Islam is of the Devil?

#201
#201
volinbham said:
First, I need convincing that man's approaches to uncovering "truth" are complete in that they have the potential to explain everything.

along with compelling evidence that supranatural events/phenonema/etc. cannot exist.

Either of these satisfies the first condition that the rules of scientific inquiry (as we've been discussing them) are completely sufficient for explaining everything.

Then I would need compelling evidence that spiritually for lack of a better term is wholly explained by natural phenomena and occurences.

Then I would need a coherent and compelling explanation for the "beginning" as well as one (related to above) for why there has been a consistent thread of spirituality through human history that appears to be instinctual rather than learned.

That's the best I can come up with now.

My primary point to you though really lies with the first one - I don't share your faith in the infallibility and totality of scientific inquiry's ability to explain all - or put differently to question the existence of something simply because it might not be explainable via scientific inquiry.
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A lot of babble going on but this is good stuff....
 
#203
#203
Good grief, don't get him started on science. He will kill your children if you take science's name in vain!
 
#213
#213
utvolpj said:
which is the exact reason this argument is pointless. When one person can honestly say that

"Evolution isn't true since you have no proof"

and

"I don't need proof, I have faith"

it's beyond ridiculous
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It's placing your faith in one theory over another.

My argument with evolution isn't whether it happened, it's what was behind it's beginning.

I don't buy the exploding speck (Big Bang).

I firmly believe this Earth was seeded. EVERYTHING in nature works too perfectly to have 'just happened'.

Like it or not, we are somebody's or something's ant farm.
 
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#215
SavageOrangeJug said:
It's placing your faith in one theory over another.

My argument with evolution isn't whether it happened, it's what was behind it's beginning.

I don't buy the exploding speck (Big Bang).

I firmly believe this Earth was seeded. EVERYTHING in nature works too perfectly to have 'just happened'.

Like it or not, we are somebody's or something's ant farm.
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Too silly to believe. I would love to have met the person who thought of this. I bet he as a great sense of humor.

If any thing, I would go with Iron starting every thing.

The Iron Record Of Earth?s Oxygen / Science News
 
#216
#216
utvolpj said:
which is the exact reason this argument is pointless. When one person can honestly say that

"Evolution isn't true since you have no proof"

and

"I don't need proof, I have faith"

it's beyond ridiculous
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What's even more ridiculous is savages's sarcastic remark about the article he posted.
 
#221
#221
SavageOrangeJug said:
Anyone who doesn't agree with your opinions is an idiot?

With that train of thought, you would know idiocy well. First name basis would be my 'best guess'. :eek:k:
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Anytime someone tries to make snide comments on something they obvioulsy know nothing about is idiocy.

And your attempts at being clever is a huge fail.
 
#223
#223
rjd970 said:
Anytime someone tries to make snide comments on something they obvioulsy know nothing about is idiocy.

And your attempts at being clever is a huge fail.
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You don't have a clue how much I know about ANYTHING, nor do I about you.

You're just running that d***sucker of your's for the sake of running it.
 
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