Israel vs Palestinians

[Orangeslice13]

Unless you’re an Fing moron who thinks the IDF targets civilians

 

[Smokey123]

People getting upset about the Palestine flag is a good indicator of how much pro-Israel propaganda the right has consumed

You’d be ok with them flying Israel flags over government buildings?

 

[Smokey123]

Them that's killing them are responsible for their deaths. Thanks for playing.

Wait. So if someone robs a bank and holds everyone hostage. Swat makes a decision to go in and one of the hostages dies, swat is responsible for the death? The people who kidnapped a group of individuals and held them hostage have no responsibility for the death?

 

[Vol8188]

Wait. So if someone robs a bank and holds everyone hostage. Swat makes a decision to go in and one of the hostages dies, swat is responsible for the death? The people who kidnapped a group of individuals and held them hostage have no responsibility for the death?

If you start a war, are told by the other side to evacuate your family because they’re about to start invading, refuse to do so, go home every night to your family, and eventually both you and your family are killed….

It’s Israel’s fault. That’s his actual stance in this

 

[dalton_vol]

Edit: My bad, not Christians. Romans. I thought it was a Christian emperor.

To clarify, Christian emperors maintained the ban on Jews.

roman emperors sent Christians to fight lions in arenas. I don't consider them Christians.

 

[sonofUT62]

Wait. So if someone robs a bank and holds everyone hostage. Swat makes a decision to go in and one of the hostages dies, swat is responsible for the death? The people who kidnapped a group of individuals and held them hostage have no responsibility for the death?

That’s actually how the law works in most states.

 

[Smokey123]

That’s actually how the law works in most states.

Not exactly. (I believe) The robber would get murder charges, the law enforcement would get a lawsuit, lengthy investigation and potentially a manslaughter charge

 

[n_huffhines]

@dalton_vol

The Roman emperors who did that weren't the Christian ones, FFS. What King John does has nothing to do with King Henry, of course.

It doesn't matter if you consider them Christians...Jews, Muslims, and history books do.

 

[Orangeslice13]

@dalton_vol

The Roman emperors who did that weren't the Christian ones, FFS. What King John does has nothing to do with King Henry, of course.

It doesn't matter if you consider them Christians...Jews, Muslims, and history books do.

This is a weird little tangent yall have embarked upon.

 

[sonofUT62]

Not exactly. (I believe) The robber would get murder charges, the law enforcement would get a lawsuit, lengthy investigation and potentially a manslaughter charge

No I was agreeing with you. That bank robbers would catch a charge even if they didn’t pull the trigger.

 

[NashVol11]

Israeli army admits civilians make up 80 percent of those killed in Gaza since March

Israel privately relies on the Palestinian Health Ministry's figures for the total death toll, while publicly dismissing the data as unreliable

thecradle.co

 

[NashVol11]

You’d be ok with them flying Israel flags over government buildings?

Has been done several times and our resident Israel crew didn't have a single word to say about it

Israeli flag flies over WA Capitol in wake of Hamas attack

www.kuow.org

 

[Vol8188]

Israeli army admits civilians make up 80 percent of those killed in Gaza since March

Israel privately relies on the Palestinian Health Ministry's figures for the total death toll, while publicly dismissing the data as unreliable

thecradle.co

They’re comparing it to Ukraine for the civilian to combatant kill ratio in your article.

Given one is a uniformed military (Ukraine) who evacuated massive numbers of women and children when the war started, wouldn’t you expect the ratio in Ukraine to be better?

Uniforms, less civilians per capita those seem like they should make a major difference.

 

[Vol8188]

Has been done several times and our resident Israel crew didn't have a single word to say about it

Israeli flag flies over WA Capitol in wake of Hamas attack

www.kuow.org

That wasn’t the question.

 

[Smokey123]

Has been done several times and our resident Israel crew didn't have a single word to say about it

Israeli flag flies over WA Capitol in wake of Hamas attack

www.kuow.org

And you support that?

 

[NashVol11]

They’re comparing it to Ukraine for the civilian to combatant kill ratio in your article.

Given one is a uniformed military (Ukraine) who evacuated massive numbers of women and children when the war started, wouldn’t you expect the ratio in Ukraine to be better?

Uniforms, less civilians per capita those seem like they should make a major difference.

If we should expect Israel's ratio to be worse than Ukraine's, then Israel should stop lying and saying it's a 1:1 ratio. When you're saying anything below 2.8:1 is unrealistic, 1:1 seems like a lie so egregious that they really think their supporters are idiots. Can't have it both ways

 

[NashVol11]

And you support that?

I don't, but again, no one here complained about it only to turn around and bitch about the Palestine flag

 

[Smokey123]

I don't, but again, no one here complained about it only to turn around and bitch about the Palestine flag

I only saw one post about the Palestine flag getting raised (maybe I missed some other ones) and it was just an article. Was there anyone that supports flying the Israel flag over government buildings?

I mean if you look at the comments under the tweet you posted people are not happy at all.

You even said people getting upset over it were subject to pro-Israel propaganda, so I guess I just fail to see what point you were making if you don’t support it either. You’re a subject to pro-Israel propaganda?

 

[Vol8188]

If we should expect Israel's ratio to be worse than Ukraine's, then Israel should stop lying and saying it's a 1:1 ratio. When you're saying anything below 2.8:1 is unrealistic, 1:1 seems like a lie so egregious that they really think their supporters are idiots. Can't have it both ways

Wasn’t your entire article based on what Israel said? Odd to follow that with “they should stop lying!”.

But you’re still missing the overall point. Their ratio, even the one in your article, isn’t significantly worse than what we are seeing in Ukraine despite several factors that make it more difficult (lack of uniforms, dense populations, refusal to evacuate civilians, outright efforts by Hamas to prevent evacuation, etc).

Do you not intend on acknowledging that reality?

 

[volfanhill]

I don't, but again, no one here complained about it only to turn around and bitch about the Palestine flag

The elected government of Palestine kidnapped and murdred US citizens

 

[Orangeslice13]

They’re comparing it to Ukraine for the civilian to combatant kill ratio in your article.

Given one is a uniformed military (Ukraine) who evacuated massive numbers of women and children when the war started, wouldn’t you expect the ratio in Ukraine to be better?

Uniforms, less civilians per capita those seem like they should make a major difference.

We will literally post anything we agree with on this board.
Who cares if the source is BS and makes up damn near everything they report

 

[Orangeslice13]

I don't, but again, no one here complained about it only to turn around and bitch about the Palestine flag

So you agree it should be neither?

 

[Orangeslice13]

I only saw one post about the Palestine flag getting raised (maybe I missed some other ones) and it was just an article. Was there anyone that supports flying the Israel flag over government buildings?

I mean if you look at the comments under the tweet you posted people are not happy at all.

You even said people getting upset over it were subject to pro-Israel propaganda, so I guess I just fail to see what point you were making if you don’t support it either. You’re a subject to pro-Israel propaganda?

Lol

That’s funny

 

[NashVol11]

The elected government of Palestine kidnapped and murdred US citizens

The "elected government of Palestine" has their own separate flag, no need to call everything Hamas every 5 seconds

 

[NashVol11]

Wasn’t your entire article based on what Israel said? Odd to follow that with “they should stop lying!”.

But you’re still missing the overall point. Their ratio, even the one in your article, isn’t significantly worse than what we are seeing in Ukraine despite several factors that make it more difficult (lack of uniforms, dense populations, refusal to evacuate civilians, outright efforts by Hamas to prevent evacuation, etc).

Do you not intend on acknowledging that reality?

It's funny to accuse me of "not acknowledging a reality" when Israel said their ratio was 1:1 and you were good with that, then this article says it's 4:1 and you're making "of course it couldn't be lower" excuses about that too. Like I said, can't have it both ways