Is Fulmer really mad/hurt?

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Freak said:
To top it all off, as if it's not bad enough that Petyon was given the task ofcalling Blackburn and Fulmer with the bad news, he is supposed to be on hand at the press conference today to cheerlead for this hire.
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Sometimes I fear the political BS will push Peyton to take a more passive role. I hope that never happens.
 
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he has lost ball games be for, he will just move on. the better question is Manning hurt . you can bet they have pissed the Pope. he will not lash out on twitter like other vol players and fans.he will be cool , calm, an collective. he will get even with all involved at some point in the future.he will be the most popular person that has any thing to do with the university of Tennessee long after every one over there is long gone. if i work for the university. i would have not have give Manning and fans the middle finger as was done. they better hope Jones can walk on water. if things blow up in the next 2 or 3 years. mad fans and Manning will show no quarter.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
He's not mad that he didn't get the job.

He's mad that he was asked to get involved, then mislead, then not told he didn't have a chance to get the job when the Chancellor put her foot down and said the hire HAD to be someone with prior AD experience and then gave him a token interview when Currie was already the guy.

That's what he's mad about and I think he's right to be mad, honestly.
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I'm sorry but this is just the same old UT. I was hoping with a new chancellor and new AD maybe we could have a little competence and true leadership. It seems the same misleading and division between people who could make this a successful program if everyone could get on the same page.
 
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Behr said:
Correct. Fulmer did.
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Not to say that Fulmer didn't accept the opportunity when it was offered but he didn't orchestrate Majors removal. Johnny was arrogant and had a huge ego. He couldn't stand to see Fulmer receiving praise for the job that he was going as an interim. Without talking to anyone, including Dickey, he just declared himself fit and ready to resume coaching and just showed up on Monday morning. Fulmer was the hot name for every presumed coaching vacancy that year. He would have gone somewhere else. Instead, Johnny put his ego above the team and came back in and totally wrecked the team unity. If he had stayed out the whole year like it had been presumed, Phil would have gone elsewhere and Johnny would have remained head coach. UT would never have fired him after he had health problems.
Of course - this is opinion - we would never have won the national championship in 98 if he had down the right thing.
 
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Cosmo said:
I would be hurt if I were Fulmer or Blackburn. They both bleed orange. It is Blackburn's dream job.
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I was disappointed when I learned Blackburn was not at least given an interview. He deserved that much consideration. If I could get one straight answer about this search, that is the question I would want to ask.
 
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Yes, he is hurt/mad, whichever you choose. He was supposed to do an interview with a Chattanooga reporter at the FCA event in NGa. He cancelled it and told the reporter he will have to give him a few days and said he would call him back for an interview or do an extensive one the next time he is in town,
 
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forgiven said:
he has lost ball games be for, he will just move on. the better question is Manning hurt . you can bet they have pissed the Pope. he will not lash out on twitter like other vol players and fans.he will be cool , calm, an collective. he will get even with all involved at some point in the future.he will be the most popular person that has any thing to do with the university of Tennessee long after every one over there is long gone. if i work for the university. i would have not have give Manning and fans the middle finger as was done. they better hope Jones can walk on water. if things blow up in the next 2 or 3 years. mad fans and Manning will show no quarter.
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pissed the pope? really?
 
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DeerPark12 said:
He's not mad that he didn't get the job.

He's mad that he was asked to get involved, then mislead, then not told he didn't have a chance to get the job when the Chancellor put her foot down and said the hire HAD to be someone with prior AD experience and then gave him a token interview when Currie was already the guy.

That's what he's mad about and I think he's right to be mad, honestly.
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Most of the time, people who don't get jobs find a reason to be mad...justified or not. As much as some may think Fulmer should have been the guy (I was like warm on it too), got to respect people who are supposedly qualified to judge...either something was missing or Currie had advantage in key leadership imperatives.
 
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Freak said:
That's asking a lot from someone who's not known as a "relationship guy" and who has to overcome all of the bridges he burned during his previous stay here.
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I agree and that's the biggest reason why the hire doesn't make sense to me. They didn't have to have a "UT guy". But they did need someone that could unify. It appears this hire not only ignores that need but probably makes it worse.
 
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secking said:
Yes, he is hurt/mad, whichever you choose. He was supposed to do an interview with a Chattanooga reporter at the FCA event in NGa. He cancelled it and told the reporter he will have to give him a few days and said he would call him back for an interview or do an extensive one the next time he is in town,
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Of course Fulmer is mad. Can't blame him since he received a phone call Monday morning from someone on the Search Committee telling him he would get the job. The new Chancellor, Davenport, made a unilateral decision to hire Currie. Once again, our University has a buffoon as Chancellor. Let's just hope she doesn't eat her boogers during a News conference like our last Chancellor did.
 
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JonGrudensAgent said:
I'll say it again, no one forced Fulmer to put himself up for consideration except Fulmer.

If he is hurt or otherwise emotionally distressed over not getting the job then he should have gracefully declined from the get go.

If anyone should know how politicized and screwed up UTK is, then it should be Fulmer.

Personally find it hard to find much empathy for the man who said the school was nothing but "bricks and mortar" to him after he was rightfully fired and has spent much of the last decade playing Monday morning QB on the decisions made by the athletic department through the press.
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Damn. Alright buddy.
 
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#146
This is Knoxville - home of the good old boy network and crazy politics. The decision was made to give the new Chancellor the authority to make the hire and she did. No one can blame Davenport for this. DiPietro and the BOT mismanaged the PR, timeline, and decision making process from the beginning of Hart's announcement, but when did that group manage anything well? Why would this be different?

Fulmer should know better. Regardless of what he did or didn't do and Majors did or didn't do, he got his coaching job through the politics and same old network. He was then part of it for years only for the favor to be returned when he was fired. For him to expect it to go differently this time is silly. Fulmer and Majors obviously don't get along. There are still plenty of the old guard around that have always sided with Johnny, so despite Fulmer's championships, to them it was justice when he was fired. Those people are thrilled Fulmer wasn't hired.

As someone who works in politics in this town, though I'm a nobody, I've seen plenty of wrongs, rights, hurt, etc. It's the way it is. My guess is Davenport, the BOT, and President wanted an AD who had a backbone and would stand up to the network. It stinks that Fulmer was treated the way he was, but unless Davenport, DiPietro, or the Governor called him, it didn't count. We have too many people around here jockeying for power trying to be more important than they are instead of just trying to be supportive to the folks in charge. I'm not saying this is right or wrong, just pointing out how it is.

I'm sure Currie has made plenty of enemies, but you don't raise the kind of money he has in his career by being a total a** all the time. So maybe he just has a pair - good for him. Give the guy a chance.
 
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the new AD should give fulmer some sweet fundraising / ambassador job like spurrier has at florida. Pay him a couple of hundred thousand, a nice office, with some 5 star travel benefits and he'll be OK with the whole deal. Phil can travel the south, work the boosters for some big donations, and host big fundraising events on campus to generate more millions.
 
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Who is the idiot in the search committee that told Fulmer he would get the job? What a mess as usual with Tennessee. They mishandle everything in their reach. I wish the Haslams would take their money elsewhere- it is basically the university of whatever the Haslams want, and their decisions as of late, are horrible.
 
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TNnative said:
Since he was a member of the search committee? It seems a pertinent question.
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If Peyton had wanted Fulmer bad enough, they would have hired him. I think Peyton gave his blessing for Currie to be hired, and Peyton did not want to push a personal preference down others' throats. Maybe the search committee as a whole thought Currie was a stronger candidate. IMO
 
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Lovesomebigorange said:
Who is the idiot in the search committee that told Fulmer he would get the job? What a mess as usual with Tennessee. They mishandle everything in their reach. I wish the Haslams would take their money elsewhere- it is basically the university of whatever the Haslams want, and their decisions as of late, are horrible.
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You know not of what you speak. We very much need the Haslam money.
 
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