Is there anywhere to watch "the catch"

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bleedorange0037 said:
None of those camera angles show the indisputable evidence that is required by rule to overturn a call. You can put the pieces of several different angles together and pretty much know for certain he never really held it, but that's just not the way replay works. Without a close up camera angle from the side that shows the recievers hands and the ball, that call would have stood, even if everybody, even the officials pretty much knew he didn't hold it.
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Well the NCAA disagrees with you. They had a "clarification" about the rules after that and basically said a player has to do more than just touch a ball to call it a catch.

The call was that bad. It wasn't even close. Even in slomo he didn't do more than touch the ball and everybody knew it.

It would have been overturned with replay even with the angles they had because there was definately indisputable evidence that he didn't catch the ball, the ball touched his hands and went right on through.

Now Florida could have scored on the next play, or they could have fumbled. Who knows but the official made sure they didn't have to do it.
 
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Like I said, if UT hadn't spent the entire game in the UF redzone only to come away with either 4 or 5 field goals none of the stuff at the end matters. But enough of this nonsense about that call losing the game for us. At worst, that call cost us a shot to beat them in OT, which was far from a sure thing. They would have either scored a TD to win on 3rd down or kicked a FG to tie on 4th. It's not like time ran out on the Gafney play.
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
I'm trying to tell my buddy who is a big Florida fan about the "phantom catch" of 2000. He says it didn't happen. I've tried googling and YouTubing it and I can't find the video anywhere. Does anyone have a link to it?
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Makes me want to vomit everytime I see it...Gaaahh!!! :sick:
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
Like I said, if UT hadn't spent the entire game in the UF redzone only to come away with either 4 or 5 field goals none of the stuff at the end matters. But enough of this nonsense about that call losing the game for us. At worst, that call cost us a shot to beat them in OT, which was far from a sure thing. They would have either scored a TD to win on 3rd down or kicked a FG to tie on 4th. It's not like time ran out on the Gafney play.
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That play still cost us the game. Regardless of what went on beforehand.
 
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Big Orange Junky said:
Well the NCAA (+ anyone with eyes) disagrees with you.

Now Florida could have scored on the next play, or they could have fumbled. Who knows but the official made sure they didn't have to do it.
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Ref goes by the name of "Allama (who has a gorilla for a momma) Matthews"
Vandy guy.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
Like I said, if UT hadn't spent the entire game in the UF redzone only to come away with either 4 or 5 field goals none of the stuff at the end matters. But enough of this nonsense about that call losing the game for us. At worst, that call cost us a shot to beat them in OT, which was far from a sure thing. They would have either scored a TD to win on 3rd down or kicked a FG to tie on 4th. It's not like time ran out on the Gafney play.
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Nostradamus
 
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Negateer said:
That play still cost us the game. Regardless of what went on beforehand.
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Only because you'd rather blame the ref than assign the proper blame, which is to say TN basically beat themselves that day. It's pretty tough to expect to beat a decent team when you throw a pick-6 and only score 1 TD on 5 trips into the red zone.
 
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Negateer said:
The call cost us the game.

Are you a UF fan?
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No. At most I'll concede that it cost us the shot to send the game into OT. UF was scoring at least 3 points on that drive. You know that. However, if it makes you feel better to think the ref stole it from us, have at it. The reality is UT had about 10 chances to put the game away before that and simply didn't do it. We should have been up by at least 10 at that point, but having shot ourselves in the foot all day in the red zone, that wasn't the case.
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
kinda like that chip shot FG they made in 98 to send the game into double overtime. Oh wait.
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Oh wait, the FG they missed in '98 was 15-20 yards longer than that. UF was looking at a FG that was literally going to be shorter than an extra point. There was probably a less that 1% chance he would have missed it.
 
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VolBeef88 said:
No, he's a realist.
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Apparently not. Apparently I'm actually being ridiculous. It seems my computer is tricking me by showing me a video where UF is given a HIGHLY questionable TD on 2nd down with about 30 seconds to go in the game. In fact, the way it actually happened is UF was awarded this TD either on 4th down or as time expired, I honestly don't know because that's not the video I'm seeing. I guess I just need to accept that if not for that call, we would have immediately walked off the field as winners.
 
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It was a bad call but it's not like UT didn't have a ton of chances that day. Also, the ineligible receiver penalty was iffy, at best.
 
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It wasn't a catch. Period. Earnest Graham's 4th down TD in the first half was a questionable call also. The illegal formation penalty on Reche Caldwell's TD catch was legit. We had trips receivers to one side of the formation, and two of the WRs were on the LOS.

Travis Henry was a beast. He also tripped over the 20 yard line on the way to a sure TD in the south end zone.

UT beat UF up and down the field the entire game, save for Lito's pick-6, and our final drive. UT should have beaten us by at least 2 TDs that day.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
It never should have come down to that. IIRC, we had the ball inside the 10 on MULTIPLE occasions, and just kept walking away with field goals. Just one touchdown on any of those opportunities and the game would have been out of reach. AJ Suggs also threw an awful pick 6, and in spite of all of that, if we could have just converted that 3rd and 1 with 2:30 left, UF would have had to burn all the timeouts just to have a prayer of getting the ball back. There is almost no way they could have gone 90 yards with no timeouts. UT had about 10 chances to put that game away, and simply never did it.
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This. It was amazing we couldn't pick up 1 freakin yard on that drive. The first play Henry had about a 12 yard gain called back due to illegal shift, and still picked up 14 yards on 1st and 2nd down. That 3 and 1 play call was kind of dumb, a slow developing sweep to the short side; reminded me of the 4th and 3 at Florida the year before.

It wasn't a catch but it shouldn't have come down to that at all. If UT had taken care of business the catch would be moot.
 
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Heck might as well add in UF was pinned inside their 10 with just over 2:00 to play, and the defense couldn't stop them.

Tons of blame to go around.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Heck might as well add in UF was pinned inside their 10 with just over 2:00 to play, and the defense couldn't stop them.

Tons of blame to go around.
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Which was exactly my point. I guess it's easier for some people to come to terms with the loss if they think the refs stole it from us, rather than the more accurate version of the story which is that we gave the game away.
 
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