Is Florida Really a Better Job Than Tennessee?

[99gator]

Florida may be a better job, but I don't know if many coaches would want to coach there after the Jim McElwain situation.

1. Having to win the East every year gives you literally no margin of error as a coach.

2. How the AD at Florida essentially forced McElwain to take a smaller buyout is not a good look...especially after winning two East division titles.

3. In general, to be treated this way after winning two division titles just doesn't look good nationally.

Also, just because Florida fired their head coach first doesn't mean they get first pick. Look at LSU last year for example.

As a whole, I feel that if a coach had the choice between the relatively relaxed AD at TN or the tense, demanding AD at Florida, I would probably lean towards TN. Just my opinion though.

Every potential coach in America knows exactly why Mac is being terminated.

He was hired to fix the offense. It was one of the worst offenses in America when he arrived. It's been one of the worst offenses in America every season he has been coach.

Don't pretend like we don't know why he's been fired. And don't pretend like you've been watching Florida play and thought.....wow, they look really good. If they keep playing like this Mac will be there for 20 years.

There isn't a soul out there who, upon his dismissal, thought.....I'm shocked. They've been playing so well since he became the coach.

 

[Jeepkuntry]

Yes. More talent in the state. Not to mention better weather throughout the year. You think recruits don't think about the warm weather, women in bikini's on the beach?

 

[SanguineVol]

Yes. More talent in the state. Not to mention better weather throughout the year. You think recruits don't think about the warm weather, women in bikini's on the beach?

Might have already been mentioned earlier, but Miami can offer the warm weather and beach a few blocks off campus, as opposed to an hour or so drive. Only worth mentioning because Florida has to compete with FSU and Miami, and even USF, UCF, FIU, and FAU have a lot to offer recruits.

The recruiting base in the state of Tennessee is improving every year, and a coach could arguably field a solid team if he legitimately locked down the borders. A great team if he added elite talent from Georgia, North Carolina, and the like.

 

[VolFanNC09]

I think both are the same. If either gets a good coach they will be winners. I don’t see UF being any easier or better than UT. UF has FSU and Miami as national powers in their state to compete with, so I see no great recruiting advantage. CBJ recruited as well or better than UF recently. I think UFs Athletic Department has been better though.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Mac was mutually separated because Florida had buyer's remorse 4 months from the date an extension was signed, after winning back to back SEC East titles. Every potential candidate is well aware of what Florida appears to be attempting to be doing - trying like hell to get out of a binding agreement.

Mac isn't a different person than what they hired in 2015 nor is he different than 4 months ago when they agreed on an extension. Florida is just trying to make someone else pay for their bad decisions, or more like that is what appears is going on. (Since we don't know)

Let's be real here, he was basically gone after Michigan - everyone knows it. They spent most of the season trying to find a way to get rid of him.

 

[molsen81]

UF = University of Fugitives

UT = University of Tried and true excellence that has settled for mediocrity in both the coach and athletic director and is in need of a complete administrative overhaul at Knoxville

 

[mpfvol]

Nope !

 

[Hoosier_Vol]

I sing Rocky Top as much as anyone but you would have to be blind,deaf and stupid not to think UF is a better job these days than UT.

 

[rockydoc]

Yes

 

[MAUSERWERKE]

Yes, UF is a more attractive coaching job. First, you can recruit any player you need within a three hour drive of Gainesville. Second, the Gators don't play Alabama every year.

 

[Iam4utalways]

Every potential coach in America knows exactly why Mac is being terminated.

The way he handled the death threats from the Florida fans is why he got fired. It wasn't about wins and losses. Muschamp proved that 4-8 won't get a Florida coach fired.

 

[MWAVolfan]

If you are a good football coach then Florida is the better job.

If you are a second rate hack from the MAC looking to bilk a vulnerable power 5 program out of millions of dollars then Tennessee is the best job in the country.

 

[LittleVol]

We will see why Florida is a better job than Tennessee when they hire their top target Scott Frost and we will end up with our 6th target Jeff Brohm. Makes me sick.

Good tradeoff

Because Tennessee would be ideal for Brohm.

Frost is destined for Nebraska.
And he will turn them into a power at 7 mil a year...
They can afford that to.

 

[AM64]

How can we quantify "better".

I mean Missippii State could be argued as a better job than Florida.

Urban Meyer had to walk away from that place lol. With 2 NCs in 5 years. But the place was killing him slowly...

Mclwien got fired after getting to Atlanta his 1st 2 years.

Meanwhile Mullen is making 4 mil in Starkvile to create barely above .500 ball clubs.

Gators own the Vols on the field.
I mean...OWN.

But Gainesville is sad.

Tennessee has better history and present day culture imo...

And Knoxville isn't in FL. FL is the place where everybody is from somewhere else; it's not even part of the South any more. Not sure of I'd consider FL Cali east or NY/NJ south; but whatever it is, it isn't good. Some parts may still be decent, but others are gang and crime infested swamps.

 

[AM64]

Bottom line: We got another incompetent AD. Just a string of bad hires over the last 15 years or so. The athletic department simply isn't invested in winning. They may never be. Heck, if you keep selling out games and selling t-shirts, why change?

Should have hired Fulmer. Ex coaches know the business far better than bean counters, and make better ADs. Neyland, Woodruff, Dickey at TN and Battle at AL are all examples of that.

 

[johnrlansford]

And Knoxville isn't in FL. FL is the place where everybody is from somewhere else; it's not even part of the South any more. Not sure of I'd consider FL Cali east or NY/NJ south; but whatever it is, it isn't good. Some parts may still be decent, but others are gang and crime infested swamps.

Florida is a great job! easiest to recruit. Coaches will flock there

 

[GAVol]

Should have hired Fulmer. Ex coaches know the business far better than bean counters, and make better ADs. Neyland, Woodruff, Dickey at TN and Battle at AL are all examples of that.

Battle was hardly just an ex coach.

 

[vettefool]

I'm hearing media folks say that between Florida and Tennessee any coach would take Florida over Tennessee. One comment was that "it's easier to win a championship at Florida than it is at Tennessee. Really? Then why'd you hire Muschamp and McElwain if that were true? The recruiting area is about the only advantage Florida might have over Tennessee.

Yep, a better job. Probably one of top ten or fifteen college jobs.

 

[rowsdower]

Yes but only when it comes to surrounding talent and academics.

 

[Otis07]

Yes, Florida is a better job than Tennessee.

Resources and recruiting base aside, the relative success of our last several coaches are further proof.

OP mentioned Muschamp and McElwain, coaches who were fired in spite of a combined 6-1 record against Tennessee.

what resources???? SeaWorld, Disney? Hurricane readiness. It's better football job but no where else better. oops sorry forgot women's soccer

 

[99gator]

what resources???? SeaWorld, Disney? Hurricane readiness. It's better football job but no where else better. oops sorry forgot women's soccer

If you want to have a football job argument, fine.

If you want to have an argument about the entire athletic program, prepare to be embarrassed.

 

[AM64]

Battle was hardly just an ex coach.

That's true, but do you honestly believe that just anybody can get his foot in the door to sales like a well known ex football player or coach with stories to tell?

You see that's another part of the whole thing that an ex coach brings to the table when wooing coaches and donors. Bean counters can give them headaches and bore them to death with projections and how they saved a few dollars here and there.

 

[Rooster1]

I'm hearing media folks say that between Florida and Tennessee any coach would take Florida over Tennessee. One comment was that "it's easier to win a championship at Florida than it is at Tennessee. Really? Then why'd you hire Muschamp and McElwain if that were true? The recruiting area is about the only advantage Florida might have over Tennessee.

If you ask the top 5 desired coaches to pick between the UF or the UT job, I think 4 or 5 will pick UF. Its the recruiting advantages, plus the public perceptions (UF has more recent success and championships). You can perceive however you want, but the reality is 4 maybe 5 take the UF job.

 

[This Guy]

I would say both are top eight jobs in CFB, but when you look at the recruiting base UF has it's definitely an easier place to succeed in. Even if you're competing with Miami, FSU, etc. for recruits.

 

[salutethehill]

Yep, a better job. Probably one of top ten or fifteen college jobs.

Where the heck do you rank the TN job?

Florida has the edge on recruiting and the current head-to-head record because of the dingbats we've hired recently.

Every other category - history, fan base, all-time record, facilities, etc. - TN wins.

How old are some of y'all?