Is it just me or...

#52
#52
I wonder what Kiffin will say when he has to fire his pops...
"Well, dad, USC's Defense is a better squad now than it was when we got here..."
or
"Dad, I'm promoting Orgeron. To DC. And sorry, but you're fired.
....
..
Actually, I'm not that sorry."
 
#55
#55
is it just me or is it bad to have your star WR yell " BLOODs " to the espn camera after he scores... strait thuggin
 
#56
#56
ChismsHeadband said:
I wonder what Kiffin will say when he has to fire his pops...
"Well, dad, USC's Defense is a better squad now than it was when we got here..."
or
"Dad, I'm promoting Orgeron. To DC. And sorry, but you're fired.
....
..
Actually, I'm not that sorry."
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I doubt he would he say "Sorry"
 
#57
#57
Gator H8R said:
...Does anyone else think Monte had a better defense with us last year than he has now at USuC? Watching them is almost comical. They have missed numerous tackles.
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careful in comparing one game to 13 games.. can be misleading.. also, personal is different, tough to compare for that reason as well..
 
#58
#58
Yankee_Vol said:
Ehh it's the first game......I'm glad he's not our D coordinator anymore
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Agree.I think our defense will shock the college football experts this year.The only team that knows anything about our defense is Oregon.And the talent we have on defense is better than Boise States.That's why i think we have a shot if we come ready to play.We have something to prove Oregon don't.
 
#59
#59
They didn't hit in practice hardly at all. I'm sure that explains missed tackles and part of the 588 yards hawaii put up against them bajajaja
 
#60
#60
ACvol3 said:
Yeah, I'm thinking the fact that they haven't been tackling n practice is hurting them.
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yeah i was about to say that. i couldint beleive they had not been tackling in practice...thats nucking futts to me...:rock:
 
#62
#62
ochocinco said:
i had to check the date of post.i thought we heard this all last summer when you barely had 300 yards come gameday. that was actually better than the year before when you had a whopping 243 yards and were outgained by a Vol team that finished 5-7. now you lost arguably the best college football player ever , who happened to be the leader of the offense , and you expect to gain more than the last 2 years combined? thats alabama math
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They might have more depth but they lost way more leadership than we did.Brandon Spikes was the leader of their defense.They win in a close one.
 
#64
#64
I think a lot of the woes for USC's D last night was the fact that they hadn't performed many tackling drills in practice. And not to mention, Hawaii's offense is pretty good, you will see that they will put up good offensive numbers this year, but their D is horrid.
Also I would like to add, for those of you that thought Hawaii was running the spread last night you are mistaken. They were running the Run-and-Shoot out of the shotgun and pistol formations.
 
#66
#66
LWSVOL said:
careful in comparing one game to 13 games.. can be misleading.. also, personal is different, tough to compare for that reason as well..
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Yeah, but I think what everyone is trying to get at is the Lane and most of the "kiffinites" were running around telling everyone how much better Monte's defense would be at USC when they didn't have the crappy quality athlete on defense that UT had. That it as the UT players that didn't get the system, and their failure. Honestly it reminded me a lot of the Memphis game in the 2nd half, where a team that had no business running the field on our 3rd stringers scored what 21 points? Except Hawaii was doing it with their 3rd string quarterback. I like their receivers though, hopefully ours are that gruff. They really didn't get enough credit for their running after the catch, it was impressive. A lot of those bad angles were due to their elusiveness and speed.

I agree with you though, maybe that is the case. One game is really not a good litmus test, plus it was in a distracting setting and the first game of the season and under a new coordinator.

That said I hope to hell USC gives up 588 yards every single game this season.
 
#68
#68
TENNFOLD1974 said:
I think a lot of the woes for USC's D last night was the fact that they hadn't performed many tackling drills in practice. And not to mention, Hawaii's offense is pretty good, you will see that they will put up good offensive numbers this year, but their D is horrid.
Also I would like to add, for those of you that thought Hawaii was running the spread last night you are mistaken. They were running the Run-and-Shoot out of the shotgun and pistol formations.
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Hawaii's offense has been atrocious for two years since June Jones left. They run a hybrid spread offense (spread simply being a formation spreading out the defense with a non-pro-style formation, with all kinds of variations of that, including pistol formations, run-and-shoot, option-spread, Mike Leach's variation, Urban Meyer's variation, Houston Nutt's variation, Malzahn's variation, Clawson's variation, the single-wing/wildcat variation, etc). It's just a catch-all for any formation or offense that does not line up out of a pro-style or pure option formation, using misdirection & spread-out personnel. They have not stuck strictly with the run-and-shoot since June Jones' departure and have not been a "good" offense since he left by any stretch of the imagination. Most of that same personnel were the ones who finished their last season at home scoring a whopping 10 points against Wisconsin.

It wasn't just tackling drills that were the problem (excuse # 277 for Monte's woes against non-pro style schemes for two straight collegiate seasons, stretching back even further to his woes against the wildcat at the end of his Tampa tenure); it was confusion, mis-alignment, not identifying routes/formations, and being out of position all night, just like we were most of the game against Auburn, part of Ohio & Memphis, part of Virginia Tech, and almost all of Ole Miss. Monte had Chavis' game plan against Florida from the season before (a much better Florida offense in 2008), which we largely utilized against Florida, just as LSU did to much better defensive effect last season. (The only difference defensively between 2008 & 2009 was Tebow's lost fumble when going into make it 30-6 in the 3rd quarter in 2009, & Meyer's recognition Kiffin's goal was just a closer-than-expected score, not an actual victory by the 4th quarter.)
 
#69
#69
VegasVol said:
Hawaii's offense has been atrocious for two years since June Jones left. They run a hybrid spread offense (spread simply being a formation spreading out the defense with a non-pro-style formation, with all kinds of variations of that, including pistol formations, run-and-shoot, option-spread, Mike Leach's variation, Urban Meyer's variation, Houston Nutt's variation, Malzahn's variation, Clawson's variation, the single-wing/wildcat variation, etc). It's just a catch-all for any formation or offense that does not line up out of a pro-style or pure option formation, using misdirection & spread-out personnel. They have not stuck strictly with the run-and-shoot since June Jones' departure and have not been a "good" offense since he left by any stretch of the imagination. Most of that same personnel were the ones who finished their last season at home scoring a whopping 10 points against Wisconsin.

It wasn't just tackling drills that were the problem (excuse # 277 for Monte's woes against non-pro style schemes for two straight collegiate seasons, stretching back even further to his woes against the wildcat at the end of his Tampa tenure); it was confusion, mis-alignment, not identifying routes/formations, and being out of position all night, just like we were most of the game against Auburn, part of Ohio & Memphis, part of Virginia Tech, and almost all of Ole Miss. Monte had Chavis' game plan against Florida from the season before (a much better Florida offense in 2008), which we largely utilized against Florida, just as LSU did to much better defensive effect last season. (The only difference defensively between 2008 & 2009 was Tebow's lost fumble when going into make it 30-6 in the 3rd quarter in 2009, & Meyer's recognition Kiffin's goal was just a closer-than-expected score, not an actual victory by the 4th quarter.)
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wow...
 
#70
#70
his defenses have been pretty bad against non traditional offenses. Not really sure how this can be denied at this point unless you just want to take up for him/them.

I mean HAWAII dumped thirty plus on them.
 
#72
#72
If my memory serves me correct, the Vols had the SEC's leading defense in 08, a year prior to Monte's tenure; Yet while he was there you all dropped to 4th or 5th.

Perhaps he isn't as great as previously thought, or maybe the Tampa 2 didn't, doesn't, and won't translate over to the collegiate level. I have a sneaky suspicion that the spread offense of the Pac 10 are going to eat his defense alive.
 
#73
#73
VegasVol said:
Hawaii's offense has been atrocious for two years since June Jones left. They run a hybrid spread offense (spread simply being a formation spreading out the defense with a non-pro-style formation, with all kinds of variations of that, including pistol formations, run-and-shoot, option-spread, Mike Leach's variation, Urban Meyer's variation, Houston Nutt's variation, Malzahn's variation, Clawson's variation, the single-wing/wildcat variation, etc). It's just a catch-all for any formation or offense that does not line up out of a pro-style or pure option formation, using misdirection & spread-out personnel. They have not stuck strictly with the run-and-shoot since June Jones' departure and have not been a "good" offense since he left by any stretch of the imagination. Most of that same personnel were the ones who finished their last season at home scoring a whopping 10 points against Wisconsin.

It wasn't just tackling drills that were the problem (excuse # 277 for Monte's woes against non-pro style schemes for two straight collegiate seasons, stretching back even further to his woes against the wildcat at the end of his Tampa tenure); it was confusion, mis-alignment, not identifying routes/formations, and being out of position all night, just like we were most of the game against Auburn, part of Ohio & Memphis, part of Virginia Tech, and almost all of Ole Miss. Monte had Chavis' game plan against Florida from the season before (a much better Florida offense in 2008), which we largely utilized against Florida, just as LSU did to much better defensive effect last season. (The only difference defensively between 2008 & 2009 was Tebow's lost fumble when going into make it 30-6 in the 3rd quarter in 2009, & Meyer's recognition Kiffin's goal was just a closer-than-expected score, not an actual victory by the 4th quarter.)
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Excellent post. :thumbsup:
 
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