Is anyone else tired of Dooley's...

[volfan_48]

:lolabove:

Now that is funny. Kelley washington says hello, and that is just the first one that comes to mind. Fulmer and discipline do not go together.

Kelley taunted team members, not coaches and despite his attitude, showed up to Work!

Not the same situation but nice try!

 

[columbia vol]

I'll remember this post the next time you and your +1 hillbillies call Dooley out for throwing incomplete on fourth-and-short instead of running the ball.

This board exists for people to express their opinions. You can disagree all you want, but to act as though fans shouldn't express their opinion with a coach's decision, on the field or off, in a public forum is laughable. That is the reason forums like this exist.

You expressed your opinion,he expressed his that you should stfu,what's the problem?

 

[vol2013]

Kelley taunted team members, not coaches and despite his attitude, showed up to Work!

Not the same situation but nice try!

You might want to try a little thing called reading comprehension. Nowhere did I say that Rogers and Washington were the same thing. It would be dumb to say they were considering nobody really knows the details of what the situation with Darick was. However, you clearly said "Fulmer would bench someone with attitude" which is clearly not true.

 

[volfan_48]

You might want to try a little thing called reading comprehension. Nowhere did I say that Rogers and Washington were the same thing. It would be dumb to say they were considering nobody really knows the details of what the situation with Darick was. However, you clearly said "Fulmer would bench someone with attitude" which is clearly not true.

Ok, so let me clairify. Bench anyone with poor work ethic and attitude with coaching staff

 

[cncchris33]

Hell, just start a blog or get a media pass..Same difference..And resorting to the term "hillbillies" should help with your resume'..I stated facts, you stated an opinion..Own it or argue with facts instead of name calling and whining...


JMHFO

I've done nothing but own my opinion throughout this thread. You of course, wouldn't know that since you only needed to read the first couple pages to form your opinion. You can take the elitist attitude elsewhere. You didn't state any facts, other than saying Dooley does it his way. Revolutionary stuff there. Here's a novel idea, read through the entire thread before spouting off.

Like I said, I'll keep this thread in mind the next time you question someone in our athletic department.

 

[TnScooby]

...cryptic approach with the media? I want to like the guy. I really do, but with the circus-esque fiasco of Janzen Jackson last summer, and now with DaRick Rogers, his word-play with the media and his overall antagonistic approach is getting old. He won't say DaRick Rogers is suspended, but says that "he has some things to do before he can come back, and if he doesn't do them, he won't be here". Is that not the textbook definition of a suspension?[/QUOTE]

BTW, suspended would imply he is not a member of the team, saying "he has some things to do before he can come back, and if he doesn't do them, he won't be here" implies,IMO, that while still a member of the team he is not allowed "here" (a reference to the practice field)..But Gee, what would a hillbilly know anyway compared to your vastly superior opinionated knowledge...

BTW, the "textbook definition" of suspension:

1. The act of suspending or the condition of being suspended, especially:
a. A temporary abrogation or cessation, as of a law or rule.
b. A temporary debarment, as from school or a privilege, especially as a punishment.
c. A postponement, as of a judgment, opinion, or decision.
See Synonyms at pause.

Again, JMHFO

 

[TnScooby]

I've done nothing but own my opinion throughout this thread. You of course, wouldn't know that since you only needed to read the first couple pages to form your opinion. You can take the A)elitist attitude elsewhere. B) You didn't state any facts, other than saying Dooley does it his way. Revolutionary stuff there. C)Here's a novel idea, read through the entire thread before spouting off.Like I said, I'll keep this thread in mind the next time you question someone in our athletic department.

A)I never claimed to be an elitist (though your post might suggest you fit the bill)
B)I stated the Head Coach and Media Relations Director "handle " the media duties:FACT,
C)I responded to your post, not the entire thread, without just "spouting off"

P.S.-Please do keep this thread in mind because you are the only one "questioning someone in UT's(not your) Athletic Department........

JMHFO

 

[columbia vol]

...cryptic approach with the media? I want to like the guy. I really do, but with the circus-esque fiasco of Janzen Jackson last summer, and now with DaRick Rogers, his word-play with the media and his overall antagonistic approach is getting old. He won't say DaRick Rogers is suspended, but says that "he has some things to do before he can come back, and if he doesn't do them, he won't be here". Is that not the textbook definition of a suspension?[/QUOTE]

BTW, suspended would imply he is not a member of the team, saying "he has some things to do before he can come back, and if he doesn't do them, he won't be here" implies,IMO, that while still a member of the team he is not allowed "here" (a reference to the practice field)..But Gee, what would a hillbilly know anyway compared to your vastly superior opinionated knowledge...

BTW, the "textbook definition" of suspension:

1. The act of suspending or the condition of being suspended, especially:
a. A temporary abrogation or cessation, as of a law or rule.
b. A temporary debarment, as from school or a privilege, especially as a punishment.
c. A postponement, as of a judgment, opinion, or decision.
See Synonyms at pause.

Again, JMHFO

Bubba and his cousin/girlfriend says +wun

 

[rocky top buzz]

...cryptic approach with the media? I want to like the guy. I really do, but with the circus-esque fiasco of Janzen Jackson last summer, and now with DaRick Rogers, his word-play with the media and his overall antagonistic approach is getting old. He won't say DaRick Rogers is suspended, but says that "he has some things to do before he can come back, and if he doesn't do them, he won't be here". Is that not the textbook definition of a suspension?[/QUOTE]

BTW, suspended would imply he is not a member of the team, saying "he has some things to do before he can come back, and if he doesn't do them, he won't be here" implies,IMO, that while still a member of the team he is not allowed "here" (a reference to the practice field)..But Gee, what would a hillbilly know anyway compared to your vastly superior opinionated knowledge...

BTW, the "textbook definition" of suspension:

1. The act of suspending or the condition of being suspended, especially:
a. A temporary abrogation or cessation, as of a law or rule.
b. A temporary debarment, as from school or a privilege, especially as a punishment.
c. A postponement, as of a judgment, opinion, or decision.
See Synonyms at pause.

Again, JMHFO

I'm inclined to agree with the OP. Dooley could just say that the situation with Rogers is an internal issue and that he won't comment on it. Or he could say there is no issue at all. His response is confusing at best.

It's surprising to me that the Vols are going through what seems like the exact same situation as last year (Jackson) again this year. Having this type of turmoil with one of your top 5 playmakers each year isn't good for wins or recruiting. Not saying it's neccessatily Dooley's fault, just an observation.

 

[tomq_123]

...cryptic approach with the media? I want to like the guy. I really do, but with the circus-esque fiasco of Janzen Jackson last summer, and now with DaRick Rogers, his word-play with the media and his overall antagonistic approach is getting old. He won't say DaRick Rogers is suspended, but says that "he has some things to do before he can come back, and if he doesn't do them, he won't be here". Is that not the textbook definition of a suspension?

If I recall the timeline correctly, it was DR's cryptic tweets and subsequent VolNation threads that got to media to ask these questions in the first place. I would guess that CDD would rather not talk about this stuff to the media at all.

It's my belief that CDD really cares about his players and it trying to save them from themselves. He went above and beyond with JJ and that still didn't help. By handling things internally and trying to not air things in public he really is trying to make sure he does right by them. DR needs to realize, he can do what he needs to do have a great year next year and go in the 1st or 2nd round and hit the NFL lottery. Or he can transfer to Podunk U miss a year and maybe never make it to the NFL. Choice is his, time to grow up.

 

[berry4heisman77]

no keep the stuff in house and don't throw kids under the bus end of story.

...cryptic approach with the media? I want to like the guy. I really do, but with the circus-esque fiasco of Janzen Jackson last summer, and now with DaRick Rogers, his word-play with the media and his overall antagonistic approach is getting old. He won't say DaRick Rogers is suspended, but says that "he has some things to do before he can come back, and if he doesn't do them, he won't be here". Is that not the textbook definition of a suspension?

 

[cncchris33]

no keep the stuff in house and don't throw kids under the bus end of story.

I agree. He should have said "no comment", or laid it all out there. He did neither. He gave just enough info to create a media buzz, which in turn will only lead to more interest and more questioning. I wish he would have just said he had no idea what they were talking about when asked about it and moved on.

 

[Orange_Crush]

What bus? Dooley hasnt thrown anyone under the bus, he keeps protecting him. The truth is he lost control of him and cant get it back. Fulmer would bench someone with attitude and so did Kiffen and the players knew that. Dooley should only talk about the walk ons for a couple of weeks and stop pumping these guys heads up! Oh wait! He cant do that! He doesnt know their names!

Not directed at you, just (poorly) making a point to a certain segment of the population. CDD will be maligned for whatever he does.

There are countless posts which express:

"Anyone else tired of CDD doing nothing but making excuses and throwing the players under the bus?" He is too negative. He makes the players feel like crap about themselves. He needs to be more positive... Etc..."

There are others chiding him for mishandling the players by taking too much, being too positive, creating divas, etc...

No matter what he does, it won't be right in certain peoples' eyes.

 

[King Webbsticles]

Not directed at you, just (poorly) making a point to a certain segment of the population. CDD will be maligned for whatever he does.

There are countless posts which express:

"Anyone else tired of CDD doing nothing but making excuses and throwing the players under the bus?" He is too negative. He makes the players feel like crap about themselves. He needs to be more positive... Etc..."

There are others chiding him for mishandling the players by taking too much, being too positive, creating divas, etc...

No matter what he does, it won't be right in certain peoples' eyes.

I haven't seen any posts saying Dooley is too positive or that he creates divas. In Da'Rick's case, he was a Prima Donna in high school, which was very well known. That should have been stamped out in the first year, by someone. We are now entering the 3rd year and the Rogers/Dooley relationship is as unsteady as ever. It is becoming a distraction.

ETA: For the record, I think this situation is equally both Rogers and Dooley's fault. Rogers for being a selfish prick and Dooley for not stomping out this fire at the beginning.

 

[cncchris33]

If I recall the timeline correctly, it was DR's cryptic tweets and subsequent VolNation threads that got to media to ask these questions in the first place. I would guess that CDD would rather not talk about this stuff to the media at all.

It's my belief that CDD really cares about his players and it trying to save them from themselves. He went above and beyond with JJ and that still didn't help. By handling things internally and trying to not air things in public he really is trying to make sure he does right by them. DR needs to realize, he can do what he needs to do have a great year next year and go in the 1st or 2nd round and hit the NFL lottery. Or he can transfer to Podunk U miss a year and maybe never make it to the NFL. Choice is his, time to grow up.

I agree. DaRick'd tweets are the original source. I'd like to see Twitter banned altogether but at the sane time, these players are adults, and you'd like to think they can make responsible adult decisions.

The fact is, when approached, Dooley only clouded the situation further IMO.

 

[TennTom]

Dooley is just as bad as dramma queen as any of them,i bet we see a miget take the team out of the TEE in the first game this year.the dooley circus show...sigh

Still haven't gotten your one-day chip yet? Hang in there.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Dooley creates all of these problems by treating all the schollys like they are amazing before they even do anything, then gets upset when they are divas. Players should know, one unit, one team and no one is better than any other. Until he stops this, this same problem will continue!

I haven't seen any posts saying Dooley is too positive or that he creates divas. In Da'Rick's case, he was a Prima Donna in high school, which was very well known. That should have been stamped out in the first year, by someone. We are now entering the 3rd year and the Rogers/Dooley relationship is as unsteady as ever. It is becoming a distraction.

ETA: For the record, I think this situation is equally both Rogers and Dooley's fault. Rogers for being a selfish prick and Dooley for not stomping out this fire at the beginning.

Not sure how you could've missed it, considering that it was the post/quote that we were discussing.

 

[King Webbsticles]

Not sure how you could've missed it, considering that it was the post/quote that we were discussing.

Thanks. Although it still doesn't say he creates divas. DR was a diva in HS. Janzen Jackson was too.

Btw, I completely disagree with that post. Dooley doesn't think everyone is amazing, he just lacks the skill to deal with those kinds of players, IMO.

 

[kohlrums]

i know people will disagree with you, but i agree.

i will say it's not just dooley. the reason i feel they should be more open is that typically people begin to think the worst of the player involved (in this case rogers).

i understand keeping things in house, but it's not cool having all of this wild speculation running around either.

I guess you would like it better if he threatened a reporter Urban Meyer-style?

 

[Orange_Crush]

Thanks. Although it still doesn't say he creates divas. DR was a diva in HS. Janzen Jackson was too.

Btw, I completely disagree with that post. Dooley doesn't think everyone is amazing, he just lacks the skill to deal with those kinds of players, IMO.

Not to be argumentative, but... it says, "Dooley creates all of these problems by..."

I'm cool with the disagreement, btw... To each their own.

On-field results will be the final indicator. I'm reserving judgment until he's had the time to prove himself. Either he will prove himself to be the right guy, or he will have been given enough rope to hang himself.

:hi:

 

[DaddyChad]

I think he could have possibly dealt with the media better in the past and the present. Honestly though, I don't care how he deals with the media. He can be a media whore like Kiffin using it to earn recruits and take jabs at opponents, just use the PC coach speak that means nothing, or not issue statements at all. All I care about is whether the man wins or losses this year and if this team is competitive.