Israel vs Palestinians II

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Vol8188 said:
So you can say the exact same thing as long as you use the word “Israeli”?

That’s your real defense?
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You completely made something up about "'most Jews are evil' - Nash" and are saying it's close enough? That's your real defense? Are you f***ing serious?

The number in the tweet is based on early support for the war in Israel, you're trying so hard to create "racism" out of nothing that I doubt anyone here even understands your point
 
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NashVol11 said:
You completely made something up about "'most Jews are evil' - Nash" and are saying it's close enough? That's your real defense? Are you f***ing serious?

The number in the tweet is based on early support for the war in Israel, you're trying so hard to create "racism" out of nothing that I doubt anyone here even understands your point
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So you shared a tweet that falsely implied 90% of Israelis are “depraved” and laugh at the murder of Palestinians?

Your defense for sharing this is:

1. They didn’t say Jews
2. The 90% number comes from something completely different.

How does that help your case? Misrepresenting the 90% number only makes the tweet even worse.
 
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NashVol11 said:
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So the 90% number isn’t the number of people laughing but rather early war support and “they didn’t say Jews”.

So it’s okay to pretend the overwhelming number of Israeli citizens are evil based on misrepresented statistics….as long as you don’t call them Jews?

I’d have more respect for you at this point if you just said “yeah, I hate Jews”. At least you’d be honest. This is pathetic
 
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NashVol11 said:
You completely made something up about "'most Jews are evil' - Nash" and are saying it's close enough? That's your real defense? Are you f***ing serious?

The number in the tweet is based on early support for the war in Israel, you're trying so hard to create "racism" out of nothing that I doubt anyone here even understands your point
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On the contrary, anyone with a pulse understands what he said.
 
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Vol8188 said:
So you shared a tweet that falsely implied 90% of Israelis are “depraved” and laugh at the murder of Palestinians?

Your defense for sharing this is:

1. They didn’t say Jews
2. The 90% number comes from something completely different.

How does that help your case? Misrepresenting the 90% number only makes the tweet even worse.
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Anyone who supports genocide is depraved. No one thinks 90% of Israel is on TikTok lol, it was saying they represent those who support this and the point wasn't the caption anyway
 
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Vol8188 said:
So the 90% number isn’t the number of people laughing but rather early war support and “they didn’t say Jews”.

So it’s okay to pretend the overwhelming number of Israeli citizens are evil based on misrepresented statistics….as long as you don’t call them Jews?

I’d have more respect for you at this point if you just said “yeah, I hate Jews”. At least you’d be honest. This is pathetic
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Anyone who supports genocide is evil; whether it's 10% or 100% is on them, not me. I love Jews.
 
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KB5252 said:
People are going to call me heartless but that couldn't be further from the truth. I believe too many of you are too concerned/entrenched on what is happening right now.

While I'm not dismissing it, or at least I'm not trying to, it isn't nearly as important as where we go from here....or the end point.

I don't see a two state solution as an option. Maybe before Oct 7th and the response but not now. There's no bridge to build if we don't know where we're going.

what is Israel's stated end game? I've seen a few answers so I'd like to see their clearly stated terms for surrender.
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2 state was never going to happen because of the powers that be

Israel’s end game is not to end the war. Bibi wants this, anyone who denies that is naive and it puts Jews in a bad spot.
Just look at Bibi’s own words last month talking about feeling a historical and spiritual connection to Greater Israel
 
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Smokey123 said:
2 state was never going to happen because of the powers that be

Israel’s end game is not to end the war. Bibi wants this, anyone who denies that is naive and it puts Jews in a bad spot.
Just look at Bibi’s own words last month talking about feeling a historical and spiritual connection to Greater Israel
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So what do you think his end game is?

In your statement you said he wants this........ What is this? Extended conflict? If so the question remains to what end.
 
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The IDF are advancing rapidly across Gaza City, taking minimal casualties and exploiting their overwhelming firepower, manpower, and air superiority to render all resistance suicidally futile.

As in previous instances when Hamas had the opportunity to stand and fight against the IDF, their forces are collapsing entirely. Once again, the casandras who warned of a quagmire have been proven wrong. Those who claimed Hamas had recruited 25,000 new men and returned to their pre-war strength—relying entirely on pro-Hamas propaganda—should remember their mistake next time. There were many indications not only that Hamas had failed to rebuild, but that they had been reduced to just a few thousand armed men, with ample evidence that they were also short of weapons and ammunition. They have been entirely cut off from resupply for 2 years now.

The war will not end with Hamas losing Gaza City—which, at the current pace, will happen within weeks—but Israel will then be able to establish an internal perimeter and freeze the situation. Hamas may still hold hostages, but Israel will hold the stronger hand. With their capital lost forever and largely destroyed, no one will credibly claim Hamas as the victors.

Israel could easily and justifiably declare the Gideon’s Chariots operation concluded within weeks and shift to a purely counter-terror posture against Hamas remnants hiding among the civilian population in the humanitarian zone. Fighting out of that zone, or from the few remaining towns in the center of the strip, is far less advantageous for Hamas than making a stand in Gaza City. The logical conclusion is that they didn’t fight there because they couldn’t—or because their remaining fighters largely melted away.

A side note: there is a certain comedy in the prospect that the Greta-branded Jihadi-Marxist flotilla, currently meandering fractiously across the Mediterranean, may reach Gaza only to find the IDF firmly in control of the port. At the present pace, it’s a race to see who gets there first.

 
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KB5252 said:
So what do you think his end game is?

In your statement you said he wants this........ What is this? Extended conflict? If so the question remains to what end.
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I think roads lead to ethnic cleansing but I think that’s disputable

What we do know is they released a 5 point plan. Taking security control of the territory and establishing alternative administration that is not the PA or Hamas was two of them. Who does that leave? Bibi has openly expressed wanting full control over Gaza rn Israel says they have 75% of it

Greater Israel at minimum would include West Bank, Gaza Strip, Golan heights (potentially much more but Bibi didn’t state how far he’d go) As soon as Assad fell Israel made moves on Golan Heights

So yes extended conflict to justify taking over territory
 
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Smokey123 said:
2 state was never going to happen because of the powers that be

Israel’s end game is not to end the war. Bibi wants this, anyone who denies that is naive and it puts Jews in a bad spot.
Just look at Bibi’s own words last month talking about feeling a historical and spiritual connection to Greater Israel
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I said very early the only hope for a 2 state was a rapid end. The longer this went the less likely it became. It’s as much the fault of Hamas as Bengi (and you know I’m no Bengi fan)
 
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