is it still acceptable to say "look what heupel inherited"

should this be allowed on this message board any more?

  • yes, it's still true and valid

    Votes: 60 32.6%

  • no, throw them out

    Votes: 124 67.4%
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#126
#126
JMSqb11 said:
Calling Ole Miss a top 40 all time winning program is making up claims, which you’re great at.

Even if you took the win % out of it, Ole Miss doesn’t even crack the top 40 schools all time in wins.

So once again sir, please lay off whatever substance you’re consuming today.
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It's not because no one with a bit of respect and logic considers counting the wins and winning pct of a FCS school transitioning and counting their wins all time the same as a team playing big time football for 150 years the same thing..

If you believe Kennesaw St or Delaware or Missouri St or Coastal Carolina or even Boise St are better than Florida, Clemson, Texas A&M, Miami, etc because of this you truly are as dumb as Kiffin is

and even with your OWN skewed page of stats, it shows Ole miss at 40th all time with wins

Moron
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#127
#127
Rickyvol77 said:
It's not because no one with a bit of respect and logic considers counting the wins and winning pct of a FCS school transitioning and counting their wins all time the same as a team playing big time football for 150 years the same thing..

If you believe Kennesaw St or Delaware or Missouri St or Coastal Carolina or even Boise St are better than Florida, Clemson, Texas A&M, Miami, etc because of this you truly are as dumb as Kiffin is

and even with your OWN skewed page of stats, it shows Ole miss at 40th all time with wins

Moron
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You made the claim that Ole Miss “was top 35 winningest program all time”…..

I pointed out with actual data that is incorrect. The data you provided included wins that don’t exist and seasons that should be counted but aren’t.

You have now moved away from “top 35” to “top 40” and you’re still wrong.

Come correct or don’t come at all.
 
#128
#128
JMSqb11 said:
You made the claim that Ole Miss “was top 35 winningest program all time”…..

I pointed out with actual data that is incorrect. The data you provided included wins that don’t exist and seasons that should be counted but aren’t.

You have now moved away from “top 35” to “top 40” and you’re still wrong.

Come correct or don’t come at all.
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I said top 35 because they were among actual major programs.

I "moved to top 40" because you said

"Calling Ole Miss a top 40 all time winning program is making up claims, which you’re great at.

Even if you took the win % out of it, Ole Miss doesn’t even crack the top 40 schools all time in wins."

Your own LINK shows them to be top 40 in wins, so which is it? is your link wrong or are you?
 
#129
#129
Rickyvol77 said:
I said top 35 because they were among actual major programs.

I "moved to top 40" because you said

"Calling Ole Miss a top 40 all time winning program is making up claims, which you’re great at.

Even if you took the win % out of it, Ole Miss doesn’t even crack the top 40 schools all time in wins."

Your own LINK shows them to be top 40 in wins, so which is it? is your link wrong or are you?
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That link shows 691 wins. They have 689 as there are 2 contested vacated wins. That’s why one data aggregator has them 59th in % and others 60th in %.

Once again, you made a statement, got proven wrong, backtracked and made another statement, got proven wrong again…..
 
#130
#130
JMSqb11 said:
That link shows 691 wins. They have 688 as there are 3 contested vacated wins. That’s why one data aggregator has them 59th in % and others 60th in %.

Once again, you made a statement, got proven wrong, backtracked and made another statement, got proven wrong again…..
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again is Ole Miss top 40 in wins all time or not? Simple yes or no?
 
#132
#132
JMSqb11 said:
Once again, this isn’t hard. They have 689 wins all time. That doesn’t get them into the top 40 like you are claiming.
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Your link says they are #40

www.winsipedia.com

Ole Miss Football Statistics and Records

Complete Ole Miss college football database with statistics, records, and historical data.
www.winsipedia.com www.winsipedia.com

so is your link wrong? or are you wrong?
 
#134
#134
Rickyvol77 said:
Your link says they are #40

www.winsipedia.com

Ole Miss Football Statistics and Records

Complete Ole Miss college football database with statistics, records, and historical data.
www.winsipedia.com www.winsipedia.com

so is your link wrong? or are you wrong?
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Winsipedia is not including the 741 wins (1221+ all time games played) from Delaware.

I’m not wrong. Thank you for playing. Once again, just admit defeat and quit moving the goalposts on wild claims that have no merit or truth.

I’m sure you’re next claim will be that Ole Miss is a top 35 winning program with the letter “S” in their name!
 
#135
#135
Rickyvol77 said:
Like Tennessee was with Heupel? But yet Heupel succeeded better in a tougher conference

USC was averaging 10-11 wins a season and Kiffin took them to years of 5-6 losses and got fired on the tarmac because he was so bad...

He was fired from the Raiders for being so bad, his coaching was laughed at on sports shows

He's done ok at Ole Miss but still can't win a big game to save his life
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USC’s sanctions were way more severe than ours.

Kiffin is about on par with Heupel. Good coach, not a championship contender
 
#137
#137
JMSqb11 said:
Winsipedia is not including the 741 wins (1221+ all time games played) from Delaware.

I’m not wrong. Thank you for playing. Once again, just admit defeat and quit moving the goalposts on wild claims that have no merit or truth.

I’m sure you’re next claim will be that Ole Miss is a top 35 winning program with the letter “S” in their name!
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you must be a lawyer, post skewed data, make an incorrect statement and then back peddle and refuse to answer

There were no goalposts, Ole miss is top 35 in winning pct and top 40 in wins all time ...a successful program all time with THREE NATIONAL TITLES and multiple SEC titles

I get that you want that NOT to be the case because your cheater Kiffin needs to appear to do something special by winning 10 games at a place that five other coaches have... but Ole Miss is an above average program that accomplished more than 60 % of FBS power teams...

and top 40 in wins is top 40....just like YOUR LINK you posted says (even though now you realize you messed up and can't deny it does)
and Ole Miss is top 35 in winning pct. but you have to include FCS wins from transitional teams to suggest otherwise...

Kennesaw St, UCF, Boise, Delaware, Missouri St, Coastal Carolina, James Madison, Appy State, etc are NOT counted the same for a reason...

Anyone who thinks Sacramento St going 10-2 next season playing FCS schools should count as a higher winning pct than Bama or Ohio St all time is simply trying to make up actual stats
 
#138
#138
ProudVOLfan said:
Heup has brought us a long way and I fear thats as far as we're getting with him. Hope Im wrong
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Roster-wise, Tennessee had zero business in the CFP last year. They were only there due to 1) schedule ( caught both OU & Fla down & 2) Heupel managed the team around a good RB & pretty good defense.
 
#140
#140
UTFranklinVol said:
right I don't get it. it's not like 70% of the poll responses agree with my point of view but you keep yelling at clouds if you want to if it makes you feel like you know everything. make sure to tell your supervisor at the sanitation department that you're resigning to go be Heupel's recruiting guru.
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Oh yeah, a poll of the most emotional fanbase in the world the day after we lose to our biggest rival on the road. Yeah, that data is valid and not biased at all. Considering yall literally don't even understand the restrictions, yall are not the most trusted opinion. Get real dude. You're a clown for this one lol
 
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#141
#141
JMSqb11 said:
People were willing to give Heupel 5 years and that was fair.

What people didn’t expect was an expedited process where Heupel elevated the program on a nuclear pace with the 2022 season.

It’s been 3 years since the 2022 season and all we have to show for it is an expanded playoff appearance and a 2-6 record vs Georgia, Bama, and Florida.

All these people crying “look where we were 5 years ago” aren’t educated. Heupel deserves all the credit for how quickly this program got turned around and elevated. He also deserves criticism for the current feeling of plateauing.
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There were 121 other teams that would’ve loved to have had that extended playoff spot!
 
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#143
#143
JMSqb11 said:
I think it can. We lost guys to the draft and the portal because we wanted to nickel and dime and we had injuries.

Our defensive line is deep and has been solid. The McCoy and Gipson injuries have exposed youth. Those guys could allow the pass rush to make plays because they could buy them time with their coverage ability.
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Everyone has to deal with the portal, the draft and injuries. D-line is solid, like you say, not exceptional this year.

The injuries in our secondary play a part in our lack of success, but so does having mediocre LB play and not generating any sacks last night despite being ranked #1 in that category going into the game.
 
#144
#144
General Jack said:
Everyone has to deal with the portal, the draft and injuries. D-line is solid, like you say, not exceptional this year.

The injuries in our secondary play a part in our lack of success, but so does having mediocre LB play and not generating any sacks last night despite being ranked #1 in that category going into the game.
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Yet our defense played better than enough to win. The story of that game will be the offense not playing to its average and the turnovers that resulted in 9 points and was the difference in the game.

I spent all week asking if people would take the offense playing to its average of 38 PPG and the overwhelming response was “we are gonna have to score 40-50 points to have a chance”

We held them to 28 points, outgained them in yardage, and had a takeaway.
 
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#145
#145
JMSqb11 said:
Yet our defense played better than enough to win. The story of that game will be the offense not playing to its average and the turnovers that resulted in 9 points and was the difference in the game.
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Our defense couldn't get enough stops and not when we needed one most.

But I agree that penalties, drops and poor execution on offense draw a more direct line to yesterday's loss.
 
#147
#147
General Jack said:
Our defense couldn't get enough stops and not when we needed one most.

But I agree that penalties, drops and poor execution on offense draw a more direct line to yesterday's loss.
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Alabama had 9 offensive possessions. Over half of them didn’t result in points.

But sure, the defense is the link in the chain that broke down.
 
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#149
JMSqb11 said:
Calling Ole Miss a top 40 all time winning program is making up claims, which you’re great at. I’m willing to omit JSU, GSU, JMU, CCU, KSU.

Ole Miss moves from 59th to 54th. Still not top 40.

Even if you took the win % out of it, Ole Miss doesn’t even crack the top 40 schools all time in wins.

So once again sir, please lay off whatever substance you’re consuming today.
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You would think they wouldn’t give Ricky and other residents of the halfway house access to the internet.
 
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