yesterday it was posted that the only Catholic Church in Gaza was destroyed intentionally by Israel. I’m not trying to call anyone out, I blame the media for reporting it without verifying the facts.

Israel did not intentionally “strike“ a Catholic Church in Gaza. The damage to the Holy Family church was inadvertent and was collateral. Israel is not anti-Christian and does not bomb Catholic churches. There are over 400 Christian churches within the borders of Israel itself, including over 100 Catholic parishes.

This is that church today,



GAZA—Parish priest, Father Gabriel Romanelli photographed saying mass, last night, inside Holy Family Catholic Church in Gaza.

Despite early reports circling on social media, the church was not destroyed.



This morning, Patriarch Theophilos III of Jerusalem and Latin Patriarch Pierbattista Pizzaballa made a joint visit to Gaza to be with their respective faith communities



Christians suffer greatly under hamas, my heart goes out to the people of the Holy Family Church, please end the war by releasing the hostages and surrendering.



Question
Why has there been more coverage of an accidental Israeli strike on a Catholic church in Gaza than there has been for over the 660 churches destroyed by Russia in Ukraine?

 

[Orangeslice13]

I am not smart, intelligence in some ways has completely missed me, in other ways I've been blessed. I'm complicated and difficult, mainly because of my brain ticks/disorders.

I think about things, sometimes obsessively because of the way the cheese is structured in my taco. But I'm nowhere near the smartest.

And you’re humble too.

Seriously though, I have a “no **** with” list of people I consider to be consistent. There’s not many of you guys but you are definitely on the list.

Apologies for dragging you into my tomfoolery but it could not be helped.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Yesterday it was posted that the only Catholic Church in Gaza was destroyed intentionally by Israel. I’m not trying to call anyone out, I blame the media for reporting it without verifying the facts.View attachment 756652View attachment 756653

Israel did not intentionally “strike“ a Catholic Church in Gaza. The damage to the Holy Family church was inadvertent and was collateral. Israel is not anti-Christian and does not bomb Catholic churches. There are over 400 Christian churches within the borders of Israel itself, including over 100 Catholic parishes.

This is that church today,


View attachment 756654
GAZA—Parish priest, Father Gabriel Romanelli photographed saying mass, last night, inside Holy Family Catholic Church in Gaza.

Despite early reports circling on social media, the church was not destroyed.
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This morning, Patriarch Theophilos III of Jerusalem and Latin Patriarch Pierbattista Pizzaballa made a joint visit to Gaza to be with their respective faith communities



Christians suffer greatly under hamas, my heart goes out to the people of the Holy Family Church, please end the war by releasing the hostages and surrendering.



Question
Why has there been more coverage of an accidental Israeli strike on a Catholic church in Gaza than there has been for over the 660 churches destroyed by Russia in Ukraine?

10 years ago there were 15k Christian’s. Before 10/07 there were 1000 still allowed to identify as Christians.
Less than .00005% of the population.
The group I work with is responsible for rescuing/helping them get asylum in Israel and the USA.
It ain’t good to be Christian in Gaza.

 

[OrangeTsar]

10 years ago there were 15k Christian’s. Before 10/07 there were 1000 still allowed to identify as Christians.
Less than .00005% of the population.
The group I work with is responsible for rescuing/helping them get asylum in Israel and the USA.
It ain’t good to be Christian in Gaza.

I have never understood the supposed moral value of an enforced faith like Islam is in many countries. One is not really free to be a Muslim unless they are also free to not be one.
And yes, I say the same about many western medieval situations in which people were forced to acknowledge Christianity.
Faith requires choice if it is to mean anything.

 

[MAD]

Also for the ones who don’t know; Just like Hamas, Goebbels loved his antisemitic ideology so much more than he loved his own children; that he and his wife poisoned their children in their sleep to prevent them from surviving the downfall of their twisted worldview.

I started listening to a podcast on the rise and downfall. Did you know that they also named all their children starting with the letter H in honor of Hitler?

 

[n_huffhines]

 

[volfanhill]

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Kind of goes against the narrative that Israel tells us what to do. Can't say I have seen you espouse that but I have seen it in this thread

 

[MAD]

 

[MAD]

I googled “Arab migration to Palestine”

This was the AI overview.


During the late 19th and early 20th centuries, particularly under the British Mandate, there was significant Arab migration to Palestine, primarily from neighboring regions like Syria, Lebanon, and Egypt. This migration was largely driven by economic opportunities arising from Jewish settlement and British development initiatives. Sources say the influx of Jewish capital and infrastructure projects created new jobs and improved living conditions, attracting both skilled and unskilled laborers.

Here's a more detailed look:

• Economic Factors:
  Jewish immigration to Palestine, starting in the late 1800s, led to economic growth and the development of new industries, particularly in agriculture and construction. This created a demand for labor that attracted Arabs seeking better livelihoods.
  
• British Mandate Era:
  The British Mandate period (1920-1948) saw further development and infrastructure projects, further stimulating economic activity and attracting more Arab migrants.
  
• • Scale of Migration:
    Some sources estimate that between 300,000 and 400,000 Arabs migrated to Palestine between 1897 and 1948.
    
  • Regional Origins:
    Arab migrants came from various parts of the Middle East, including Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, and other parts of the Ottoman Empire.
    
  • Impact on Palestinian Identity:
    While some argue that this migration contributed to the formation of a distinct Palestinian identity, others emphasize the continuity of indigenous populations and the adoption of Arab culture over time.
    
  • Tensions:
    The influx of both Jewish and Arab migrants contributed to demographic shifts and tensions in the region, ultimately playing a role in the events leading up to the 1948 Arab-Israeli War.

 

[n_huffhines]

Kind of goes against the narrative that Israel tells us what to do. Can't say I have seen you espouse that but I have seen it in this thread

They do because we let them. Been saying for 19 mos all we gotta do is make them feel the threat of cutting off the milk teet

 

[volfanhill]

They do because we let them. Been saying for 19 mos all we gotta do is make them feel the threat of cutting off the milk teet

They tell us what to do but bend the knee when we tell them to do what we want. That's bizarre logic.

They jump when we say jump bc their existence is dependent on us.

They don't tell us what to do. Either we agree or they
Have convinced us it's in our best interest.

The claims that the evil Jews are manipulating us is absurd


Now the ugly truth for some may be that our political leadership, both parties, want Hamas gone.

 

[MAD]

They do because we let them. Been saying for 19 mos all we gotta do is make them feel the threat of cutting off the milk teet

US aid constitutes about 1% of Israel's GDP.

 

[MAD]

They tell us what to do but bend the knee when we tell them to do what we want. That's bizarre logic.

They jump when we say jump bc their existence is dependent on us.

They don't tell us what to do. Either we agree or they
Have convinced us it's in our best interest.

The claims that the evil Jews are manipulating us is absurd


Now the ugly truth for some may be that our political leadership, both parties, want Hamas gone.

Exactly this.

United States benefits from the alliance with Israel as well.
Including counterterrorism security and intelligence.
Both nations share a spirit of innovation and development, constantly seeking to advance in areas like medicine and technology.

 

[n_huffhines]

They tell us what to do but bend the knee when we tell them to do what we want. That's bizarre logic.

They jump when we say jump bc their existence is dependent on us.

They don't tell us what to do. Either we agree or they
Have convinced us it's in our best interest.

The claims that the evil Jews are manipulating us is absurd


Now the ugly truth for some may be that our political leadership, both parties, want Hamas gone.

"Evil Jews are manipulating us"

FFS

You don't think it's possible that we both bend to their will, but have the actual mechanism of power behind us (the purse)?

Is it really that bizarre? Seems like that's just how special interests work. Did I just explain DC to you?

 

[volfanhill]

You don't think it's possible that we both bend to their will, but have the actual mechanism of power behind us (the purse)?

Is it really that bizarre? Seems like that's just how special interests work. Did I just explain DC to you?

No. I'd argue we don't bend to their will. We are either persuaded by them that something is in our best interests or we already agree. Us telling them to do what when we want is proof of that. You have the relationship dynamic messed up. You literally posted a claim that Israel only did something be we insisted. That's proof. Can you show any evidence where we did anything we didn't ultimately agree with?

Every single thing that's happened in Gaza and Iran has happened with our tacit approval at minimum.

 

[n_huffhines]

No. I'd argue we don't bend to their will. We are either persuaded by them that something is in our best interests or we already agree. Us telling them to do what when we want is proof of that. You have the relationship dynamic messed up. You literally posted a claim that Israel only did something be we insisted. That's proof. Can you show any evidence where we did anything we didn't ultimately agree with?

Every single thing that's happened in Gaza and Iran has happened with our tacit approval at minimum.

I honestly don't even understand what your point is.

They have a ton of influence over us. Not just both sides of the aisle in DC, but over universities and the MSM. You're saying they're not bending us to their will because what they do, they do with our tacit approval? I don't follow the logic. I would say the fact that they have tacit approval shows the strenght of their ability to bend us to their will. They have been bending us to their will for decades. What do you think you've proven here?

The ugly truth that our leaders want Hamas gone? That's all part of it. That's part of being influenced by Israel....you somehow think the fact that we're actually in agreement about giving Israel what they want is proof that they don't have influence over us? Sincerely, WTF?

I really can't make sense of any of your points. You're drawing the worst conclusions from things that probably support my case.

The DNC does not represent liberal voters at all right now on the issue of Israel, and they don't have any interest in budging. The DNC only does what's in their best interest, and that's what they're doing here. Israel is one of their favorite special interests.

 

[n_huffhines]

We agreed to give Israel tens of billions of dollars to kill little kids. And we keep the money coming no matter what. How can you say they bend us to their will? That's bizarre logic.