Iran

[LouderVol]

I consider slave labor concentration camps abhorrent enough and we knew that the NAZIs were using them by at least the end of 1941. Hundreds of thousands were dying in those camps.

and by the end of 1941 we were well and truly into the war.

if slave labor and hundreds of thousands of minorities dying we should have also invaded: The Soviet Union, France, Britain, Belgium, and probably a few others.

 

[BeardedVol]

Trump Says He Wants Iran’s Uranium Mostly for ‘Public Relations’

(Bloomberg) -- President Donald Trump said the US objective of recovering highly enriched uranium from Iran was “more for public relations than it is for anything else,” while reiterating his commitment to removing the nuclear material.Most Read from BloombergHormuz Oil Flows Creep Higher as...

finance.yahoo.com

 

[hog88]

and by the end of 1941 we were well and truly into the war.

if slave labor and hundreds of thousands of minorities dying we should have also invaded: The Soviet Union, France, Britain, Belgium, and probably a few others.

LOL

 

[Orangeburst]

Yeah that tweet is millennial bait.

It sure is..NYT and WaPo BS

CENTCOM Commander Dismisses Reports That Iran Retains Most Of Its Missile And Drone Arsenal (Updated)

Admiral Brad Cooper said that "the numbers that I've seen in open source are not accurate" as reports mount that most of Iran's arsenal is intact.

www.twz.com

 

[CobbVol]

 

[General Jack]

Well, approval rating of POTUS and whether or not we are "winning the war" are two totally different conversations.

I'm no fan of this continued war, but I'll reserve judgment until the outcome is decided. If the Iranian populace can gather enough stones to overthrow the regime, their nuclear program is dismantled, and the strait is ultimately under a more secure position, it will be a decided victory. I'm not convinced that at least two of those are likely.

Having decimated the Iranian air and sea powers, maybe the surrounding countries will step up and finish this thing. That could lead to a more stable ME in the long run.

The cited polling includes public perceptions on the war, which are heavily unfavorable and hastening trump's rapidly declining stature, which in turn is impacting his ability to dictate the outcome of this war without the public will to continue.

This war won't end with a ceremony on the USS Missouri like WWII. It will end when trump figures out a way to save face and run from the mess he unnecessarily created.

The war was ill-conceived from the beginning Air wars don't change regimes, never have, never will.

Our stated goals have evolved from regime change and the trump admin appears to have settled on disarming Iran's nuclear ambitions - but trump himself bragged that we obliterated Iran's nuclear capability last year, so that doesn't resonate.

As to Iran's military capability: "Likewise, the Trump administration’s public insistence that Iran’s missile capability is all but obliterated was thrown into doubt following assessments from the intelligence community that Iran still has roughly 70 percent of its mobile launchers and 70 percent of its prewar missile stockpile — first reported by The New York Times on Tuesday."

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5877148-us-iran-war-munitions-stockpiles/

 

[General Jack]

Wrong. Return to gaming.

Swing and a miss, chasing one high and outside.

 

[theFallGuy]

Kataib Hezbollah Commander Accused of Planning Attacks on N.Y.C. - The New York Times https://share.google/rsT8m3f2Kw24QG76c

 

[theFallGuy]

Probably giving a speech at Berkeley soon

 

[KB5252]

Our constantly rotating system of government plus our tribal politics prevent the US from playing the long game. A dictatorship will always have that advantage over a democracy.

Also, our people are soft and demand instant gratification. We couldn't win a WWII today with our citizenry, if it wasn't over in 3 months we would be rioting in the streets due to rationing.

I don't disagree

 

[KB5252]

Yeah by being booted from South America and the ME, makes sense. They are flailing. It is over we won, you lost, and you are wrong. Deal with it.

China hasn't been booted from South America, they've list since recent ground to the US but only after we ignored strategic partnership opportunities there.

China is still firmly rooted in South America.

America appears to be flailing. So much so that we counting on China to help us secure an open Persian Gulf.

How did I lose and you win considering we're both American? Either way I nor most other Americans feel like I'm winning. I'm worse off today than I was 2 or 3 years ago.

 

[EasternVol]

You people are really mentally ill. Are you saying that we bullied Japan in WWII. I hope I am misunderstanding you, if not I hope your sterile. Jumped Up Judas Priest.

You misunderstand about everything else so it's no surprise you misunderstand that.

 

[85SugarVol]

I’ve actually been to Dachau. That’s where a significant number of my family members were last known to be. The murder (working to death of Jews) stated in 38/39. But to your earlier point, nobody knew it was happening till after the war. Earlier involvement would likely not change much

I too have been to Dachau, visited when we were living in The Hague. Powerful place.

The British were receiving reports of what the Einsatzgruppen were doing on the Eastern front in ‘41. We knew.