Is Guarantano the dual threat Dobbs was?

[PackersVols91]

I know Guarantano is very highly touted and I'm excited to see him play, but I feel like Dobbs elusiveness and play making ability will be very hard to replace. I also still feel like Dormady can be great, but our O-line may make it less likely he's the answer.

 

[patrick]

This will be interesting!

 

[jakez4ut]

i think both JG and QD are athletic enough to function just fine in this offense. do they have the physicality JD brought? probably not. by all accounts though, they may be better overall at throwing the ball.

it's still unknown if this O line could pass protect the way it may be needed to. it's also likely either of the two new qb's could be better with timing routes and getting the ball out faster....

anyway, lots of things to consider.

short answer, i don't think either will be as good of a natural, physical runner as Dobbs. that, though, may not be a bad thing in the long run.

 

[Iam4utalways]

I know Guarantano is very highly touted and I'm excited to see him play, but I feel like Dobbs elusiveness and play making ability will be very hard to replace. I also still feel like Dormady can be great, but our O-line may make it less likely he's the answer.

I see Dornady as a pocket passer with great escapability.

From what I've heard JG is duel threat like Dobbs but more accurate with the pass and more elusive as a runner. Dobbs was more of a make you bounce off than a make you miss, although he made many miss and look foolish while missing or bouncing off.

If either is the real McCoy, 2017 could be really good.

I would expect Dormady to have a higher grade at making the right read, but if JG can be better at making the right read I think his raw talent will earn him the job. It all boils down to who can read it right and execute the play.

Seems like Dobbs was around 60%, but that was before this year. iirc.

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[kayakonthefly]

Had to use this that I borrowed from someone on here. Thanks whoever it was.

 

[patrick]

i think both JG and QD are athletic enough to function just fine in this offense. do they have the physicality JD brought? probably not. by all accounts though, they may be better overall at throwing the ball.

it's still unknown if this O line could pass protect the way it may be needed to. it's also likely either of the two new qb's could be better with timing routes and getting the ball out faster....

anyway, lots of things to consider.

short answer, i don't think either will be as good of a natural, physical runner as Dobbs. that, though, may not be a bad thing in the long run.

JG was the top rated dual threat QB in the nation coming out of high school (per 247). Josh Dobbs on the other hand was labeled a pro-style QB and was the #10 pro-style QB in the nation when he was a senior (per 247). JG has every bit the speed of Dobbs and can spin it.

 

[UT_Tix79]

We're gonna experience a severe dropoff at the QB position next year, Dobbs was an amazing talent, and we're gonna miss him

 

[Iam4utalways]

We're gonna experience a severe dropoff at the QB position next year, Dobbs was an amazing talent, and we're gonna miss him

I felt the same way in 1998. Just a different name.

 

[patrick]

I see Dornady as a pocket passer with great escapability.

From what I've heard JG is duel threat like Dobbs but more accurate with the pass an more elusive as a runner. Dobbs was more of a make you bounce off than a make you miss, although he made many miss and look foolish while missing or bouncing off.

If either is the real McCoy, 2017 could be really good.

I would expect Dormady to have a higher grade at making the right read, but if JG can be better at making the right read I think his raw talent will earn him the job. It all boils down to who can read it right an execute the play.

Seems like Dobbs was around 60%, but that was before this year. iirc.

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Go Vols!

QD also a pro-style QB per the recruiting services. Not really a "zone read" QB. But I am sure he will be around till next season as I do not believe that the staff will name a QB starter in spring.

 

[Nashvegas31]

We're gonna experience a severe dropoff at the QB position next year, Dobbs was an amazing talent, and we're gonna miss him

Dobbs in not irreplaceable. If Tee Martin can replace Peyton and win a title then anyone can be successful regardless of who they are replacing. Dobbs made some great plays but also missed some routine ones. Dormady and JG are highly rated guys for a reason. We will be fine.

 

[biggestvols]

I'm hoping Guarantano is more of a run - pass dual threat. Dobbs was more a run - run threat.

 

[Iam4utalways]

QD also a pro-style QB per the recruiting services. Not really a "zone read" QB. But I am sure he will be around till next season as I do not believe that the staff will name a QB starter in spring.

I wasn't aware Dobbs was a pro-style coming out of HS.

Jones may do that, he seems like he is trying to do right by the players. I've never seen him get bitter over a player wanting to transfer or even when they just quit.

 

[JMSqb11]

I know Guarantano is very highly touted and I'm excited to see him play, but I feel like Dobbs elusiveness and play making ability will be very hard to replace. I also still feel like Dormady can be great, but our O-line may make it less likely he's the answer.

If he can accurately pass, he will be light years more dual threat than Dobbs ever was. Dobbs wasn't a world beater in the passing the department vs quality competition.

 

[Flipdaddy]

If the QB isn't a threat to run in the offense then it's useless.

 

[Iam4utalways]

If he can accurately pass, he will be light years more dual threat than Dobbs ever was. Dobbs wasn't a world beater in the passing the department vs quality competition.

I found it peculiar how he could make great passes, them out of the blue throw something way off, and I'm not talking where the Rec was on a different page, just some ugly balls, reminded me of Crompom.

 

[patrick]

If the QB isn't a threat to run in the offense then it's useless.

yeap.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

I know Guarantano is very highly touted and I'm excited to see him play, but I feel like Dobbs elusiveness and play making ability will be very hard to replace. I also still feel like Dormady can be great, but our O-line may make it less likely he's the answer.

Guarantano is not quite as elusive as Dobbs but he has the same straight line speed if not better.

He'll be more than adequate as a dual threat.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

I'm hoping Guarantano is more of a run - pass dual threat. Dobbs was more a run - run threat.

Why do you clowns still say this myth?

Did you not watch the Vols this year?

Dobbs led the SEC in just about every passing category this year. Especially during league play. He was easily the best passing QB in the conference.

 

[AllVolinGA]

No.

 

[jakez4ut]

JG was the top rated dual threat QB in the nation coming out of high school (per 247). Josh Dobbs on the other hand was labeled a pro-style QB and was the #10 pro-style QB in the nation when he was a senior (per 247). JG has every bit the speed of Dobbs and can spin it.

i think it's safe to say that maybe Dobbs rating was, um, off a bit?

i'm just basing what i've seen from Dobbs over the last 3 years, to what i think might be the case with JG.

it's not like i said he'd suck. just don't know.

 

[fade route]

Why do you clowns still say this myth?

Did you not watch the Vols this year?

Dobbs led the SEC in just about every passing category this year. Especially during league play. He was easily the best passing QB in the conference.

You usually post absurdity but I actually agree with you. The bashing of Dobbs' arm and ability as a passer is ridiculous and unfounded.

 

[pimo1]

You usually post absurdity but I actually agree with you. The bashing of Dobbs' arm and ability as a passer is ridiculous and unfounded.

i say the same you you as you said to the guy you quoted lol... Not sure what folks were smoking watching Dobbs but the guy proved he has a legit arm.

Dobbs is that rare guy that has immeasurable talents.He just makes things happen. The person he rmeinds me most of as far as that is Tim Tebow except he CAN hit the broad side of a barn. Will he hit it 100% of the time? Nope. But he just makes plays when they need making more times than not.

The big issue is people tend to remember the 4 times he didn't make the play instead of the 6 he did. More often than not if you put Dobbs in a position where a play HAS to be made he finds a way.

As far as the o-line believe it or not they did show improvement this year individually. The problem was so many people had to play and make those improvements the sum of it wasn't pretty. But I honestly believe that at worst our line will be good next year. Good enough tat how well we produce at the QB position will be on the QB.

 

[UTK]

Why do you clowns still say this myth?

Did you not watch the Vols this year?

Dobbs led the SEC in just about every passing category this year. Especially during league play. He was easily the best passing QB in the conference.

Make this a second person that agrees. Dobbs has a good year passing the ball.

 

[Vols All Day]

I don't think JG will be as elusive as Dobbs was; however, I hope he is. There were some plays this year and throughout Dobbs career were I thought it might be his last play and somehow Dobbs would evade the rusher. One thing I did notice during the games was JG shadowing Dobbs on the sidelines, so hopefully he picked up somethings from Dobbs.

 

[Bms4880]

Is Guarantano the dual threat Dobbs was?

What part of Number 1 dual threat QB leads you to doubt?