Is Jimmy Hyams Right?

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volfanbill said:
I consider you one of the brightest posters on here and your location makes you closer to the Clemson situation than me, but from a few alumni I know and some UGA and USCe fans I know in west SC and the GA border, I've heard otherwise., I've heard otherwise. I have been told Dabo is a definite favorite.
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jakez4ut said:
well thank you. i'm just assuming. i've actually heard from some clemson buddies as well that it's getting comfortable thinking Dabo is the guy.
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Phillips interviewed Gary Patterson this week. At this moment, Patterson is Clemson's top choice.

Dabo is no more than a fall-back option for Clemson at this point. Terry doesn't want to make an "emotional" hire with Dabo...the fans love him, but Terry has big concerns about Dabo's ability to assemble a legitimate staff around him. There's fear that proven coordinators aren't exactly going to fall all over themselves to coach for a guy whose resume is thinner than theirs.
 
#77
#77
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Texas does not run ANY version of the spread offense and neither does Oklahoma. Tech runs the pass heavy version and yes I know Michigan runs the spread option, but Michigan will not be successful with the spread option because the defenses are 100X better than the one's in the Big East.
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Dumb. WVU has shredded OOC opponents including Oklahoma, Georgia Tech, Georgia, and Auburn running the spread option.
 
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Jaytrain5 said:
Phillips interviewed Gary Patterson this week. At this moment, Patterson is Clemson's top choice.

Dabo is no more than a fall-back option for Clemson at this point. Terry doesn't want to make an "emotional" hire with Dabo...the fans love him, but Terry has big concerns about Dabo's ability to assemble a legitimate staff around him. There's fear that proven coordinators aren't exactly going to fall all over themselves to coach for a guy whose resume is thinner than theirs.
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i heard he was going to get an interview, didn't know how serious it was...it hasn't been mentioned here.

but they've definitely ratcheted up the interviews, last week there were more names on the Clemson list than there were when the search started.

i get the feeling they are scrambling, especially if they are that soft on Dabo.
 
#79
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Jaytrain5 said:
Phillips interviewed Gary Patterson this week. At this moment, Patterson is Clemson's top choice.

Dabo is no more than a fall-back option for Clemson at this point. Terry doesn't want to make an "emotional" hire with Dabo...the fans love him, but Terry has big concerns about Dabo's ability to assemble a legitimate staff around him. There's fear that proven coordinators aren't exactly going to fall all over themselves to coach for a guy whose resume is thinner than theirs.
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fair enough. While I still have no idea how, you've definitely your knowledge when it comes to knowing what goes on in the state of Soutch Cackalack.
 
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jakez4ut said:
i heard he was going to get an interview, didn't know how serious it was...it hasn't been mentioned here.
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Phillips met with Patterson and Troy Calhoun this week.

I don't really know how serious Phillips was about Patterson before the interview, but I'm highly confident that Patterson is now Phillips #1 candidate.
 
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volfanbill said:
you really think so?

With the money IPTAY annually brings in for Clemson, I'm going to disagree. Sort of, at least. Yeah, Clemson probably can't pay 6 million for a coach, but Tommy Bowden was making 1.845 million. Surely Muschamp would take that kind of coin. That would be doubling his salary as coach in waiting and a chance to prove himself even more.
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my gut tells me that clemson wasn't interested in getting in to a bidding war......

they can probably afford a good bit North of the Bowden figure you mentioned, but no farther North than Gafney.:p

somehwere around 2.25 or so is i think where they would tap out. Muschamp stands to get more than that when his time comes at TX.

TN for the right candidate will beat that as well.

again, just my opinion based on what i've read. that figure i stated is just a hunch, but i do know they weren't going to out bid for someone's services when TN was probably going to be wiling to go in excess of 3 million to get their guy, if in direct competiton with Clemson.

the only thing Clemson would be able to count on is money not being an issue, if it got to that level.
 
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Jaytrain5 said:
Phillips met with Patterson and Troy Calhoun this week.

I don't really know how serious Phillips was about Patterson before the interview, but I'm highly confident that Patterson is now Phillips #1 candidate.
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Calhoun's name popped up late last week as did Locksley's.

if clemson gets patterson, that's a good get. and they'll be able to get him for the price they're willing to pay.
 
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jakez4ut said:
my gut tells me that clemson wasn't interested in getting in to a bidding war......

they can probably afford a good bit North of the Bowden figure you mentioned, but no farther North than Gafney.:p

somehwere around 2.25 or so is i think where they would tap out. Muschamp stands to get more than that when his time comes at TX.

TN for the right candidate will beat that as well.

again, just my opinion based on what i've read. that figure i stated is just a hunch, but i do know they weren't going to out bid for someone's services when TN was probably going to be wiling to go in excess of 3 million to get their guy, if in direct competiton with Clemson.

the only thing Clemson would be able to count on is money not being an issue, if it got to that level.
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I guess, but I would just think my ego would get in the way thinking I could make 2 mil a year now and with my success, I'd be making closer to 5 or 6 million in six years when Mack Brown finally called it quits. Maybe Muschamp is a little scared to take it to the next level and figures he's pretty well off right now.
 
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volfanbill said:
I guess, but I would just think my ego would get in the way thinking I could make 2 mil a year now and with my success, I'd be making closer to 5 or 6 million in six years when Mack Brown finally called it quits. Maybe Muschamp is a little scared to take it to the next level and figures he's pretty well off right now.
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yeah, i think this tells you more about Muschamp than it does CLemson in the end.
 
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#85
I think Muschamp understands how easy it is to stockpile talent in Texas.
 
#87
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No, I think Muschamp understands that he just landed in one of the top 3 jobs in the country in terms of recruiting. There are very, very, very few jobs more coveted that Texas.
 
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rexvol said:
I think Muschamp understands how easy it is to stockpile talent in Texas.
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optionqb21 said:
No, I think Muschamp understands that he just landed in one of the top 3 jobs in the country in terms of recruiting. There are very, very, very few jobs more coveted that Texas.
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i don't think anyone would necessarily disagree with any of that.......it's just strange that a guy that has made lateral moves from LSU to AUburn to TX essentially took another lateral move in order to named a head coach at some undisclosed date in the future.

the fact that it is Texas should be considered, because you are both correct.

but he won't ever be a hotter coach than he is today.
 
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optionqb21 said:
No, I think Muschamp understands that he just landed in one of the top 3 jobs in the country in terms of recruiting. There are very, very, very few jobs more coveted that Texas.
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He doesn't need to be CIW in order to land the Texas job. If he went to Clemson and had success after a few years, he'd likely still have the option to return to Austin.

I think the "coach in waiting" title says more about Mack Brown than it does about Muschamp. Muschamp wouldn't commit himself to a coordinator role for the next 5-8 years - that'd be foolish. My guess is that Brown has plans to retire soon, maybe after the 2010 season.
 
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rexvol said:
Saying that Kiffin is not really an option for our next HC. Can this guy be right? It blows my mind that on several boards LK seems to be the leading candidate and then this guy steps out and says "not a chance".
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We can only hope Hyams is correct on this, but it's sounding like he's not correct.
 
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#93
rexvol said:
Saying that Kiffin is not really an option for our next HC. Can this guy be right? It blows my mind that on several boards LK seems to be the leading candidate and then this guy steps out and says "not a chance".
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Jimmy is incorrect on the option comment for sure!

Kiffin or Kelly is the consensus, with possibly Davis still in the mix. Several rumors are that Kiffin is going to be the man, and Dec 1 is the announcement. That won't take to long to see if it's true.

There's a lot of smoke right now, but it will be clearing soon...........................
 
#94
#94
i just got off the phone with a guy i work with in Memphis and he's now trying to tell me that we hired Bill Cowher as HC and Lane Kiffiin as OC, and CIW when Cowher retires in 3-5 years.

man, i'm tellin' ya.........the crack is out in full force now.

there are so many rumors circling, i just can't say any of them hold any water.

they're liable to hire TIm Brewster and we'll all be sitting here like "Huh? WTF?"

i think we're dangerously close to wanting some of these rumors to be true, that when the announcement is made, there's going to be some serious disappointment.

get ready....the next week should be interesting.
 
#95
#95
just read the RRod thread about Mark may.

put the pipes down people.
 
#96
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jakez4ut said:
i just got off the phone with a guy i work with in Memphis and he's now trying to tell me that we hired Bill Cowher as HC and Lane Kiffiin as OC, and CIW when Cowher retires in 3-5 years.
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I don't trust these sources necessarily, but I can't see them blowing smoke either. Anyway, two different friends have said the coach in waiting behind a NFL coach rumor. I just can't imagine that.
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Jaytrain5 said:
He doesn't need to be CIW in order to land the Texas job. If he went to Clemson and had success after a few years, he'd likely still have the option to return to Austin.

I think the "coach in waiting" title says more about Mack Brown than it does about Muschamp. Muschamp wouldn't commit himself to a coordinator role for the next 5-8 years - that'd be foolish. My guess is that Brown has plans to retire soon, maybe after the 2010 season.
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People said Bobby Bowden would retire soon as well. That was years ago.
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#100
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rexvol said:
Saying that Kiffin is not really an option for our next HC. Can this guy be right? It blows my mind that on several boards LK seems to be the leading candidate and then this guy steps out and says "not a chance".
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Hyams... I swear.
 
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