Is Josh Dobbs the Most underrated player in the nation?

[Defaultuser]

Or Butch Jones could not be so conservative.


You don't need to be down by a lot to put the game in your QBs hands.

Certain yokels have hated him since he took Worley's spot. Others just because of who he is, they don't mean ish. The people that matter know Josh's talent, why argue with the same 8-10 inbreds all the time. F'em.

 

[tonybologna]

Hmm. And what was our longest reception in the FL '015 game / was it not a 58 yrd pass to the qb ?? Lots of FL folks scoff at that play.

So, you blame Coach Jones for being all play-call conservative/running on 1st downs vs passing etc, in a year our offense totaled more gains than any recent year. Simultaneously, you're expecting Dobbs to up his ante from 2300 to 3500 passing yrs this year, while you portray last year's 4200-yarder Kelly as essentially-phony for playing in a gimmicky offense.

You logic is il, imo, on this topic of gimmicky offense (that is, anyone who passes =>3500 is gimmicky, except Dobbs).

Go VOLS !! Go Dobbs !!

You have to keep in mind for 2015 we had NO deep threats at WR. We really didn't! Josh Malone & Josh Smith are not deep threats. Preston Williams was probably our biggest deep threat but he's still more of a short-mid range WR.

Jennings sure as heck wasn't a deep threat either. We now are going to have Tyler Byrd & Marquez Callaway who both are deep threats. I'm sure Butch will use both of them in certain packages for the long ball.

 

[fester]

A QB who completes barely 60% of his passes, most of which are horizontal screens....a running QB who averages less than 5 yards per carry.....a QB who throws for less than 100 yards in a game every 5.5 starts and struggled mightily completing any passes downfield....a QB who's lost 8 of his 22 starts while playing in a historically bad SEC East.

No, he's not the most underrated player in the country. He's on the Heisman, OBrien and Maxwell Awards lists. He's the preseason 2nd team All-SEC QB. He's usually named the primary reason why Tennessee's expectations are so high.

He's an outstanding QB/player who gets a ton of publicity and mention for accolades. How in the world can he be called underrated? Makes zero sense.

This. x2

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

You're delusional. He's not even the best player on his team.

You don't have my gift. He's the best player in the history of the sport. It's not his fault that Butch Jones' cowardly game planning forces Josh to overthrow receivers.

 

[Iam4utalways]

You don't have my gift. He's the best player in the history of the sport. It's not his fault that Butch Jones' cowardly game planning forces Josh to overthrow receivers.

I wish your post wasn't so normal.

I'm with KB, Dobbs is a top rated QB, how is that underrated? I've watched a lot of film(replayed some of our games), and noticed many of the not in stride throws were deliberate to protect the ball or to protect the reciever. Dobbs tries not to lead his recievers into a tongue biter. Make them dive or change their route to keep them from getting hammered. Don't get me wrong he threw some stinkers, but so many strikes it's ridiculous.

No way is he underated, and nobody will overlook him. Every DC on the schedule is scratching their head trying to come up with a game plan to stop Dobbs and the Vols. There's gonna be a lot of sleepless nights and Dobbs and his crew is the reason why.

Go Vols!

 

[HoptownVol]

Certain yokels have hated him since he took Worley's spot. Others just because of who he is, they don't mean ish. The people that matter know Josh's talent, why argue with the same 8-10 inbreds all the time. F'em.

What the hell? Nobody on this board "hates" Dobbs, we all want him to be successful. But feel free to provide a detailed list of all these haters, good luck with that. :good!:

 

[armchair]

Let's be candid: Jones QB decisions two years ago weren't very smart. Dobbs was head and shoulders better than Worley because of his running ability alone. It should have been a no-brainer, but the brains of our offensive coaches were apparently in a power-saving mode two training camps ago. Worley was a gamer, but Dobbs should have started. That he didn't was really dumb--just as giving Peterman his first start against florida, at florida, was dumb.

 

[Iam4utalways]

What the hell? Nobody on this board "hates" Dobbs, we all want him to be successful. But feel free to provide a detailed list of all these haters, good luck with that. :good!:

Even pacer doesn't hate him, he just has nightmares about him.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

You missed one. They very much put it in his hands vs Arky last year when he threw it 36 times.

That was the game when the rest of the team decided not to show up.

 

[Iam4utalways]

That was the game when the rest of the team decided not to show up.

Not really, that's one of the games we jumped on them early and then relaxed.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Not really, that's one of the games we jumped on them early and then relaxed.

No. Players were devastated after the Florida loss and played with no fight that game. After Arkansas came back they just folded.

Its the only game all year last year they didn't play with passion.

 

[Iam4utalways]

No. Players were devastated after the Florida loss and played with no fight that game. After Arkansas came back they just folded.

Its the only game all year last year they didn't play with passion.

No you should watch more film. That's the game Berry ran the opening kickoff back for a TD, then the D shut them down, and our offense made it 14-0 quick. That's not a flat team, it's a team that relaxed. They blocked a field goal in the 4th, that's no folding.

 

[VOL-uh-tile]

That was the game when the rest of the team decided not to show up.

Not really, that's one of the games we jumped on them early and then relaxed.

Many factors in that game. Suddenly decided to turn Dobbs into pocket passer, not generating any pressure on their QB, secondary getting burned, etc. Once they figured us out in the first half, they shut us down. Hurd had 1 yd on 4 carries in the 2hf.

 

[Iam4utalways]

Many factors in that game. Suddenly decided to turn Dobbs into pocket passer, not generating any pressure on their QB, secondary getting burned, etc. Once they figured us out in the first half, they shut us down. Hurd had 1 yd on 4 carries in the 2hf.

Our hands were full stopping the run, plenty of blame to go around, but we came out hot and faded just as fast.

 

[butchna]

Certain yokels have hated him since he took Worley's spot. Others just because of who he is, they don't mean ish. The people that matter know Josh's talent, why argue with the same 8-10 inbreds all the time. F'em.

He never "took Worley's spot". You could posit that he SHOULD HAVE, but two years in a row he only played after Worley's season ended via injury.

 

[KBVol]

That was the game when the rest of the team decided not to show up.

You can blame the rest of the team if you want, but offensively, Butch and DeBord very much put the game in "Dobbs' hands" via the passing game. Hurd and Kamara only got a combined 26 carries...Dobbs between his pass attempts and rushes handled it 43 times.....but we only scored 13 offensive points.

Dobbs didn't play poorly IMO. But the offensive gameplan was to let him win it from he pocket vs the worst pass defense in the conference, and that didn't happen.

 

[CoaxialOrange]

Arkansas was just a weird game to watch. Crowd didn't seem into it, NONE of the players had the same fire that they showed beginning of season. I'm a big Butch fan but he let the Florida game turn into two losses

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

No. Players were devastated after the Florida loss and played with no fight that game. After Arkansas came back they just folded.

Its the only game all year last year they didn't play with passion.

False. We lost that game because Butch was too scared to let Dobbs throw TD passes and made him only throw check downs. If you ever watched film or had any gift for identifying talent, you'd realize that.

The Arkansas game was on Butch. Period. Dobbs wanted to throw TDs, but Butch told him no.

 

[VOL-uh-tile]

False. We lost that game because Butch was too scared to let Dobbs throw TD passes and made him only throw check downs. If you ever watched film or had any gift for identifying talent, you'd realize that.

The Arkansas game was on Butch. Period. Dobbs wanted to throw TDs, but Butch told him no.

Actually no, in the first quarter alone Dobbs overthrew a bomb to PW, and later passed over a sure 1st down to Jennings on 3rd&6 for PW in the end zone that was nearly picked.

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

Actually no, in the first quarter alone Dobbs overthrew a bomb to PW, and later passed over a sure 1st down to Jennings on 3rd&6 for PW in the end zone that was nearly picked.

Again, Butch's fault for coaching scared. Dobbs has no flaws as a passer and his potential is higher than a hybrid of Superman and The Flash spliced with Joe Montana.

You just aren't as smart as I am so you can't see it.

 

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

False. We lost that game because Butch was too scared to let Dobbs throw TD passes and made him only throw check downs. If you ever watched film or had any gift for identifying talent, you'd realize that.

The Arkansas game was on Butch. Period. Dobbs wanted to throw TDs, but Butch told him no.

Arkansas flat outplayed us. They wanted the win more than we did. The post-UGA Vols would have beaten that Arkansas team like a drum, but the program was at a very low point during that game.

Butch lost the Oklahoma and Florida games, and one could make an argument for Bama since Butch repeatedly lined up Medley from 50+ instead of just going for it, but the Arkansas loss wasn't on Butch. He made some terrible decisions (as he tends to do), namely not trying to beat Ark with Dobbs' feet, but the loss wasn't on him.

 

[VOL-uh-tile]

Again, Butch's fault for coaching scared. Dobbs has no flaws as a passer and his potential is higher than a hybrid of Superman and The Flash spliced with Joe Montana.

You just aren't as smart as I am so you can't see it.

OH dang, ha gotcha. Sometimes hard to tell who's serious and not.

 

[dduncan4163]

Arkansas was just a weird game to watch. Crowd didn't seem into it, NONE of the players had the same fire that they showed beginning of season. I'm a big Butch fan but he let the Florida game turn into two losses

Yup that Florida hang over was one of the worst I've experienced in many years.

 

[MustafaRasta]

Again, Butch's fault for coaching scared. Dobbs has no flaws as a passer and his potential is higher than a hybrid of Superman and The Flash spliced with Joe Montana.

You just aren't as smart as I am so you can't see it.

So many fish with one hook.

Keep doin what you do.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Arkansas was just a weird game to watch. Crowd didn't seem into it, NONE of the players had the same fire that they showed beginning of season. I'm a big Butch fan but he let the Florida game turn into two losses

This.

I know KBVol wants to blame Dobbs for that loss but that was a very weird game.

The only game from last year I didn't watch twice. Evaluating how guys played that game was worthless because they didn't play with the same passion.

We definitely lost twice to Florida last year.