Israel vs Palestinians II

[rekinhavoc]

Netanyahu Raps Cindy McCain for Claiming Gaza 'Starving' After Privately Admitting Improvement

Netanyahu said Cindy McCain, chief of the World Food Program and widow of the late Sen. John McCain (R), was exaggerating claims about Gaza.

www.breitbart.com

 

[volbound1700]

People making the argument that it's antisemitic to care about and dislike what's happening in Gaza would accuse a wall of antisemitism

You literally didn't even read my post about the part where I said I really didn't think you were.

You are a sheep. You don't think for yourself or consider alternative viewpoints or do empirical research. It is clear.

There is a bigger world out there besides your partisan bubble.

 

[NCFisher]

Then it's a terrible point. Someone who is explicitly antisemitic has no bearing on the millions of people who oppose Zionism and Israel's actions

Israel is inseparable from the Israeli Jew who calls it home - Zion - and intends not to leave it. Zion isn't a cute puppy you can name whatever you want; it's the Jews' home. Mr. Knife Attack just said the quiet part out loud. Many simply use 'Zionist' to say if softly.

Whatever you want it to mean is inconsequential; the term anti-Zionist expresses the idea that Israel should not exist. It is the meaning even among the ultra-orthodox Jewish sects of Israel who believe Israel has no right to exist, and even support Hamas, PLO, Iran goals of destroying it.

Some who babble about Zionists but genuinely "have Jew friends" have navel-gazing notions that it's just protesting treatment of Palestinians, or lack of 2-state solution.

Zion and anti-Zionist have meaning. Aside from the suicidal sect Jews, every Jew living there is a Zionist; there's no hair to split.

So what do you tell yourself being anti-Zionist is?

 

[MAD]

There was also names of 2 far right extremist that attacked mosques, along with 6+ other mass shooters

I think they wanted to cause as much chaos as possible and it’s worked. I’ve seen people link him to Judaism, Christian, Jewish, far left, far right, anti government, anti maga, etc. an insane nut job that people shouldn’t politicize

He never mentioned Buddhism.
Clearly he must have been a Buddhist.

 

[Smokey123]

I can't find it, you may be right. It was something along the lines of given the genocide you would expect bigotry to increase against Jewish people. And it not being about their being Jews. Like you said, it may not have been you, I don't see it now, maybe didn't go back far enough but I had just read it then saw your post I responded to.

Bigotry is natural, but should be resisted within your internal dialogue.

I don't consider 9/11 to be a slight reason. Though I admit when I flew on a plane not long after and seeing two Arab men on the plane fighting back anxiety at them bring on my flight.

It was huff

I think this is a fair response. People have to fight that inner bigotry and not let that be the response. A small group is not an indictment on the entire group of people

 

[NashVol11]

You literally didn't even read my post about the part where I said I really didn't think you were.

You are a sheep. You don't think for yourself or consider alternative viewpoints or do empirical research. It is clear.

There is a bigger world out there besides your partisan bubble.

I read it. You still went through the whole whataboutism exercise of making that argument only to walk it back at the end. The sheep would be the one dumb enough to make that stupid argument because you saw it on the Internet somewhere.

wHy Do YoU cArE aBoUt ThE hOlOcAuSt MoRe ThAn OtHeR gEnOcIdEs? MuSt Be PrEjUdIcE! See how dumb that sounds

 

[Smokey123]

He never mentioned Buddhism.
Clearly he must have been a Buddhist.

Honestly wouldn’t be surprised if she did. I watched the 10 minute video she posted on YT (don’t recommend). References to everythingggg and slurs about every group from gays to Mexicans

 

[volbound1700]

I read it. You still went through the whole whataboutism exercise of making that argument only to walk it back at the end. The sheep would be the one dumb enough to make that stupid argument because you saw it on the Internet somewhere.

wHy Do YoU cArE aBoUt ThE hOlOcAuSt MoRe ThAn OtHeR gEnOcIdEs? MuSt Be PrEjUdIcE! See how dumb that sounds

It sounds like your a brainwashed media shrill that just falls the left on all issues. You are no better than the MAGA people you criticize and your mentality is why Trump is President. Let that sink in.

 

[NashVol11]

It sounds like your a brainwashed media shrill that just falls the left on all issues. You are no better than the MAGA people you criticize and your mentality is why Trump is President. Let that sink in.

You're* follows*? Idk what you were going for there but you have typed a lot of words over 2 pages to make the argument that being on the left and opposing genocide is somehow problematic lol, what a great point

 

[Rickyvol77]

This is an ongoing genocide being directly funded (and constantly defended) by our own leaders. People are getting arrested for even speaking against it. Weak whataboutism

Must be an awful terribly planned "genocide" since the "targeted" population has grown in size every year the past decade including this one.

People aren't being arrested for speaking against it, they are being arrested for the usual BS (vandalism, trespassing, blocking streets)

 

[volbound1700]

Israel is inseparable from the Israeli Jew who calls it home - Zion - and intends not to leave it. Zion isn't a cute puppy you can name whatever you want; it's the Jews' home. Mr. Knife Attack just said the quiet part out loud. Many simply use 'Zionist' to say if softly.

Whatever you want it to mean is inconsequential; the term anti-Zionist expresses the idea that Israel should not exist. It is the meaning even among the ultra-orthodox Jewish sects of Israel who believe Israel has no right to exist, and even support Hamas, PLO, Iran goals of destroying it.

Some who babble about Zionists but genuinely "have Jew friends" have navel-gazing notions that it's just protesting treatment of Palestinians, or lack of 2-state solution.

Zion and anti-Zionist have meaning. Aside from the suicidal sect Jews, every Jew living there is a Zionist; there's no hair to split.

So what do you tell yourself being anti-Zionist is?

I really don't think huff, NashVol, EasternVol, etc. are anti-Semitic or Anti-Zionists; i just think they are just ignorant zombies that follow what the lying media says and don't question anything. They are basically the Walking Dead. They are also, likely, afraid to admit they are wrong or consider any kind of change on their position even if you have quality data that contradicts their position.

 

[NashVol11]

Must be an awful terribly planned "genocide" since the "targeted" population has grown in size every year the past decade including this one.

People aren't being arrested for speaking against it, they are being arrested for the usual BS (vandalism, trespassing, blocking streets)

The admin arrested a student for writing an op-ed, and you have no idea what the population of Gaza "this year" is

 

[Smokey123]

Must be an awful terribly planned "genocide" since the "targeted" population has grown in size every year the past decade including this one.

People aren't being arrested for speaking against it, they are being arrested for the usual BS (vandalism, trespassing, blocking streets)

The population did not grow the past year

 

[volbound1700]

Must be an awful terribly planned "genocide" since the "targeted" population has grown in size every year the past decade including this one.

People aren't being arrested for speaking against it, they are being arrested for the usual BS (vandalism, trespassing, blocking streets)

He is a zombie . What is funny is that even if he even acknowledges our arguments, he is likely too prideful and stubborn to admit he is wrong. Good luck with him.

 

[Rickyvol77]

The admin arrested a student for writing an op-ed, and you have no idea what the population of Gaza "this year" is

They arrested him because he was on visa and they pulled it because of his anti US pro terrorist views. Which is 100% legal and allowed.

 

[NashVol11]

He is a zombie . What is funny is that even if he even acknowledges our arguments, he is likely too prideful and stubborn to admit he is wrong. Good luck with him.

Similarly, if you don't like the Holocaust but haven't spoken out against every genocide between 1940 and today, it means you are a zombie. Great argument

 

[NashVol11]

They arrested him because he was on visa and they pulled it because of his anti US pro terrorist views. Which is 100% legal and allowed.

"People aren't being arrested for speaking against it. Also, they are, but it's legal"

You don't even need me, you can continue arguing against yourself lol

 

[Rickyvol77]

"People aren't being arrested for speaking against it. Also, they are, but it's legal"

You don't even need me, you can continue arguing against yourself lol

But what you suggested was a free speech issue, which doesn't apply to carded non-citizens.

You can't say "kill Jews" and "we want to destroy Western Civilization" and expect to keep your visa. We don't support terrorism

 

[NCFisher]

I really don't think huff, NashVol, EasternVol, etc. are anti-Semitic or Anti-Zionists; i just think they are just ignorant zombies that follow what the lying media says and don't question anything. They are basically the Walking Dead. They are also, likely, afraid to admit they are wrong or consider any kind of change on their position even if you have quality data that contradicts their position.

I'm not calling anyone antisemitic/anti-Jew but pointing out we can't communicate if using words improperly. Or recklessly.

This is why the left has tried to take language hostage and create a sort of pig-Latin that everyone right of Mao is to be vilified for not using. It's an authoritarian play to coerce speech as they want you to speak it, and thus coerce thought as they want you to think it.

 

[EasternVol]

Okay, a damned just offensive war.
Happy?

No, them taking the lands and putting the residents under apartheid occupation didn't bring me joy. Did it make you happy?

 

[EasternVol]

Show me facts that I am wrong? They have warred against every non-Muslim religion that they have encountered since the 7th Century. They killed off the ancient peoples in the Middle East. At their height, they invaded France, sacked Rome (tried to kill the Pope), invaded Sicily, Italy, etc.

Ottomans are still hated by most native Balkan people today. Heck, even Romania considers Dracula a national hero for standing up to them. Freaking Dracula!

I can also point out what they have done in Africa and India as well. History don't lie. They are no better than the Nazis.

How does that compare to Christians, Buddhists, or in the distant past and since mid-20th Century, Jews?

 

[MemphisVol77]

I'm not calling anyone antisemitic/anti-Jew but pointing out we can't communicate if using words improperly. Or recklessly.

This is why the left has tried to take language hostage and create a sort of pig-Latin that everyone right of Mao is to be vilified for not using. It's an authoritarian play to coerce speech as they want you to speak it, and thus coerce thought as they want you to think it.

This, 100% !!!

I mocked the absurdity of their verbiage a while ago by pointing out that Israel ethnically cleansed the Gaza strip of Jews in 2005. I even posted definitions of ethnic cleansing from three different sources.

I got plenty of "ackshually......", explaining why it's not. They got half the point.

 

[NCFisher]

No, them taking the lands and putting the residents under apartheid occupation didn't bring me joy. Did it make you happy?

I'm happy anytime genocidal Islamists get their teeth kicked in. It was Ottoman land, who lost it fair and square just as they and the Arabs before them conquered and lost it.

The Arabs elected "apartheid occupation" by turning down coexistence with the Jews for 30 years until 1948. And then continued refusing coexistence. For Jew annihilation. The smart Arabs elected to become Israelis.

Tough lesson: Don't attack the guy who'll KYA, then complain about the boot in your arse.

 

[volbound1700]

How does that compare to Christians, Buddhists, or in the distant past and since mid-20th Century, Jews?

Well one difference is that people like you and most posters will b1tch and moan about oppression of Muslims in the Middle East (Palestine) but not say one word about oppression of Christians (Assyrians, Coptics, or Armenians).

I would say that is one STARK difference already.

I have already pointed out, to you, the fact that Muslims have taken significant territory from other religious groups and killed off their local population. Literally the only land that Muslims have been driven off of in record history is Ukraine (Tartars) and Iberia (Spanish Reconquista). Pretty much all of the Middle East, some of the Balkans, Central Asia, Pakistan, and most of Northern Africa were seized by Muslim Arabs (or Turks) and saw the local population driven off or exterminated.

 

[n_huffhines]

This, 100% !!!

I mocked the absurdity of their verbiage a while ago by pointing out that Israel ethnically cleansed the Gaza strip of Jews in 2005. I even posted definitions of ethnic cleansing from three different sources.

I got plenty of "ackshually......", explaining why it's not. They got half the point.

I don't care if you call it the same phrase. It's idiotic, but you can claim a win on a technicality if you want to.

The difference is in one instance, one group did it to itself peacefully while compensating the "cleansed" and in the other case a group is doing it to another group by killing 100,000+ of them in the process.

You can use the same phrase but it's not the same thing, and only an idiot would think you have a valid point. Only an idiot who argues in bad faith would reduce my response to "ackshually"