Israel vs Palestinians II

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EasternVol said:
Yet Israel's treatment of them is as awful as the 'dangerous' ones. Which is a big part of why we're where we are.
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Any worse than how Hamas treats those?

I don't disagree with your post, though. Has there ever been a conflict (war, battle, police action or whatever euphemism people use) between societies where non dangerous people are spared suffering and death?
 
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EasternVol said:
Yet Israel's treatment of them is as awful as the 'dangerous' ones. Which is a big part of why we're where we are.
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In a large part because the dangerous ones choose to hide behind, around and under everyone else. Their whole MO is to subject them to every horror imaginable for political purposes.

Israel isn't innocent in this but I feel it must be started in the context of the horrors playing out.
 
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McDad said:
Any worse than how Hamas treats those?

I don't disagree with your post, though. Has there ever been a conflict (war, battle, police action or whatever euphemism people use) between societies where non dangerous people are spared suffering and death?
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Hamas is rotten no doubt but in scale of course the IDF is much worse as the IDF has much more opportunity for mayhem.
There haven't been many wars where non dangerous people were spared but efforts are often made. In this one, nobody's even trying much.
 
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EasternVol said:
Hamas is rotten no doubt but in scale of course the IDF is much worse as the IDF has much more opportunity for mayhem.
There haven't been many wars where non dangerous people were spared but efforts are often made. In this one, nobody's even trying much.
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We cannot possibly know what efforts are/are not made. If you wanna believe in a hypothetical, that's your choice.

Here are the truths as I see them:
* Israel has more power and more resources. Gaza exists today because Israel wills it.
* Palestinians in Gaza have not shown ability to self govern.
* Israel kills Palestinians.
* Palestinians kill Jews and Palestinians.
* The conflict is destined to continue until the end times.
 
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McDad said:
Only the middle, if I remember correctly. Something like up to 25 miles off coast is territory and 200 miles is economic border.
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Depends on who you ask. General rule of thumb is 12 and 200.

Either way, if you're 70 miles out, as the flotilla geeks claim to be, and you're openly proclaiming that you're bringing "aid" to a war zone without permission, you're going to be stopped and sent home. There is not a country in the world that would allow these twerps to get anywhere close. Many countries would give one warning and then sink the boat. These tools are only digging in because, despite all their accusations, they know that Israel will not harm them.
 
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JOEY’S ALL VOL !!! said:
I can see it too, but I didn’t comment cause I think you’re just showing off. That kind of brilliance needs contained.
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I missed my calling as a megalomaniac intent on world domination. But it wasn't for lack of effort. I tried to register for the class in college but it was full.
 
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The Israeli Navy intercepted the latest flotilla attempting to break the maritime blockade around the Gaza Strip on Wednesday and took Greta Thunberg and other activists into custody.

Footage from the scene on the Mediterranean shows the navy vessels intercepting the 47 boats that make up the Global Sumud Flotilla, which organizers say is carrying more than 500 activists, including climate advocate Thunberg.

The Swedish activist was seen sitting on the ground as Israeli sailors presented her belongings to her so that she could be taken into custody.


“Already several vessels of the Hamas-Sumud flotilla have been safely stopped and their passengers are being transferred to an Israeli port,” Israel’s Foreign Ministry posted on X. “Greta and her friends are safe and healthy.”

Those aboard the ships could be seen chanting “Free Palestine!” as their journey game to an end about 100 miles from their intended destination, similar to the failed venture in June.

The floatilla members claimed Israeli warships were jamming their communications and live cameras just before the flotilla was intercepted.

“They are currently hailing our vessels, telling us to turn off our engines and await further instructions or our boats will be seized and we will face the consequences,” said Greg Stoker, an American veteran aboard one of the boats in the flotilla.

Italian Foreign Minister Antonio Tajani said the activists would be taken to Ashdod, where Israel houses a naval base, and would then be expelled from the country.

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Greta Thunberg and a crew member flash victory signs from their ship, part of the Global Sumud Flotilla aiming to reach Gaza and break Israel’s naval blockade, as they sail off Crete island, Greece, September 25, 2025.

Tajani said he had received assurances from his Israeli counterpart that no violence would be used against the flotilla.

The activists had previously rejected Israel’s calls for the boats to turn around and arrive at the Jewish state, where the military offered to take charge of the humanitarian aid on board and deliver it to Gaza.

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Members of the group of ships of the Global Sumud Flotilla to Gaza are seen moored at the small island of Koufonisi, south of the island of Crete, on September 26, 2025.

Greta Thunberg’s flotilla detained by Israel yet again after trying to reach Gaza

Footage from the scene on the Mediterranean shows the navy vessels intercepting the 47 boats that make up the Global Sumud Flotilla, which organizers say is carrying more than 500 activists.
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bamawriter said:
Depends on who you ask. General rule of thumb is 12 and 200.

Either way, if you're 70 miles out, as the flotilla geeks claim to be, and you're openly proclaiming that you're bringing "aid" to a war zone without permission, you're going to be stopped and sent home. There is not a country in the world that would allow these twerps to get anywhere close. Many countries would give one warning and then sink the boat. These tools are only digging in because, despite all their accusations, they know that Israel will not harm them.
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I doubt many countries would be stupid enough to sink an unarmed aid ship. Maybe Myanmar, NK, or some other pariah.
 
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