Is Richardson the UT player with an NBA future?

#26
#26
McRae plays very similar to to Dale Ellis. Especially Dale's college and early pro career. Similar body type and athleticism.

Misinformed - Dale Ellis played around the rim while at UT. Dale Ellis was a physically strong athlete with normal length arms who developed an outstanding 3 point shot in the NBA. McRae at UT played nothing like Ellis at UT.
 
#27
#27
Moore is shorter but an explosive leaper. Richardson is long and athletic. I don't see the comparison?

Moore is 6-5, Richardson is 6-6. Not much difference there. Both really good athletes. Moore is less polished, but has two more years. Improved jumper. Great defender. Right now, I'd call him a poor man's JRich.
 
#28
#28
You don't get it...they won't come calling for his offense. His skill is to contain the other teams best wing scorer. Every NBA roster needs one of those.

Maybe I should've included "IMO" at the end of my post. I never said his value wouldn't be in his defense, but he also can't be a liability on offense. IMO, JMO, etc.
 
#29
#29
HUUUUHHH??? McRae is, by far, the best pure NBA talent on this team and probably since CJ Watson.

McRae will be extremely serviceable, if not a starter in the league. I will have a nice career and get paid well for doing so.

IMO your statement is nuts. He is the perfect size coupled with a long and rangy wingspan and ridiculous athleticism.

McRae plays very similar to to Dale Ellis. Especially Dale's college and early pro career. Similar body type and athleticism.

Not sure I agree with any of that. Dale Ellis? Really?
 
#30
#30
I like Moore and he would be the 6th man getting 20-25 minutes if I were the coach.

To me, he appears a much more compact explosive athlete. Richardson has a bit of that McRae length that can really bug somebody.
 
#31
#31
HUUUUHHH??? McRae is, by far, the best pure NBA talent on this team and probably since CJ Watson.

McRae will be extremely serviceable, if not a starter in the league. I will have a nice career and get paid well for doing so.

IMO your statement is nuts. He is the perfect size coupled with a long and rangy wingspan and ridiculous athleticism.

McRae plays very similar to to Dale Ellis. Especially Dale's college and early pro career. Similar body type and athleticism.

Mcrae's are a dime a dozen in the NBA, you can easily find volume shooters in any league. The only thing Mcrae and Dale Ellis have in common is they both played for UT. Dale is a much better shooter than Mcrae ever will be. Dale Ellis admitted that he always had great range and shooting ability even in college but coach DeVoe wanted him to play in the paint which is want the team needed at the team.
 
#32
#32
Woodbury exposed why stokes is a 2nd round pick no matter what. He's not getting any taller. Woodbury went right over him all night.

I dont know if I agree with that......I think stokes knows how valuable he is to our team....He tries to stay out of foul trouble and doesnt try to challenge the game as much if he is beaten.
 
#33
#33
Maybe I should've included "IMO" at the end of my post. I never said his value wouldn't be in his defense, but he also can't be a liability on offense. IMO, JMO, etc.

If he can consistently hit an open 15-17 footer 3 times a game, then he's not an offensive liability IMO IF he's a lock down wing defender. With the NBA shot clock, they only have enough time for a couple of scoring options in the half court. Everybody on the floor doesn't need to be the alpha scorer.
 
#34
#34
I like Moore and he would be the 6th man getting 20-25 minutes if I were the coach.

To me, he appears a much more compact explosive athlete. Richardson has a bit of that McRae length that can really bug somebody.

They do have a different body style. Moore outweighs JRich by 20 lbs too. I think their career development and strengths are very similar though.

Both good defenders first and foremost. Both are good slashers, both have a nice midrange game, and Moore is developing a better outside jumper at a similar pace as Josh.
 
#35
#35
Richardson still needs to improve his shot if he wants to play in the NBA. His three point percentage is pretty solid at 34% and his confidence and overall game have improved tremendously since he stepped on campus. I think a lot of us could see the potential. He's got a great mid-range shot but still needs to work on his form and finishing at the rim, which he did extremely well last night. His 2 pt. field goal percentage actually decreased a bit this year in less minutes, although it isn't a bad percentage, but needs to improve if he wants to play in the NBA.

Regardless, he played like a man last night and I am extremely happy for him, the players and coaching staff.
 
#36
#36
Mcrae's are a dime a dozen in the NBA, you can easily find volume shooters in any league. The only thing Mcrae and Dale Ellis have in common is they both played for UT. Dale is a much better shooter than Mcrae ever will be. Dale Ellis admitted that he always had great range and shooting ability even in college but coach DeVoe wanted him to play in the paint which is want the team needed at the team.

With no three-point line, Ellis had no incentive to shoot 20-footers either. His size was much more valuable in the paint.
 
#37
#37
They do have a different body style. Moore outweighs JRich by 20 lbs too. I think their career development and strengths are very similar though.

Both good defenders first and foremost. Both are good slashers, both have a nice midrange game, and Moore is developing a better outside jumper at a similar pace as Josh.

Hope you are right concerning the development. Moore and Hubbs are really going to have to step forward next year if UT is going to go dancing in 2015 (only possible if Stokes returns to man the post).
 
#38
#38
McRae and Ellis have almost exact body types and athleticism. McRae is most effective inside and on the baseline. Very similar to Ellis at UT and early with Seattle.

McRae - 6'6" 190
Ellis - 6'7" 200ish

The only "bad" comparison is because of the "era" and "positions" that they play(ed) in college.

From a pure size, body type and athleticism standpoint they are very similar.
 
#39
#39
Woodbury exposed why stokes is a 2nd round pick no matter what. He's not getting any taller. Woodbury went right over him all night.
I hadn't seen Stokes be that passive since the first Xavier game. I'm not Stokes so I don't know what goes on in his head, but he definitely backed off physically once he got that technical.

You can look at it two ways:

• Stokes got beat by a 7'1 white boy who will have a stint in the EURO league. Stokes is getting drafted for his rebounding and his control of the ball, not for his defense.

• Stokes has averaged almost a double double all year and has looked great against NBA bigs. (Last year when UCONN came and he man handled Andre Drummond).
 
#40
#40
Moore is shorter but an explosive leaper. Richardson is long and athletic. I don't see the comparison?

Their type of play? Richardson started off similar to Moore, both are athletic and defensive minded. Richardson was able to develop a shot, hopefully Moore can do the same.
 
#42
#42
I've been carrying water for JRich for two years now. The kid just gets it. He's smart, tough, athletic, fiery, and humble. He has improved every season, always gets the toughest defensive assignment, and is a class individual.

He is the one player who I feel probalby embodies what CCM sees as a "tougher breed", and he sees a lot of himself in Josh Richardson.

Couldn't have said it better. I've talked to him on campus and he is a great kid.
 
#43
#43
HUUUUHHH??? McRae is, by far, the best pure NBA talent on this team and probably since CJ Watson.

McRae will be extremely serviceable, if not a starter in the league. I will have a nice career and get paid well for doing so.

IMO your statement is nuts. He is the perfect size coupled with a long and rangy wingspan and ridiculous athleticism.

McRae plays very similar to to Dale Ellis. Especially Dale's college and early pro career. Similar body type and athleticism.

Tobias Harris says "Hello"

McRae will struggle in the league until he puts on 20-25 pounds of muscle. All 6'7 180 will get you on an NBA floor is "beat up"

Dale Ellis? Top 5 bball player in UT history, Dale Ellis....or did we have another Dale Ellis play at UT that I was unaware about?

I like McRae and his development has been off the charts the last 2-3 years (CCM anybody?), but to make that comparison is a little nuts!
 
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#44
#44
I love my team and love my Vols...but you guys are nuts.

all 3 people yall are talkin about MAY get into the NBA by the skin of their teeth, but then will probably only last a couple seasons at most until they are kicked into the Euro leagues...
 
#46
#46
I love my team and love my Vols...but you guys are nuts.

all 3 people yall are talkin about MAY get into the NBA by the skin of their teeth, but then will probably only last a couple seasons at most until they are kicked into the Euro leagues...

I think Stokes will be solid coming off the bench in the NBA. Time will tell.
 
#47
#47
I am amazed that posters actually think Stokes will play center in the pros. Wow.

Stokes will be a 4 - a PF. There is a reason he is working on his jumper from 15' in. There is a reason he has developed his Karl Malone moves across the lane. There is a reason he has changed his stroke on FTs. He may choose to stay and continue development at UT or he may go and develop his game in practice in the NBA if he gets the right draft grade/projection.

Richardson's stock will continue to soar as his confidence grows. He's a baller.
 
#48
#48
I've been carrying water for JRich for two years now. The kid just gets it. He's smart, tough, athletic, fiery, and humble. He has improved every season, always gets the toughest defensive assignment, and is a class individual.

He is the one player who I feel probalby embodies what CCM sees as a "tougher breed", and he sees a lot of himself in Josh Richardson.

+1

You and I both were laughed at for what we thought about Richie Rich, love it for the kid.
 
#49
#49
I've been saying this for a couple years now. I think Richardson has the best shot at sticking in the NBA of probably anyone we have.
 
#50
#50
Richardson has a shot. Better than Stokes? No. Better than McRae? Will we see next year. He can't have 5 or 6 game stretches where he scores single digits. His development has impressed me. He went from liability on O to sometimes dangerous. He just needs to be more consistent with his aggressiveness.
 
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