Is it time for revolution?

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SpaceCoastVol said:
We don't do that very well with the drugs that ARE legal, what makes you think that when we legalize highly addictive drugs like meth and cocaine that we would do better?
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Vol8188 said:
Cigarettes are highly addictive and their usage has been decreasing dramatically the last couple of decades.
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SpaceCoastVol said:
non sequitur. Cigarettes do not **** with one's brain wiring.
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Honestly, do you know what "non sequitur" means? Because my statement was 100% relevant.

You asked why one should expect us to do well with addictive drugs, and I gave your dumbass an example of a highly addictive drug that Americans are very quickly running away from.

And yes cigarettes do mess with the chemical makeup of your brain. All substances do. Even nicotine and caffeine.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Morphine is legal. I had a Jeopardy button in the hospital hooked to a morphine drip that was wired into my right arm. Marijuana... Colorado, Washington.... next.
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Once again, by your definition so is marijuana and cocaine because both are used for medical purposes. Cocaine can be given to you by an optometrists.

But in all honestly, this is just a deflection on your part. Because you know what I mean by legality. I mean we should need no special permission from Uncle Sam to have or use these substances.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Once again, by your definition so is marijuana and cocaine because both are used for medical purposes. Cocaine can be given to you by an optometrists.

But in all honestly, this is just a deflection on your part. Because you know what I mean by legality. I mean we should need no special permission from Uncle Sam to have or use these substances.
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Awwwww you learned a new word....

Look, if you want drugs legalized, then fine. But you need harsh penalties when someone using them harms someone else. I don't think that with that standard, you would see a lessening of the prison population.

Personally though, I think you have a problem since you are so gung ho on this issue. But you're just a teacher, so you can't hurt anybody like I could, right?

And in CO and WA you don't need to have a medical reason to smoke weed... dumbass.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Awwwww you learned a new word....

Look, if you want drugs legalized, then fine. But you need harsh penalties when someone using them harms someone else. I don't think that with that standard, you would see a lessening of the prison population.

Personally though, I think you have a problem since you are so gung ho on this issue. But you're just a teacher, so you can't hurt anybody like I could, right?

And in CO and WA you don't need to have a medical reason to smoke weed... dumbass.
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Considering you're the one who just misused it, I think you learned a new word.

And why should committing a crime on drugs have a harsher consequence than committing one sober? It's not the drugs we should be trying to punish, it's the people.

Another dumbass argument from you. "Only drug addicts support drugs" "only gays support gay marriage" that's the type of pathetic grade school **** I've come to expect from you.

I never said you needed a medical reason to smoke weed in either of those states.

I really don't what is more pathetic, your lack of intelligence or your lack of self awareness about your own stupidity.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Considering you're the one who just misused it, I think you learned a new word.

And why should committing a crime on drugs have a harsher consequence than committing one sober? It's not the drugs we should be trying to punish, it's the people.

Another dumbass argument from you. "Only drug addicts support drugs" "only gays support gay marriage" that's the type of pathetic grade school **** I've come to expect from you.

I never said you needed a medical reason to smoke weed in either of those states.

I really don't what is more pathetic, your lack of intelligence or your lack of self awareness about your own stupidity.
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Nap time?
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Awwwww you learned a new word....

Look, if you want drugs legalized, then fine. But you need harsh penalties when someone using them harms someone else. I don't think that with that standard, you would see a lessening of the prison population.

Personally though, I think you have a problem since you are so gung ho on this issue. But you're just a teacher, so you can't hurt anybody like I could, right?

And in CO and WA you don't need to have a medical reason to smoke weed... dumbass.
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Yes that's it; he's a drug addict that needs Uncle Sam to tell him it's ok.

You have any other lame generalizations you pull out when you have nothing else?
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Yes that's it; he's a drug addict that needs Uncle Sam to tell him it's ok.

You have any other lame generalizations you pull out when you have nothing else?
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I still think the best part was when he misused a word and then when called out, said "you learned a new word".
 
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Vol8188 said:
Absolutely. I think most would be sold at drug stores, OTC of course. But yes. They should be sold at different shops. It's my body. The things I put in it are my decision. Meth and cocaine have both been sold over the counter previously along with herion and other opiates. Most of them were sold as cure alls.

And why do you say "legit" businesses. Do you not consider alcohol or tobacco companies to be legit?
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Illegal drugs are easier to get on the street. So its still your decision to take drugs legal or not. You're still under the silly assumption that all people who take drugs are responsible people whom can handle their addiction. Sorry pal, thats just not the case. What do you think would happen if there were a business selling meth? In no time you would have whacked out meth addicts breaking in and trying to steal it and the junkies would be constantly hanging around the place causing trouble.

Yes those drugs were sold as cure alls, but that was before the extreme dangers of these drugs were fully realized. Good Lord man can you really be this dense? You honestly do not see the inherent dangers of setting up businesses to sell hard drugs?
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Illegal drugs are easier to get on the street. So its still your decision to take drugs legal or not. You're still under the silly assumption that all people who take drugs are responsible people whom can handle their addiction. Sorry pal, thats just not the case. What do you think would happen if there were a business selling meth? In no time you would have whacked out meth addicts breaking in and trying to steal it and the junkies would be constantly hanging around the place causing trouble.

Yes those drugs were sold as cure alls, but that was before the extreme dangers of these drugs were fully realized. Good Lord man can you really be this dense? You honestly do not see the inherent dangers of setting up businesses to sell hard drugs?
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We already have such businesses. They are called pharmaceuticals.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Do you really not know anything about drug laws? That's why drug laws came about, because of fear of
minorities. There's public records of this ****. Politicians would say things publicly like "we have to ban marijuana because it's what makes Mexicans so crazy" or "only blacks and Mexicans use this stuff and it makes them into sex crazed criminals".

I didn't link it to minorities, the politicians who created these oppressive laws did.
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You're missing something far more ambitious than racism when considering illegality of drugs. Ill explain this statement tommorow if you're interested.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Illegal drugs are easier to get on the street. So its still your decision to take drugs legal or not. You're still under the silly assumption that all people who take drugs are responsible people whom can handle their addiction. Sorry pal, thats just not the case.
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Who is saying that all people can handle drugs? Some people have addictive personalities some don't. Some people use responsibly, some don't.

Alcohol is legal. Alcohol is abused. Some people can drink responsibly and some people cannot. Ban alcohol?

What do you think would happen if there were a business selling meth? In no time you would have whacked out meth addicts breaking in and trying to steal it and the junkies would be constantly hanging around the place causing trouble.
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How I imagine BOT's speculation about meth addicts.

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He's got more paranoia than every meth addict in his city combined.

Yes those drugs were sold as cure alls, but that was before the extreme dangers of these drugs were fully realized. Good Lord man can you really be this dense? You honestly do not see the inherent dangers of setting up businesses to sell hard drugs?
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There are extreme dangers in smoking cigarettes and abusing alcohol. Ban smokes and beer.

What is your definition of a hard drug? Let me guess, alcohol isn't included? Wouldn't you consider the most deadly drugs to be the hardest? Ban smokes and beer, I guess.


As you can see, the hypocrisy of this crowd knows no bounds. They excuse their vices as less dangerous than others(which obviously is untrue) to achieve a fictional moral high ground, when in reality the drugs they take that are legal are far more likely to ever damage them than coke or LSD.
 
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Vol8188 said:
What makes the views of those who don't own land less important?

Or is this just another one of the republican things were they try to bring back outdated racist laws that prevent minorities from voting?
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Keep up. Go back and read TRUT's post.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
Keep up. Go back and read TRUT's post.
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I read his post previously. It wasn't about voting rights, it was about taxes.

So how about you answer the question? Why should non-land owners not have a say in our government?
 
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The line of thought is that if you do not have any "skin in the game" then you would vote for using the gov't largesse for personal gain rather than the greater good. You don't value what you did not earn.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I read his post previously. It wasn't about voting rights, it was about taxes.

So how about you answer the question? Why should non-land owners not have a say in our government?
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If you pay taxes, your vote should count. The federal government, theoretically, works for us. Say all of us who pay their wages should be able to control what is done by the government. My stance is, should we allow people on welfare to vote. We pay the government to work for us, they take the money and give it back to another group of people. So is allowing them to vote comparative to the insane running the asylum?
 
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OrangeWayOfLife said:
If you pay taxes, your vote should count. The federal government, theoretically, works for us. Say all of us who pay their wages should be able to control what is done by the government. My stance is, should we allow people on welfare to vote. We pay the government to work for us, they take the money and give it back to another group of people. So is allowing them to vote comparative to the insane running the asylum?
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Everyone pays property taxes. If you don't pay them directly, then your rent contributes to the property taxes of others.
 
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88, I'm game to explain myself if you've got an email acct you don't mind posting. If you're interested. If not, I won't bother posting here.
 
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